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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 26, 2024 22:22:44 GMT -5
Scheierman is just a safer pick in my book than Filipowski. Filipowski did this to himself only working out for top 20 teams.
Like I said before Scheierman speed and agility tests are equal to Whites. So there's likely defensive upside there also. Not uncommon for top scorers in College to not play 100% on D.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 26, 2024 22:41:04 GMT -5
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 26, 2024 22:54:27 GMT -5
Another German sniper from the midwest to follow Hauser? Lol. Sounds good to me.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 27, 2024 5:49:52 GMT -5
I would have signed up for this from the start of the draft so Im happy about that but i was secretly hoping for Filipowski so that stung a bit.
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Post by jmei on Jun 27, 2024 9:17:22 GMT -5
Couple scattered thoughts:
- Aesthetically, I love a sweet lefty jump shot. I also think there's some basketball benefit, too - most defenders' muscle memory is to close out to the right hand, so a lefty shot might give you a millisecond more time to get a shot off (sort of like Belichick's preference for left-footed punters).
- Scheierman's game is more Pritchard than Hauser - he made a living on pull-up/step-back threes (though he did great on catch and shoots, too). He's a better ballhandler and passer than Hauser, and is more able to score inside the arc, which gives him a higher ceiling (can be more than a role player). With that said, Hauser's real superpower is his ability to hold up on defense (and bait teams into trying to iso him up) - Scheierman will need to be able to at least do the same.
- There was a lot of discussion about how, given how good their rotation is, it'd be tough for a rookie to get real playing time and how they might want to punt the pick into the future. I think that is kind of backwards. Their championship window is open right now, and I love the idea of taking an older, NBA-ready player who is ready for real minutes immediately. Rotations can get real thin real fast, and having a guy who can fill in in case of injury or just play real regular season minutes to give their front-end rotation guys more opportunities for rest is huge, especially given the way that the second apron is going to limit their other team-building tools starting this year and going forward.
- Filipowski would have been a nice pick too, but it's easier to find a rotation big man than a rotation wing as a minimum salary free agent, so I like the direction they went in.
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Post by nomar on Jun 27, 2024 9:49:42 GMT -5
Edwards or Ingram would be nice upside picks if they make it to 54 tonight.
I also wouldn’t mind Shead. I think he’s going to be a good defensive guard and seems like the type who will hustle his way into sticking around.
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Post by jmei on Jun 27, 2024 10:01:44 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 27, 2024 10:20:21 GMT -5
Couple scattered thoughts: - Aesthetically, I love a sweet lefty jump shot. I also think there's some basketball benefit, too - most defenders' muscle memory is to close out to the right hand, so a lefty shot might give you a millisecond more time to get a shot off (sort of like Belichick's preference for left-footed punters). - Scheierman's game is more Pritchard than Hauser - he made a living on pull-up/step-back threes (though he did great on catch and shoots, too). He's a better ballhandler and passer than Hauser, and is more able to score inside the arc, which gives him a higher ceiling (can be more than a role player). With that said, Hauser's real superpower is his ability to hold up on defense (and bait teams into trying to iso him up) - Scheierman will need to be able to at least do the same. - There was a lot of discussion about how, given how good their rotation is, it'd be tough for a rookie to get real playing time and how they might want to punt the pick into the future. I think that is kind of backwards. Their championship window is open right now, and I love the idea of taking an older, NBA-ready player who is ready for real minutes immediately. Rotations can get real thin real fast, and having a guy who can fill in in case of injury or just play real regular season minutes to give their front-end rotation guys more opportunities for rest is huge, especially given the way that the second apron is going to limit their other team-building tools starting this year and going forward. - Filipowski would have been a nice pick too, but it's easier to find a rotation big man than a rotation wing as a minimum salary free agent, so I like the direction they went in. Baylor is a good pick and roll player too. You mentioned his playmaking but he also shot 56% from three out of pick and rolls last year on good volume. Feel free to fact check it as I’m taking the word of the Ringer on that stat.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 27, 2024 10:22:08 GMT -5
I think the main thing about potentially trading back was assuming there wouldn’t be a guy like him available at 30 to take. Last thing they want is a guaranteed salary for a long project.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 27, 2024 11:25:47 GMT -5
If you really want Filipowski the Celtics have two 2nd in 2025 and 2026 that are both likely high picks from the Sasser trade down last year. You might be able to trade up for him. Tatum on X talking about him, teams will regret passing on him.
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Post by nomar on Jun 27, 2024 11:33:52 GMT -5
If you really want Filipowski the Celtics have two 2nd in 2025 and 2026 that are both likely high picks from the Sasser trade down last year. You might be able to trade up for him. Tatum on X talking about him, teams will regret passing on him. Filipowski won’t be able to defend NBA centers and shot 31.4% from 3 at Duke. I don’t want to give up higher second rounders in deeper drafts for him personally. Seems like everyone here loves him, but I don’t really see it at the next level. This kid is interesting
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 27, 2024 11:47:43 GMT -5
I'm not saying I'd do it, just pointing out they maybe could. He did shoot basically 35% from deep last year. So I do believe in his shot and offensive game overall. He'll never be elite on D, but it just depends how good he becomes. He needs to add strength. Celtics do have a good recent track record of getting guys to really up their D levels.
