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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 1, 2024 16:02:07 GMT -5
Come on Fenway Sports Group!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 1, 2024 16:46:40 GMT -5
Come on Fenway Sports Group! A streamline of 1st round picks, trading guys before they hit that 2nd contract and having that infinite pipeline of guys. Efficient and cost effective! Oh and LeBron would be part owner of the Celtics.
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Post by jmei on Jul 1, 2024 16:57:51 GMT -5
Here's a bonkers estimate for their potential luxury tax payment in 2025-26 - they'd owe as much in luxury tax as they're paying for salary ($200M+). They'd hopefully be paying that tax for a true title contender, and they could duck under the tax the following year (when Porzingis' deal rolls off), but that's still a monster tax bill to swallow.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 1, 2024 16:58:33 GMT -5
Tatum just agreed to extend
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Post by cdj on Jul 1, 2024 17:38:46 GMT -5
Richest contract in nba history for now. Well deserved young king
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 1, 2024 19:06:05 GMT -5
Tillman coming back too. Seems like the Celtics are truly going to run it back.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 1, 2024 19:32:49 GMT -5
Tillman coming back too. Seems like the Celtics are truly going to run it back. Tillman isn’t back… i hope he is eventually but there’s nothing yet
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 1, 2024 19:43:14 GMT -5
Looks like I was duped by a fake account. Didn’t think that’d be one they’d fake.
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Post by jmei on Jul 1, 2024 19:46:42 GMT -5
Here's the actual announcement press release. Very carefully worded to suggest that Wyc and his father are driving the process. I wonder if Pags and some of the minority owners will look to buy the whole team. …and here’s Pags confirming that he’ll be a bidder. He’d be a great majority owner.
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Post by cdj on Jul 1, 2024 21:02:45 GMT -5
Here's the actual announcement press release. Very carefully worded to suggest that Wyc and his father are driving the process. I wonder if Pags and some of the minority owners will look to buy the whole team. …and here’s Pags confirming that he’ll be a bidder. He’d be a great majority owner. Best case scenario tbh
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 2, 2024 15:33:49 GMT -5
I've already read the part of extensions and the media has talked about it at length. Big difference in new CBA was going from 120% to 140%. It's literally why people talked about declining his option and using his bird right as a free agent. Now all that talk is dead wrong or a few writers are dead wrong. I'm almost positive there's no loophole, but I've been wrong before. When I get a free day I do need to study up on the luxury tax.
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Post by cdj on Jul 2, 2024 15:57:43 GMT -5
2 year deal to return for Tillman
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 2, 2024 16:20:51 GMT -5
2 year deal to return for Tillman Huge get, Tilman was bad last season but he has some good upside and has shown enough in his career. This is a much better investment than their other options. I BELIEVE they could clear the second apron if they deal Fast PP and Springer, but if you deal Fast PP then who’s the sixth man? The Porzingod is injured until like Christmas.
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Post by capesox on Jul 2, 2024 16:55:51 GMT -5
I never thought they would get almost everyone back. I hope the new ownership has plenty of spare billions so they can go with the luxury tax issues this team will have going forward. Only Brissett and Svi potentially leaving with maybe Scheierman and Jordan Walsh picking up there minutes seems fine. If guys like Queta, Tillman, and Springer can make strides next year and get used to the Celtics system, they will be in great shape.
I hope they don't want to trade PP or Springer, that would leave the backcourt barren after the starters, and we know Holiday is going to need rest next year after long season and USA basketball. Pritchard especially I think is going to be very important for next year.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 2, 2024 17:44:53 GMT -5
They aren’t clearing the second apron, it’s not even on their radar to do.
Love having Tillman back. Team is officially done except for 2 way signings. They will leave the roster spot open.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 2, 2024 19:10:13 GMT -5
Kinda wild to be done so early into the offseason. Looking at what other teams are doing and listening to their fans reminds me how lucky we are.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 2, 2024 21:39:29 GMT -5
Getting Kornet and Tillman back on minimum contracts was not something I expected and X for 2 years.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 3, 2024 4:12:01 GMT -5
New owners could be a good thing, but it's tricky. The path this team is going down is going to be crazy expensive. They will have to be darn good for any owner to keep paying that amount of money. As RJP said, look at the Clippers with a crazy rich owner. Thing with Clippers is bad results and an aging roster.
