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Post by rhswanzey on May 25, 2024 20:10:58 GMT -5
Tyler Murray (Woo Sox play-by-play) was in there with Will today and was highly complimentary of Rafaela’s 9th inning AB. Looking at the Gameday app, he goes fishing on Megill’s hook low and away, but lays off same to bring it to 1-1. He then fouls 99mph on the hands and 100 on the outer half, before managing to cover a perfectly dotted low/away hook and dunk it into shallow left center.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 25, 2024 20:58:22 GMT -5
This game’s almost an hour old, and the Red Sox still haven’t batted around. The fan double ump show was 45 minutes of it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 26, 2024 8:26:06 GMT -5
Another year of being monkey in the middle, which really gets them nowhere. What a waste. It’s still early (but now that it’s Memorial Day Weekend, it’s not THAT early)… but the only team that currently stands between the Red Sox and a playoff spot is the Twins, 2.5 games up. The AL is not great this year so far. The whole AL West has been mediocre (although the Astros are climbing…), the Rays aren’t the same team without Wander Franco, and the Blue Jays might not be far from firing everyone. In some years, being monkey in the middle is enough! At some point a team will make the playoffs, in a full season (so that I'm excluding 1981 and 2020), with a record under .500, so why not the Red Sox if that happens? Lol. I get that the league is top heavier this year. I'm afraid the Yankees are legit as they have thrived without Cole unexpectedly and with Soto's addition, have the best offense in the AL. Baltimore is for real. Somebody has to win the AL West. I think Cleveland and KC playing above their heads and will regress, although one takes the central division or one or both get caught by Minnesota or even Detroit. Yes, 2 wild card spots are there for the taking. I do expect Houston and Texas will be squarely in the mix. But as a Red Sox fan who expects more from the franchise than a .500ish club yet again for what appears the 5th time in 6 years, it's disappointing. I thought the rotation would be bad and instead it's been excellent, so how is it they're still just a .500 team on the outside looking in yet again? Its like watching the same movie over and over and over again. I miss those days when the expectation was they'd win 90 plus with a goal of 95 wins and having the cache of being a heavyweight rather than just being another team. I know they're working toward that again but it kind of boggles the mind how this is what they've turned into for this long. I guess this is a bit how Yankees fans felt during the Horace Clarke era, lol. I'm experiencing the same feeling with the Patriots, too, hoping that Drake Maye leads them back to the promised land (and no I dont expect him to be anything like Brady, as that would totally be totally unfair) Thankfully the Celtics appear primed to win it all or at least that is certainly the impression they're giving. I'm feeling like it's just their time, finally.
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Post by asm18 on May 26, 2024 9:52:06 GMT -5
“ The Boston Red Sox plan to trade All-Star veteran closer Kenley Jansen by the trade deadline. He’s earning $16 million this year and the Red Sox have no interest in bringing him back.” - Bob Nightengale today
I don’t mean to get the hopes up of the many folks around here who hate Kenley beyond reason… but Craig Breslow speaks to the media like 7 seconds a month, and does so in incredibly vague terms. Are we really to believe he blatantly told Bob that they are trading him?
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Post by cdj on May 26, 2024 10:03:12 GMT -5
“ The Boston Red Sox plan to trade All-Star veteran closer Kenley Jansen by the trade deadline. He’s earning $16 million this year and the Red Sox have no interest in bringing him back.” - Bob Nightengale today I don’t mean to get the hopes up of the many folks around here who hate Kenley beyond reason… but Craig Breslow speaks to the media like 7 seconds a month, and does so in incredibly vague terms. Are we really to believe he blatantly told Bob that they are trading him? Doesn’t necessarily have to be Craig. Could be somebody else in the front office. Could be Kenley’s agent.
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Post by asm18 on May 26, 2024 10:12:14 GMT -5
“ The Boston Red Sox plan to trade All-Star veteran closer Kenley Jansen by the trade deadline. He’s earning $16 million this year and the Red Sox have no interest in bringing him back.” - Bob Nightengale today I don’t mean to get the hopes up of the many folks around here who hate Kenley beyond reason… but Craig Breslow speaks to the media like 7 seconds a month, and does so in incredibly vague terms. Are we really to believe he blatantly told Bob that they are trading him? Doesn’t necessarily have to be Craig. Could be somebody else in the front office. Could be Kenley’s agent. Could be. I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if he’s moved - but I don’t know how they would be certain about what they’re doing at the deadline at this point, right? Like for all we know a month from now they overtake the Twins for the last wild card spot.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 26, 2024 10:16:50 GMT -5
If they can get anything of value for Jansen they should trade him regardless of their playoff position. Though I think if they could’ve gotten anything of value for him in the offseason they would’ve traded him so I’m suspicious of his market value.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 26, 2024 10:19:10 GMT -5
One nice thing about this regime is I'm going to really be able to talk myself into whatever bundle of #18 ranked pitching prospects they bring in at the deadline
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 26, 2024 10:32:40 GMT -5
Doesn’t necessarily have to be Craig. Could be somebody else in the front office. Could be Kenley’s agent. Could be. I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if he’s moved - but I don’t know how they would be certain about what they’re doing at the deadline at this point, right? Like for all we know a month from now they overtake the Twins for the last wild card spot. They keep doing what they're doing theyll be trading Kenley. Nothing shocking about that. As close as they are to Minnesota they're that close to Toronto and the AL East basement. If the Sox get hot and put themselves squarely in the wild care spot theyll probably hang onto Kenley unless they're overwhelmed in a deal. Not exactly an earth shattering opinion by Nightengale that Kenley is likely to be dealt with the assumption that the Sox arent really going anywhere anyways.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 26, 2024 11:12:35 GMT -5
D.H. Cooper is one of several minor leaguers to hijack this lineup.
