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Who will get bumped when some healthy players return?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 17, 2024 12:55:20 GMT -5
Pitching - Chris Martin should be back soon, Isaiah Campbell healthy and pitching well, Winck pitching well, and Mata is rehabbing at Portland.
Zack Kelly has to stay - so Booser, Anderson and/or Keller expendable? Doesn't Mata have to be on the ML team due to lack of options?
Position players - Grissom rehabbing soon I suspect - Abreu as well - and Gonzalez ready.
Time to say goodbye to Dom Smith? Bobby D? Westbrook?
Fill ins have done well - but the squeeze is about to hit.
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Post by costpet on Jun 17, 2024 14:23:26 GMT -5
Dalbec a strike out machine. Over 50% rate. I imagine he’s the one.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 17, 2024 15:23:10 GMT -5
Romy - Westbrook Abreu - Dalbec Casas - Don Smith
Martin - Kellar
Grissom - Probably Valdez
If we get a starter, preferably LHP. Playoff bound.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 17, 2024 15:34:28 GMT -5
Romy - Westbrook Abreu - Dalbec Casas - Don Smith Martin - Kellar Grissom - Probably Valdez If we get a starter, preferably LHP. Playoff bound. I agree with this except that I think depending on how Valdez is playing Grissom might stay in AAA.
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Post by itinerantherb on Jun 17, 2024 15:36:47 GMT -5
That all sounds right except for Valdez, who's just hitting too well (an absurd 1.217 in 41 June PAs) to send him down for someone who struggled as badly as Grissom did. If they fall out of the race and still see Grissom as the long-term 2B, I could see it. But as long as they're in the hunt, I think they'll stick with the guy who's clearly helping the team win games.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 17, 2024 15:50:21 GMT -5
Westbrook optioned for Romy.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jun 17, 2024 15:56:34 GMT -5
Pitching - Chris Martin should be back soon, Isaiah Campbell healthy and pitching well, Winck pitching well, and Mata is rehabbing at Portland. Zack Kelly has to stay - so Booser, Anderson and/or Keller expendable? Doesn't Mata have to be on the ML team due to lack of options? Position players - Grissom rehabbing soon I suspect - Abreu as well - and Gonzalez ready. Time to say goodbye to Dom Smith? Bobby D? Westbrook?Fill ins have done well - but the squeeze is about to hit. Those are the 3 to go. Sadly, Dalbec survived todays cut. I just don't get it.
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Post by chaimtime on Jun 17, 2024 18:15:01 GMT -5
At this point it seems unlikely Bobby D will ever be able to hit major league pitching with any consistency, but he’s turned himself into a solid defender at multiple positions and somehow has 86th percentile sprint speed this year. Ideally they find an improvement for that righty bench corner infielder roster slot next year, but for now it’s understandable that they’d prefer someone who has late-game situational value to someone who might project as a better (but still below average) hitter while providing none of the other positives Dalbec does.
As an example, there’s no doubt in my mind that Niko Kavadas would have gotten a shot by now if he could do the stuff Dalbec can, but since all his value is tied up in his bat and his struggles with swing and miss in general, and spin in particular, suggest that he will struggle against big league pitching, it’s gonna be tough for him to get the call over Dalbec.
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Post by soxinsf on Jun 17, 2024 18:33:58 GMT -5
At this point it seems unlikely Bobby D will ever be able to hit major league pitching with any consistency, but he’s turned himself into a solid defender at multiple positions and somehow has 86th percentile sprint speed this year. Ideally they find an improvement for that righty bench corner infielder roster slot next year, but for now it’s understandable that they’d prefer someone who has late-game situational value to someone who might project as a better (but still below average) hitter while providing none of the other positives Dalbec does. As an example, there’s no doubt in my mind that Niko Kavadas would have gotten a shot by now if he could do the stuff Dalbec can, but since all his value is tied up in his bat and his struggles with swing and miss in general, and spin in particular, suggest that he will struggle against big league pitching, it’s gonna be tough for him to get the call over Dalbec. You have to wonder if Nick Yorke could fill the Dalbec role at some point. Bobby does so many pieces of the Swiss Army knife job except hit. Could be Romy in that role as the roster gets crowded. If so, Bobby is gone once Abreu is back. And on cue, Bobby K’s against a lefty pitcher.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 17, 2024 21:15:51 GMT -5
Is keller gone tmrw for martin??
Eventually is it one of mata keller or anderson Would keller or anderson clear waivers?