Hearing rumors of Casino owners and building a new Stadium because Celtics don't own it. I'm game as long as the new stadium doesn't take you an hour plus to go a few hundred yards after the game is over! Not an easy task in Boston. The article points out maximizing profits.
If you aren't signing Watson to a regular contract, I'm getting another PF. I don't see the value in not filling it given the new buyout rules. Nevermind as you've seen players will take a discount to go for a championship. No rush, but a certain PF we lost did play some key minutes.
They aren't trading Pritchard and Springer to get under, not this year. Anything is in play going forward.
I really hate the Warriors. That tax bill is crazy and it's not even that far over 2nd level.
Teams seem to want to copy the Celtics and I understand that. Thing is that's almost impossible to do quickly. They might have been too young and not ready, but copying the Pacers seems like an easier blueprint. Team basketball, high octane non stop offense and compete on D. We might have swept the Pacers and no Porzingis, but that might have been the best team we faced in the playoffs. Key being best team and it's why the Celtics won finally, they played team Basketball. Basically the opposite of the way the Mavs and a lot of the NBA plays. Why the Heat were always so good in playoffs for years, good passing is the best way to beat a good defense.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 3, 2024 5:41:51 GMT -5
New owners could be a good thing, but it's tricky. The path this team is going down is going to be crazy expensive. They will have to be darn good for any owner to keep paying that amount of money. As RJP said, look at the Clippers with a crazy rich owner. Thing with Clippers is bad results and an aging roster. Hearing rumors of Casino owners and building a new Stadium because Celtics don't own it. I'm game as long as the new stadium doesn't take you an hour plus to go a few hundred yards after the game is over! Not an easy task in Boston. The article points out maximizing profits. If you aren't signing Watson to a regular contract, I'm getting another PF. I don't see the value in not filling it given the new buyout rules. Nevermind as you've seen players will take a discount to go for a championship. No rush, but a certain PF we lost did play some key minutes. They aren't trading Pritchard and Springer to get under, not this year. Anything is in play going forward. I really hate the Warriors. That tax bill is crazy and it's not even that far over 2nd level. Teams seem to want to copy the Celtics and I understand that. Thing is that's almost impossible to do quickly. They might have been too young and not ready, but copying the Pacers seems like an easier blueprint. Team basketball, high octane non stop offense and compete on D. We might have swept the Pacers and no Porzingis, but that might have been the best team we faced in the playoffs. Key being best team and it's why the Celtics won finally, they played team Basketball. Basically the opposite of the way the Mavs and a lot of the NBA plays. Why the Heat were always so good in playoffs for years, good passing is the best way to beat a good defense. I think it’s fair to say that in general it makes sense for an ownership group to not pay crazy tax bills for teams that aren’t legit high end contenders. I expect any ownership group to make moves to get under the apron(s) in that case. If they are a team like the Celtics you should be running it back for as long as they are this good or you shouldn’t be an owner. Our high high end title window is at least the next 2 years then we beee to see if any one has stepped up to replace Al, what Porzingis looks like and has given us and where Jrue is at. Change is coming, the fact we get 2 straight years without it is a major anomaly and I’m just going to enjoy it.
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Post by trotman on Jul 3, 2024 8:48:21 GMT -5
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Post by philarhody on Jul 3, 2024 11:11:03 GMT -5
I’m coming to grips with losing one or both of Jrue and/or Derrick White past next season. I feel like Wyc ordered a 5 star dinner, we all enjoyed the meal, and then he went missing when the check came.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 3, 2024 13:20:08 GMT -5
It's why I go after a Kessler Edwards, even if it's a two way contract. Queta could be huge and Stevens signing him long-term was brilliant. Scheierman really matters, like way more than average fans realize. Walsh and Watson could really matter. Springer could be the next defensive monster at guard.
