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Post by ematz1423 on May 18, 2024 15:16:25 GMT -5
Theyre FAs after this season for them to be assets in future years at this point it would take market value offers for them. I'm not saying I wouldn't want to pay them but it also makes sense to trade them if they're not making a playoff run too. If you listened to some of TON's comments on the "310 to Left" podcast it doesn't sound like he would be difficult to sign. I would really like signing O’Neill for like 3-4 years. He would really fit the roster for that especially if/when Anthony is ready. 4 years maybe 60MM? I wouldn't go any higher than that. Breslow should approach him to see.
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Post by Guidas on May 18, 2024 15:55:33 GMT -5
Have I mentioned lately how much I hate losing to sub-.500 teams?
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Post by Guidas on May 18, 2024 16:08:35 GMT -5
Maybe because they might be able to help us next year. Or the year after. Neither are that old. Another poster says we need to find some good right handed bats. O'Neil is a right handed bat who has had some success in the past and earlier this year. Pivetta is a decent starter. I would try and resign both. At some point, you have to stop selling assets that can be part of your future or else your future will never get here.. If you think Jansen and Martin are too old to help next year, I have no problem in trading them. But I want them to keep all the players that can help us next year and add to them. Aside from the point that they're free agents, I don't really see Pivetta as anyone you'd desperately need to lock up. The Red Sox will be able to spend on Burnes or Fried if they want to. Or if Henry's still being a skinflint they can shell out for whichever mid-tier starter Breslow/Bailey think they can work the most wonders with, which may or may not be Pivetta himself. They are saving up for Soto (ducks). I wonder if Breslow will trade some of the prospect wealth for a controllable 1/2 or even 2/3. Mayer/Teel/Anthony are probably off-limits, but there's some big upside pieces who are still far enough from MLB where a lot of POBOs can dream on them.
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Post by rhswanzey on May 18, 2024 16:16:44 GMT -5
It feels like we’re five or six out - we’re 2.5 games out. That’s nothing significant. Heck, look at how quickly Houston has salvaged their season.
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Post by incandenza on May 18, 2024 16:18:13 GMT -5
Aside from the point that they're free agents, I don't really see Pivetta as anyone you'd desperately need to lock up. The Red Sox will be able to spend on Burnes or Fried if they want to. Or if Henry's still being a skinflint they can shell out for whichever mid-tier starter Breslow/Bailey think they can work the most wonders with, which may or may not be Pivetta himself. They are saving up for Soto (ducks). I wonder if Breslow will trade some of the prospect wealth for a controllable 1/2 or even 2/3. Mayer/Teel/Anthony are probably off-limits, but there's some big upside pieces who are still far enough from MLB where a lot of POBOs can dream on them. We went through this last offseason. Bloom and then Breslow seemed to have big ideas about landing a controllable #1 starter through trade without touching the top prospect troika and then it turned out that you can't get a #1 starter without giving up a top prospect.
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Post by shagworthy on May 18, 2024 17:05:35 GMT -5
More than anything else I can’t tell you how annoying I find the Yankees leading the AL east is.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on May 18, 2024 17:26:22 GMT -5
Why would you not trade O'Neill and Pivetta? Maybe because they might be able to help us next year. Or the year after. Neither are that old. Another poster says we need to find some good right handed bats. O'Neil is a right handed bat who has had some success in the past and earlier this year. Pivetta is a decent starter. I would try and resign both. At some point, you have to stop selling assets that can be part of your future or else your future will never get here.. If you think Jansen and Martin are too old to help next year, I have no problem in trading them. But I want them to keep all the players that can help us next year and add to them. Theres nothing that says the Sox can't sign them in the offseason. There is almost no downside to dealing them.
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Post by wildsox on May 18, 2024 18:28:06 GMT -5
Raffy could have 100 RBI already with all the runners he’s had on base
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Post by grandsalami on May 18, 2024 18:29:02 GMT -5
Oh look. Another sox squander. First time that has happened in 12 hours
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Post by kevfc89 on May 18, 2024 18:43:18 GMT -5
how slow is grissom
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Post by bosoxnation on May 18, 2024 18:50:07 GMT -5
Raffy could have 100 RBI already with all the runners he’s had on base But with no one on base he hits bombs....
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Post by bosoxnation on May 18, 2024 18:52:40 GMT -5
6-9 hitters have to be the worst in baseball. Smith, Grissom, Hamilton, Rafaela. I cant take it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by kevfc89 on May 18, 2024 19:02:33 GMT -5
6-9 hitters have to be the worst in baseball. Smith, Grissom, Hamilton, Rafaela. I cant take it!!!!!!!!!!!! Even if Kavadas does nothing it should be more interesting to watch than Smith every game.
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Post by notstarboard on May 18, 2024 19:06:07 GMT -5
WTF is Grissom doing. Either charge hard and take it, or get out of the way.
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Post by radiohix on May 18, 2024 19:06:17 GMT -5
Yeah that was my first thought lol With that foot speed, can he be a viable OFer if the 2nd base experience doesn't pan out?
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Post by cheers on May 18, 2024 19:06:20 GMT -5
The stank of our fielding is relentless.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 18, 2024 19:07:23 GMT -5
I’m sorry, that was Grissom’s play seeing how unreliable Hamilton is. I want him off this team so bad.
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Post by radiohix on May 18, 2024 19:08:00 GMT -5
Yeah that was my first thought lol With that foot speed, can he be a viable OFer if the 2nd base experience doesn't pan out? And as I wrote this he f*** up an out lol
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Post by notstarboard on May 18, 2024 19:11:51 GMT -5
I’m sorry, that was Grissom’s play seeing how unreliable Hamilton is. I want him off this team so bad. The reliability of the fielder doesn't dictate whose ball it is. It was to the second-base side of the bag, but Grissom's momentum would have been away from the bag, while Hamilton's was going right towards the bag. It's not much different than a third baseman cutting across the SS because their angle is better and they're closer if they can get there first.
Hamilton isn't an everyday SS, but he's fine as a utility guy. I hope he stays up.
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Post by wildsox on May 18, 2024 19:16:14 GMT -5
Shoulda done that in the first Raffy
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Post by julyanmorley on May 18, 2024 19:16:39 GMT -5
Extend Devers
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Post by cheers on May 18, 2024 19:17:11 GMT -5
Raffy just flicked that out to dead center. Impressive.
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Post by radiohix on May 18, 2024 19:17:49 GMT -5
I don't understand why teams just don't throw Devers just fastballs in the upper part of plate. I'm not complaining mind you 😅
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Post by scottysmalls on May 18, 2024 19:23:08 GMT -5
Cora simply cannot have Dom Smith on the roster. What is the possible reason for playing him every day. He has no platoon advantage because he can’t hit righties either.
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Post by entrylevelhitman on May 18, 2024 19:25:44 GMT -5
I don't understand why teams just don't throw Devers just fastballs in the upper part of plate. I'm not complaining mind you 😅 Houston did that a year or two ago. I remember it (take that for what it's worth) as him being hitless the whole series, seeing nothing but fastballs the whole time.
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