Abrau and casas pretty much has to be dom and Bobby Who backs up 1rst. Ref? Romy( played 1rst in rehab)
I cant see Grissom called up until hes hitting, but it would be nice to have the RH bat. Does Yorke get a chance ?
Is Wink next up in line if need a starter?
Unfortunately there will probably be more injuries or poor play. Hopefully its limited.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 17, 2024 22:25:10 GMT -5
Pitching - Chris Martin should be back soon, Isaiah Campbell healthy and pitching well, Winck pitching well, and Mata is rehabbing at Portland. Zack Kelly has to stay - so Booser, Anderson and/or Keller expendable? Doesn't Mata have to be on the ML team due to lack of options? Position players - Grissom rehabbing soon I suspect - Abreu as well - and Gonzalez ready. Time to say goodbye to Dom Smith? Bobby D? Westbrook?Fill ins have done well - but the squeeze is about to hit. Those are the 3 to go. Sadly, Dalbec survived todays cut. I just don't get it. Gonzalez took the roster spot of the guy whose job he's taking as well. It's that simple. Edit to delete post-Cs stupidity.
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Post by notstarboard on Jun 17, 2024 22:42:27 GMT -5
At this point it seems unlikely Bobby D will ever be able to hit major league pitching with any consistency, but he’s turned himself into a solid defender at multiple positions and somehow has 86th percentile sprint speed this year. Ideally they find an improvement for that righty bench corner infielder roster slot next year, but for now it’s understandable that they’d prefer someone who has late-game situational value to someone who might project as a better (but still below average) hitter while providing none of the other positives Dalbec does. As an example, there’s no doubt in my mind that Niko Kavadas would have gotten a shot by now if he could do the stuff Dalbec can, but since all his value is tied up in his bat and his struggles with swing and miss in general, and spin in particular, suggest that he will struggle against big league pitching, it’s gonna be tough for him to get the call over Dalbec. There is almost zero positional value as a late game defensive sub for corner infield only. You are not going to sit Devers for Dalbec for a likely slight glove upgrade. That makes him a RHP glove-first 1B who strikes out more than half of the time. He has speed, yes, but is not a base-stealing threat, which limits his utility... He is a waste of a roster spot and has been this entire season. Like, Romy Gonzalez has 90th percentile sprint speed, the same solid defense at 1B, a non-black-hole RHH bat, and he can mix in anywhere on the field defensively. What does Dalbec offer that Romy doesn't?
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Post by chaimtime on Jun 17, 2024 22:47:16 GMT -5
At this point it seems unlikely Bobby D will ever be able to hit major league pitching with any consistency, but he’s turned himself into a solid defender at multiple positions and somehow has 86th percentile sprint speed this year. Ideally they find an improvement for that righty bench corner infielder roster slot next year, but for now it’s understandable that they’d prefer someone who has late-game situational value to someone who might project as a better (but still below average) hitter while providing none of the other positives Dalbec does. As an example, there’s no doubt in my mind that Niko Kavadas would have gotten a shot by now if he could do the stuff Dalbec can, but since all his value is tied up in his bat and his struggles with swing and miss in general, and spin in particular, suggest that he will struggle against big league pitching, it’s gonna be tough for him to get the call over Dalbec. There is almost zero positional value as a late game defensive sub for corner infield only. You are not going to sit Devers for Dalbec for a likely slight glove upgrade. That makes him a RHP glove-first 1B who strikes out more than half of the time. He has speed, yes, but is not a base-stealing threat, which limits his utility... He is a waste of a roster spot and has been this entire season. Like, Romy Gonzalez has 90th percentile sprint speed, the same solid defense at 1B, a non-black-hole RHH bat, and he can mix in anywhere on the field defensively. What does Dalbec offer that Romy doesn't? Yeah, I hadn’t realized Romy was activated already. In that case not much reason to keep him on the 26 man right now.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 18, 2024 2:33:16 GMT -5
Is keller gone tmrw for martin?? Eventually is it one of mata keller or anderson Would keller or anderson clear waivers? Abrau and casas pretty much has to be dom and Bobby Who backs up 1rst. Ref? Romy( played 1rst in rehab) I cant see Grissom called up until hes hitting, but it would be nice to have the RH bat. Does Yorke get a chance ? Is Wink next up in line if need a starter? Unfortunately there will probably be more injuries or poor play. Hopefully its limited. Also see Keller over Anderson and really winkowski over both of them as the super long guy. Anderson's time has run it's course, especially with Campbell healthy now and Martin ready to be activated.