Trader Stevens now needs to also add major draft and development program to his resume. While also being trader Stevens. It's why I was so upset at passing on Kevin McCullar Jr, he's an improved 3 point shot away from being a two way force. Not surprising the Knicks traded for him. Now let's hope Watson is a brilliant pick. It's how you keep depth, keep the team together longer and don't end up like the Suns going through different veteran minimum guys every year.
Why I'm assuming Watson gets 2-way contract and then a 4 year deal next year. Maximizing cheap control years. Stevens has been brilliant besides not doing that with Walsh. The 3 two way spaces are crazy important and why they moved on from Davison. If you don't see future NBA player to help Celtics, move on to the next guy.
I think a big help could be Horford sticking around for years and taking another big paycut. Porzingis might also fit that formula going forward if he keeps getting injured. Players will do a lot of things to keep winning championships. We are going to need that!
Buy RJP is 100% right, let's enjoy next year because that is really going to shape our future. Let's also hope our new owner gives us years of paying big taxes in the Honeymoon period after buying the team like the Clippers got.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 3, 2024 15:30:22 GMT -5
It's why I go after a Kessler Edwards, even if it's a two way contract. Queta could be huge and Stevens signing him long-term was brilliant. Scheierman really matters, like way more than average fans realize. Walsh and Watson could really matter. Springer could be the next defensive monster at guard. Trader Stevens now needs to also add major draft and development program to his resume. While also being trader Stevens. It's why I was so upset at passing on Kevin McCullar Jr, he's an improved 3 point shot away from being a two way force. Not surprising the Knicks traded for him. Now let's hope Watson is a brilliant pick. It's how you keep depth, keep the team together longer and don't end up like the Suns going through different veteran minimum guys every year. Why I'm assuming Watson gets 2-way contract and then a 4 year deal next year. Maximizing cheap control years. Stevens has been brilliant besides not doing that with Walsh. The 3 two way spaces are crazy important and why they moved on from Davison. If you don't see future NBA player to help Celtics, move on to the next guy. I think a big help could be Horford sticking around for years and taking another big paycut. Porzingis might also fit that formula going forward if he keeps getting injured. Players will do a lot of things to keep winning championships. We are going to need that! Buy RJP is 100% right, let's enjoy next year because that is really going to shape our future. Let's also hope our new owner gives us years of paying big taxes in the Honeymoon period after buying the team like the Clippers got.You certainly can't take anything for granted but I would really have to hope that anyone buying the Celtics right now would be okay with paying the big tax bills while they are in their competitive window. How long that window truly is with the new NBA cap rules who knows. That being said imagine if the next owner is some penny pincher who comes in and immediately starts a tear down to get under the LT apron. He would get ripped to shreds by the fans and media, perhaps on a scale not seen in Boston before which would be saying something.
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Post by cdj on Jul 3, 2024 15:53:28 GMT -5
It's why I go after a Kessler Edwards, even if it's a two way contract. Queta could be huge and Stevens signing him long-term was brilliant. Scheierman really matters, like way more than average fans realize. Walsh and Watson could really matter. Springer could be the next defensive monster at guard. Trader Stevens now needs to also add major draft and development program to his resume. While also being trader Stevens. It's why I was so upset at passing on Kevin McCullar Jr, he's an improved 3 point shot away from being a two way force. Not surprising the Knicks traded for him. Now let's hope Watson is a brilliant pick. It's how you keep depth, keep the team together longer and don't end up like the Suns going through different veteran minimum guys every year. Why I'm assuming Watson gets 2-way contract and then a 4 year deal next year. Maximizing cheap control years. Stevens has been brilliant besides not doing that with Walsh. The 3 two way spaces are crazy important and why they moved on from Davison. If you don't see future NBA player to help Celtics, move on to the next guy. I think a big help could be Horford sticking around for years and taking another big paycut. Porzingis might also fit that formula going forward if he keeps getting injured. Players will do a lot of things to keep winning championships. We are going to need that! Buy RJP is 100% right, let's enjoy next year because that is really going to shape our future. Let's also hope our new owner gives us years of paying big taxes in the Honeymoon period after buying the team like the Clippers got. one two way
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Post by cdj on Jul 3, 2024 15:54:25 GMT -5
This caught my attention
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