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5/30-6/2 Red Sox vs. Tigers Series Thread
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Post by pappyman99 on Jun 2, 2024 11:43:55 GMT -5
Thinking out loud, are there any big time stars likely to be on the trade market soon? Top three names I could come up with are Tucker, Paredes, Gore. Red Sox might be in a position with the outfield where they should consolidate some assets. Three young guys in MLB controlled for a while all look like starters, at least two very good prospects. There are upcoming free agent names that are interesting in Soto, Kim, Burnes, etc. They have some salary room, combine a big signing and a good trade and the team could be looking real strong for 2025. I don’t see Gore being available at all, first the Lerners actually have money so the nationals are not the royals, they can and will sign guys I think the only deadline deals that make sense are Probably not popular opinions here. We have to at the very least listen on Pivetta, O’Neil, Martin, and Jansen. And you move them in the the right deals I’d definitely see if anyone has the appetite to trade for Yoshida, especially if there is no contract eating. I would add to this team through what’s is a becoming a good problem but a huge 40 man roster crunch but with names or packages of names that are attractive Names like Lugo, Kavadas, Meidroth, Gonzalez, Hamilton, Sogard, Valdez, Jordan, Yorke, Hickey, etc (obviously not all but we need to trim this list) If we are in it someone like Christian Walker makes a lot of sense to me to deal from that 40 man roster list. Productive right handed bat, expiring contract at a non premium position, so shouldn’t be overly costly Probably a perfect deadline for me is Trading Yoshida and Jansen away and trading for Walker (using like Yorke and Hickey) It is June someone should probably make a deadline thread soon as we are 60 days or less from the deadline
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 2, 2024 11:56:29 GMT -5
Thinking out loud, are there any big time stars likely to be on the trade market soon? Top three names I could come up with are Tucker, Paredes, Gore. Red Sox might be in a position with the outfield where they should consolidate some assets. Three young guys in MLB controlled for a while all look like starters, at least two very good prospects. There are upcoming free agent names that are interesting in Soto, Kim, Burnes, etc. They have some salary room, combine a big signing and a good trade and the team could be looking real strong for 2025. I don’t see Gore being available at all, first the Lerners actually have money so the nationals are not the royals, they can and will sign guys I think the only deadline deals that make sense are Probably not popular opinions here. We have to at the very least listen on Pivetta, O’Neil, Martin, and Jansen. And you move them in the the right deals I’d definitely see if anyone has the appetite to trade for Yoshida, especially if there is no contract eating. I would add to this team through what’s is a becoming a good problem but a huge 40 man roster crunch but with names or packages of names that are attractive Names like Lugo, Kavadas, Meidroth, Gonzalez, Hamilton, Sogard, Valdez, Jordan, Yorke, Hickey, etc (obviously not all but we need to trim this list) If we are in it someone like Christian Walker makes a lot of sense to me to deal from that 40 man roster list. Productive right handed bat, expiring contract at a non premium position, so shouldn’t be overly costly Probably a perfect deadline for me is Trading Yoshida and Jansen away and trading for Walker (using like Yorke and Hickey) It is June someone should probably make a deadline thread soon as we are 60 days or less from the deadline I don't disagree with anything you said but just to be clear my point wasn't at all about optimizing this year's team or the deadline. Just that we have a possible surplus of good talent at at least one position, but a lack of major stars. My question is how to consolidate assets to get a bigger star, if there's one available, on a cursory search there aren't a lot of obvious options for that guy. Tucker is interesting, if the Astros stay bad maybe they ponder blowing it all up, though I kinda doubt it. Another option might be attaching prospect capital to get off of Story and Yoshida's contracts which might make it possible to get multiple big FAs (maybe they want to go after Soto+), but I'm not wild about that plan.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jun 2, 2024 12:30:36 GMT -5
I don’t see Gore being available at all, first the Lerners actually have money so the nationals are not the royals, they can and will sign guys I think the only deadline deals that make sense are Probably not popular opinions here. We have to at the very least listen on Pivetta, O’Neil, Martin, and Jansen. And you move them in the the right deals I’d definitely see if anyone has the appetite to trade for Yoshida, especially if there is no contract eating. I would add to this team through what’s is a becoming a good problem but a huge 40 man roster crunch but with names or packages of names that are attractive Names like Lugo, Kavadas, Meidroth, Gonzalez, Hamilton, Sogard, Valdez, Jordan, Yorke, Hickey, etc (obviously not all but we need to trim this list) If we are in it someone like Christian Walker makes a lot of sense to me to deal from that 40 man roster list. Productive right handed bat, expiring contract at a non premium position, so shouldn’t be overly costly Probably a perfect deadline for me is Trading Yoshida and Jansen away and trading for Walker (using like Yorke and Hickey) It is June someone should probably make a deadline thread soon as we are 60 days or less from the deadline I don't disagree with anything you said but just to be clear my point wasn't at all about optimizing this year's team or the deadline. Just that we have a possible surplus of good talent at at least one position, but a lack of major stars. My question is how to consolidate assets to get a bigger star, if there's one available, on a cursory search there aren't a lot of obvious options for that guy. Tucker is interesting, if the Astros stay bad maybe they ponder blowing it all up, though I kinda doubt it. Another option might be attaching prospect capital to get off of Story and Yoshida's contracts which might make it possible to get multiple big FAs (maybe they want to go after Soto+), but I'm not wild about that plan. Agreed and I think at this point, roster fit, contract, and being more tradeable (I think). I believe Yoshida would be the best one to attach a low to mid tier prospect for a trade away. I think Story is less tradeable but also more of a fit for us. I’m all for Soto, an extremely safe investment as far as large contracts go
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 2, 2024 12:43:26 GMT -5
Nice. Only 10 pitches. Good start
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 2, 2024 12:43:44 GMT -5
still unconvinced about hamilton's SS defense
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Post by incandenza on Jun 2, 2024 12:45:07 GMT -5
If you really think Yoshida is *that* much of a burden, just release him; no need to give away prospects for the privilege. It's not like his salary is forcing them up against the luxury tax as it is.