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Post by kwodes on May 26, 2024 11:52:06 GMT -5
Could be. I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if he’s moved - but I don’t know how they would be certain about what they’re doing at the deadline at this point, right? Like for all we know a month from now they overtake the Twins for the last wild card spot. They keep doing what they're doing theyll be trading Kenley. Nothing shocking about that. As close as they are to Minnesota they're that close to Toronto and the AL East basement. If the Sox get hot and put themselves squarely in the wild care spot theyll probably hang onto Kenley unless they're overwhelmed in a deal. Not exactly an earth shattering opinion by Nightengale that Kenley is likely to be dealt with the assumption that the Sox arent really going anywhere anyways. in my mind, TON, Jansen and Martin are all gone by August 1st. Pivetta, I'd make some legitimate extension offers to, but if he doesn't accept, I'd trade him too. In the mindset of "consolidating assets", I'd try and trade Jansen and Martin together (AND eat all of their salary) to someone like the Os for Basallo or something like that.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on May 26, 2024 12:17:47 GMT -5
They keep doing what they're doing theyll be trading Kenley. Nothing shocking about that. As close as they are to Minnesota they're that close to Toronto and the AL East basement. If the Sox get hot and put themselves squarely in the wild care spot theyll probably hang onto Kenley unless they're overwhelmed in a deal. Not exactly an earth shattering opinion by Nightengale that Kenley is likely to be dealt with the assumption that the Sox arent really going anywhere anyways. in my mind, TON, Jansen and Martin are all gone by August 1st. Pivetta, I'd make some legitimate extension offers to, but if he doesn't accept, I'd trade him too. In the mindset of "consolidating assets", I'd try and trade Jansen and Martin together (AND eat all of their salary) to someone like the Os for Basallo or something like that. I would trade Tyler, Pivetta, Martin and Jansen. They have a lot of money available to spend and can get either Soto or Burnes
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Post by incandenza on May 26, 2024 12:24:17 GMT -5
They keep doing what they're doing theyll be trading Kenley. Nothing shocking about that. As close as they are to Minnesota they're that close to Toronto and the AL East basement. If the Sox get hot and put themselves squarely in the wild care spot theyll probably hang onto Kenley unless they're overwhelmed in a deal. Not exactly an earth shattering opinion by Nightengale that Kenley is likely to be dealt with the assumption that the Sox arent really going anywhere anyways. in my mind, TON, Jansen and Martin are all gone by August 1st. Pivetta, I'd make some legitimate extension offers to, but if he doesn't accept, I'd trade him too. In the mindset of "consolidating assets", I'd try and trade Jansen and Martin together (AND eat all of their salary) to someone like the Os for Basallo or something like that. I think the logic of a Pivetta extension has evaporated. As it is they have Houck, Crawford, Bello, and Giolito for four rotation spots, with Whitlock, Fitts, and Criswell for depth. So they really have room to add just one starter.
The situation where Pivetta might have been that guy would be one where he was healthy and effective for the full 2024 season; after his strong finish to 2023 you might then have thought he had turned a corner and become a solid #2 or better. But a third of the way through the season he's missed time with injury and his ERA/xERA/FIP are all over 4. With some very solid FA starting pitcher options available and the Red Sox easily able to spend there's no reason to lock themselves into Pivetta before the bidding even starts. Even if they decide Pivetta is the guy they really want they can just go out and win the bidding for him as a free agent.
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Post by cdj on May 26, 2024 12:39:25 GMT -5
Confident Hamilton might be able to play a little SS after all
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Post by cdj on May 26, 2024 12:40:30 GMT -5
Robots
Edit: oh boy hopefully not one of those games
Sun must be extra brutal today
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Post by cdj on May 26, 2024 12:57:08 GMT -5
I’ll put the team on my back and carry this thread to 10 pages by myself
Houck is disgusting, he went from no 3rd pitch to throwing his splitter as an out pitch against RHH
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Post by incandenza on May 26, 2024 13:17:30 GMT -5
Hamilton is the new Duran.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 26, 2024 13:20:12 GMT -5
dont know that I advocate Hamiton for long term bench guy, though it appears that may be a successful role, but if he continues to play well, I think some playoff team would have interest enought to get a decent returm.
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Post by incandenza on May 26, 2024 13:26:28 GMT -5
That Abreu catch was either one of the best awful plays or the worst great plays I've ever seen.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 26, 2024 13:30:24 GMT -5
cant hit it much farther in this park. love that section of Fenway, original.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 26, 2024 13:31:11 GMT -5
dude, swing at a strike.
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Post by incandenza on May 26, 2024 13:31:20 GMT -5
Uh oh, runner on 3rd with one out. K incoming.
edit: I never wanted a player to swing on 3-0 so much with Dom on deck and Devers did not disappoint.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 26, 2024 13:32:54 GMT -5
take it, but if you arent throwing his strikes, why do you put it down the middle on 3-0
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Post by incandenza on May 26, 2024 13:35:56 GMT -5
take it, but if you arent throwing his strikes, why do you put it down the middle on 3-0 Yeah I am so not trying to fight my way back against Devers in that situation. Just intentionally walk him at that point with Smith and McGuire due up.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 26, 2024 13:48:40 GMT -5
Gotta have it Blue !!
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