I do wonder if Queta play last year might be a reason not to go after a true center. His numbers in 33 games per 36 minutes are unreal.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 27, 2024 12:06:51 GMT -5
I'm not saying I'd do it, just pointing out they maybe could. He did shoot basically 35% from deep last year. So I do believe in his shot and offensive game overall. He'll never be elite on D, but it just depends how good he becomes. He needs to add strength. Celtics do have a good recent track record of getting guys to really up their D levels. I do wonder if Queta play last year might be a reason not to go after a true center. His numbers in 33 games per 36 minutes are unreal. Good point. People seem to have relegated Queta to the heap in favor of a shiny new toy. I hope they keep him and work him in next year. Give Horford a few more games off and let Queta do his thing defensively.
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Post by cdj on Jun 27, 2024 13:07:11 GMT -5
If you really want Filipowski the Celtics have two 2nd in 2025 and 2026 that are both likely high picks from the Sasser trade down last year. You might be able to trade up for him. Tatum on X talking about him, teams will regret passing on him. Filipowski won’t be able to defend NBA centers and shot 31.4% from 3 at Duke. I don’t want to give up higher second rounders in deeper drafts for him personally. Seems like everyone here loves him, but I don’t really see it at the next level. This kid is interesting Probably a longer term project but reminds me of Siakam. Needs to learn how to shoot.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 27, 2024 14:01:27 GMT -5
I'm not saying I'd do it, just pointing out they maybe could. He did shoot basically 35% from deep last year. So I do believe in his shot and offensive game overall. He'll never be elite on D, but it just depends how good he becomes. He needs to add strength. Celtics do have a good recent track record of getting guys to really up their D levels. I do wonder if Queta play last year might be a reason not to go after a true center. His numbers in 33 games per 36 minutes are unreal. Good point. People seem to have relegated Queta to the heap in favor of a shiny new toy. I hope they keep him and work him in next year. Give Horford a few more games off and let Queta do his thing defensively. Queta should be your 4th Center at this point still. This team needs to work on finding a long term center replacement for Horford. Right now Tillman is the best bet so I really hope they can extend him reasonably. If they could do a Pritchard deal with him; I’d be excited.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 27, 2024 15:03:12 GMT -5
Filipowski won’t be able to defend NBA centers and shot 31.4% from 3 at Duke. I don’t want to give up higher second rounders in deeper drafts for him personally. Seems like everyone here loves him, but I don’t really see it at the next level. This kid is interesting Probably a longer term project but reminds me of Siakam. Needs to learn how to shoot. What reminds you of Siakam? I'd say Kenneth Farried that can dribble. Want a crazier take, Draymond Green that can't shoot without his big mouth lol.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 27, 2024 15:05:49 GMT -5
Good point. People seem to have relegated Queta to the heap in favor of a shiny new toy. I hope they keep him and work him in next year. Give Horford a few more games off and let Queta do his thing defensively. Queta should be your 4th Center at this point still. This team needs to work on finding a long term center replacement for Horford. Right now Tillman is the best bet so I really hope they can extend him reasonably. If they could do a Pritchard deal with him; I’d be excited. Really? I'd give him a one year small deal until I see him healthy. I loved the guy, but he didn't look good last year for us.
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Post by cdj on Jun 27, 2024 15:07:12 GMT -5
Probably a longer term project but reminds me of Siakam. Needs to learn how to shoot. What reminds you of Siakam? I'd say Kenneth Farried that can dribble. Want a crazier take, Draymond Green that can't shoot without his big mouth lol. Size, length, ability to create, STOCK king, shitty jumper in college lol…although I will say Siakam didn’t start creating until he got into the league
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Post by cdj on Jun 27, 2024 15:39:11 GMT -5
Woah
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 27, 2024 15:45:22 GMT -5
That explains a lot
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 27, 2024 16:12:18 GMT -5
Jalen Bridges just seems like a Celtic…
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 27, 2024 16:14:23 GMT -5
Queta should be your 4th Center at this point still. This team needs to work on finding a long term center replacement for Horford. Right now Tillman is the best bet so I really hope they can extend him reasonably. If they could do a Pritchard deal with him; I’d be excited. Really? I'd give him a one year small deal until I see him healthy. I loved the guy, but he didn't look good last year for us. Yea, I’d make that bet. He was coming off an injury and I feel he proved enough in Memphis and even flashes in playoffs. A one year deal could cost you dearly. Worst case scenario you have to dump a relatively small contract. Calculated risk.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 27, 2024 16:21:33 GMT -5
Jalen Bridges just seems like a Celtic… Enrique Freeman, if he can add weight watchout. As it it, he's a Brissett replacement.
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Post by philarhody on Jun 27, 2024 16:26:33 GMT -5
Jalen Bridges just seems like a Celtic… Enrique Freeman, if he can add weight watchout. As it it, he's a Brissett replacement. Umass, I love Freeman for the Celtics. I wouldn’t have been that upset if he was the pick at 30.
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Post by philarhody on Jun 27, 2024 16:31:11 GMT -5
Also like Chomche. Great, raw athlete.
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