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Post by cdj on Jun 2, 2024 12:45:28 GMT -5
still unconvinced about hamilton's SS defense I’m not convinced he’s good there but he’s definitely a lot better than “unplayable”, which is what I initially thought
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Post by cdj on Jun 2, 2024 12:47:28 GMT -5
Mize has the reverse splits due to the changeup I imagine. Last I saw him it was his best pitch (I guess it’s classified as a splitter)
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Post by cdj on Jun 2, 2024 12:49:43 GMT -5
I love wilyer
111.8 on that double
Has Mize always thrown 98??
Edit: just checked and nope, Mize’s velo is up 2 ticks this year
Warm weather EnManny!!!
Good job making Mize throw 30
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 2, 2024 13:02:16 GMT -5
Bello looks sharp and efficient.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 2, 2024 13:03:56 GMT -5
Javier Baez is a hilarious hitter
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 2, 2024 13:07:35 GMT -5
We'll be into the Tiger's pen early.
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Post by cdj on Jun 2, 2024 13:09:36 GMT -5
speed kills
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 2, 2024 13:10:01 GMT -5
how is that conclusive???
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Post by cdj on Jun 2, 2024 13:22:54 GMT -5
Dom chugging around get that man some oxygen
Raffffffffy 3 Bags
EnManny’s outs are even stung
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Post by cheers on Jun 2, 2024 13:26:08 GMT -5
When Dom was rounding third, I had a brief Willie Stargell flashback.
He is not fast.
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Post by brendan98 on Jun 2, 2024 13:28:30 GMT -5
I’d be happy to never have to see Garrett Cooper play in a Red Sox uniform again.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 2, 2024 13:30:44 GMT -5
Tigers announcers/cameras caught Devers being really lackadaisical on that fly ball; he turned to talk to the third base coach while walking back to third while the ball was in the air. If he goes through the regular motions and threatens a tag up, he would have been able to react to the drop and easily score.
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Post by cheers on Jun 2, 2024 13:32:53 GMT -5
I’d be happy to never have to see Garrett Cooper play in a Red Sox uniform again. Particularly at DH. With Bobby up, certainly don't need his glove at 1st. Redundant, at best.
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Post by soxin8 on Jun 2, 2024 13:40:08 GMT -5
Tigers announcers/cameras caught Devers being really lackadaisical on that fly ball; he turned to talk to the third base coach while walking back to third while the ball was in the air. If he goes through the regular motions and starts his tag, he would have been able to react to the drop and easily score. I think Carlos Pena and his partner are very good. He shared a lot of Boston memories yesterday.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 2, 2024 13:41:31 GMT -5
it seems weird to me, but Duran's offensive numbers seem kind of pedestrian. Doesn't square with what seems to have been an excellent season so far.
And that CS doesn't bother me at all.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 2, 2024 13:44:30 GMT -5
That was sneakily almost another epic Rafaela play, but he couldn't make a good throw.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 2, 2024 13:47:59 GMT -5
The team has some guys with great speed, but overall they've been better at using it to create havoc in ways other than successfully stealing bases.
Meanwhile, the game feels like it should be 6-0 but now we're in some trouble.
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Post by cdj on Jun 2, 2024 13:48:44 GMT -5
Not impressed by McGuire’s receiving the last couple days
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Post by keninten on Jun 2, 2024 13:55:14 GMT -5
Glad Bello is under 70 pitches.
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