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Post by gerry on Jun 18, 2024 3:49:55 GMT -5
Good problems
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 19, 2024 7:32:28 GMT -5
I didn't see Criswell going to Woo - I liked his pitching approach and results, for the most part. Four starters listed - Winck coming up soon? Do we need all of Booser, Anderson and Keller?
When Abreu returns - Dom or Bobby D departs?
Team is coming into focus with increased health.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jun 19, 2024 9:55:42 GMT -5
I didn't see Criswell going to Woo - I liked his pitching approach and results, for the most part. Four starters listed - Winck coming up soon? Do we need all of Booser, Anderson and Keller? When Abreu returns - Dom or Bobby D departs? Team is coming into focus with increased health. I hope that Dalbec would be sent back down when Abreu is ready. But, the dude keeps surviving, so who knows.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 19, 2024 10:25:27 GMT -5
I didn't see Criswell going to Woo - I liked his pitching approach and results, for the most part. Four starters listed - Winck coming up soon? Do we need all of Booser, Anderson and Keller? When Abreu returns - Dom or Bobby D departs? Team is coming into focus with increased health. Because of off days, the Red Sox are going to need a fifth starter just once in the 15 days Criswell will be down. Made all the sense in the world to send him down to keep Kelly up and both Anderson and Keller on the roster, and just go with one bullpen game (will need to be sometime between 6/22 and 6/25). When Abreu comes back Dalbec probably goes back down assuming all else remains the same. Then creates interesting questions of how to divide playing time depending on matchups - you can push Rafaela back to SS more often, but do you really want to sit Hamilton or Valdez right now against RHP? File under good problems to have. Smith is around until Casas comes back. He's the starting 1B. (And again, how bad must Refsnyder have been at 1B for them to pull the plug on that so quickly? Such an obvious way to help get the best 9 bats into the lineup...)
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 19, 2024 10:29:00 GMT -5
I wonder now if they call Winckowski up to start, or at least provide length in, the bullpen game. He could presumably start the 24th or 25th in MLB. He's looked good and the reports are promising about him in AAA.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 19, 2024 10:47:26 GMT -5
I wonder now if they call Winckowski up to start, or at least provide length in, the bullpen game. He could presumably start the 24th or 25th in MLB. He's looked good and the reports are promising about him in AAA. Doubt it. They'd need to send someone down to do it then, presumably, send down Winckowski and recall Campbell.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 19, 2024 11:01:44 GMT -5
I wonder now if they call Winckowski up to start, or at least provide length in, the bullpen game. He could presumably start the 24th or 25th in MLB. He's looked good and the reports are promising about him in AAA. Doubt it. They'd need to send someone down to do it then, presumably, send down Winckowski and recall Campbell. I would be okay with that. Booser or maybe Kelly pitches two innings the day before, gets sent down to save the rest of the bullpen by using Winckowski to start, then Winckowski goes down for Campbell who goes back down once the clock is up. Presuming no other injuries.
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Post by asm18 on Jun 19, 2024 17:36:44 GMT -5
The Marlins series on July 1 Casas was targeting doesn’t seem realistic right now if he’s barely swinging. First series after the All-Star Break is July 19th @ the Dodgers, exactly one month from now.
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Post by cba82 on Jun 19, 2024 17:42:00 GMT -5
“Wong will catch all three in CIN” — Given the weather forecast for Cincinnati this weekend, I’ll be shocked if this happens.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jun 20, 2024 9:25:40 GMT -5
I wonder now if they call Winckowski up to start, or at least provide length in, the bullpen game. He could presumably start the 24th or 25th in MLB. He's looked good and the reports are promising about him in AAA. Doubt it. They'd need to send someone down to do it then, presumably, send down Winckowski and recall Campbell. Agreed, IMO, Winckowski gets a couple more starts in Worcester then becomes the Fifth starter in the rotation when it is needed for regular turns.
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Post by asm18 on Jun 20, 2024 9:50:52 GMT -5
If Romy can handle 1B, it has to be Dalbec sent back for Abreu over the weekend, right? Dom Smith is currently the primary 1B while we wait and wait for Casas, so it’s really just against lefties or due to late-game substitution tactics you’d use Romy there. (To Dom’s credit - in the month of June he’s slashing .286/.412/.405 with a 136 wRC+.)
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