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Post by incandenza on Jul 30, 2024 15:21:15 GMT -5
Erceg cost the Royals #11 and #16 prospects in a bad system. I would have been okay beating that. To go by fangraphs ratings the equivalent would be like Wikelman Gonzalez and Allan Castro or something? For a 29 year old reliever, albeit one with 5+ years of control... That would be a pass for me
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 30, 2024 15:21:21 GMT -5
DeJong was basically free. Another righty infielder we didn't want
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Post by cdj on Jul 30, 2024 15:23:53 GMT -5
Erceg cost the Royals #11 and #16 prospects in a bad system. I would have been okay beating that. To go by fangraphs ratings the equivalent would be like Wikelman Gonzalez and Allan Castro or something? For a 29 year old reliever, albeit one with 5+ years of control... That would be a pass for me He’s 29 but he’s doesn’t have much mileage on his arm, he’s a 3B convert. I would do that deal tbh
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 30, 2024 15:24:48 GMT -5
Erceg cost the Royals #11 and #16 prospects in a bad system. I would have been okay beating that. To go by fangraphs ratings the equivalent would be like Wikelman Gonzalez and Allan Castro or something? For a 29 year old reliever, albeit one with 5+ years of control... That would be a pass for me Think I would've preferred that to the Sims deal
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Post by incandenza on Jul 30, 2024 15:25:31 GMT -5
To go by fangraphs ratings the equivalent would be like Wikelman Gonzalez and Allan Castro or something? For a 29 year old reliever, albeit one with 5+ years of control... That would be a pass for me He’s 29 but he’s doesn’t have much mileage on his arm, he’s a 3B convert. I would do that deal tbh As a person who has lived through his 30s, I am here to say that, arm mileage or no, the river of time sweeps us all out so sea regardless.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 30, 2024 15:26:20 GMT -5
Wikelman doesn't have any trade value. Something like Fitts and Dobbins would have been pretty close imo.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 30, 2024 15:27:41 GMT -5
DeJong was basically free. Another righty infielder we didn't want Meanwhile, Grissom is rehabbing and Meidroth is sitting there with a .440 OBP in 400+ PAs in triple-A. I'm not sure why they ever would have been interested in trading for a righty middle infielder anyway.
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Post by cdj on Jul 30, 2024 15:27:50 GMT -5
Twins getting Trevor Richards from the jays
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Post by incandenza on Jul 30, 2024 15:29:06 GMT -5
Wikelman doesn't have any trade value. Something like Fitts and Dobbins would have been pretty close imo. I might have thought Castro and Dobbins? Fitts for Erceg woulda been craaaaazy.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 15:29:39 GMT -5
Padres acquiring Tanner Scott.
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Post by bojacksoxfan on Jul 30, 2024 15:29:43 GMT -5
BA with a nice trade tracker putting the breaks on the so-called high prices at the deadline. linkOf course, the big prizes like Crochet have not been traded yet. But to date - no top 100 prospects have been traded. I think the average is 3-4 per deadline. The only list 3 guys in the 100-150 range (Augustin Ramirez, Connor Norby, Jake Bloss) 12 guys in the 150-500 range. No Sox. 20 guys in the 500-1250 range. That's Yorke and Paulino. Portis and Bolivar are in the "worth a flyer category". So far only 15 prospects better than the 500th best prospect in baseball. If you are crying about those guys, maybe that says more about your prospect hugging ways than the actual value of these players to teams that are, you know, trying to win games more than look good on year end prospect lists. I'm pretty sure it's true that the median result for a prospect traded at the deadline is zero future value.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 30, 2024 15:31:17 GMT -5
Padres acquiring Tanner Scott. They are going for the super bullpen approach huh?
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Post by cdj on Jul 30, 2024 15:34:19 GMT -5
Padres acquiring Tanner Scott. There AJ is
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 30, 2024 15:35:01 GMT -5
Wikelman doesn't have any trade value. Something like Fitts and Dobbins would have been pretty close imo. I might have thought Castro and Dobbins? Fitts for Erceg woulda been craaaaazy. Fitts' arrow is pointing downwards in a major way I'm afraid
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 30, 2024 15:36:13 GMT -5
BA with a nice trade tracker putting the breaks on the so-called high prices at the deadline. linkOf course, the big prizes like Crochet have not been traded yet. But to date - no top 100 prospects have been traded. I think the average is 3-4 per deadline. The only list 3 guys in the 100-150 range (Augustin Ramirez, Connor Norby, Jake Bloss) 12 guys in the 150-500 range. No Sox. 20 guys in the 500-1250 range. That's Yorke and Paulino. Portis and Bolivar are in the "worth a flyer category". So far only 15 prospects better than the 500th best prospect in baseball. If you are crying about those guys, maybe that says more about your prospect hugging ways than the actual value of these players to teams that are, you know, trying to win games more than look good on year end prospect lists. I'm pretty sure it's true that the median result for a prospect traded at the deadline is zero future value. I thought the Phillies gave up 2 top 30 guys for a half season of a closer?
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Post by pappyman99 on Jul 30, 2024 15:38:19 GMT -5
Well we did stuff… maybe we aren’t done. I appreciate we have reinforcements coming off injury but I feel like everyone right around us in the standings can either say the same or have made bigger moves
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 15:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 30, 2024 15:39:28 GMT -5
The package includes the Padres #3, #4, #6, and #29 prospects according to BA.
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Post by rickasadoorian on Jul 30, 2024 15:39:41 GMT -5
BA with a nice trade tracker putting the breaks on the so-called high prices at the deadline. linkOf course, the big prizes like Crochet have not been traded yet. But to date - no top 100 prospects have been traded. I think the average is 3-4 per deadline. The only list 3 guys in the 100-150 range (Augustin Ramirez, Connor Norby, Jake Bloss) 12 guys in the 150-500 range. No Sox. 20 guys in the 500-1250 range. That's Yorke and Paulino. Portis and Bolivar are in the "worth a flyer category". So far only 15 prospects better than the 500th best prospect in baseball. If you are crying about those guys, maybe that says more about your prospect hugging ways than the actual value of these players to teams that are, you know, trying to win games more than look good on year end prospect lists. I'm pretty sure it's true that the median result for a prospect traded at the deadline is zero future value. I thought the Phillies gave up 2 top 30 guys for a half season of a closer? And? 30 x 30 is 900. Unless they were in the top 15-20, it's still true.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 30, 2024 15:39:55 GMT -5
I might have thought Castro and Dobbins? Fitts for Erceg woulda been craaaaazy. Fitts' arrow is pointing downwards in a major way I'm afraid Call me crazy, but I would have considered Fitts for Erceg, but would balk if it was Dobbins for Erceg.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 30, 2024 15:40:41 GMT -5
Yikes that seems a steep price to pay for Scott.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 30, 2024 15:40:57 GMT -5
The package includes the Padres #3, #4, #6, and #29 prospects according to BA. Preller is the most obvious amphetamine addict of all time.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 30, 2024 15:41:01 GMT -5
would've been okay if they traded Kenley for this
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 30, 2024 15:41:20 GMT -5
AJ playing the hits one last time
Gonna miss him
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Post by ixnayexxus on Jul 30, 2024 15:41:54 GMT -5
Padres trade their farm (sans Salas and De Vries) for Scott, Hoeing, and Adam; they'd better take advantage of this small window
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