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2013 Minor League Non-Red Sox
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Post by James Dunne on May 14, 2013 10:00:41 GMT -5
I realized we didn't have a thread for general observations around the minor leagues going this year.
I'd kind of stopped paying attention to him, but a few of the articles commenting on Rizzo's extension have mentioned that Reymond Fuentes is off to a hit start this year. Have to be impressed with a 22-year old hitting .333/.408/.486, but he's also riding a .410 BABIP. Bringing that down to .324, he'd have a .267/.350/.420 line - solid, and certainly a huge improvement over last year, but not really enough to get him back on the prospect radar screen I don't think. The most encouraging thing is that he's cut his K rate from over 25% to down below 20% while sustaining the gains in walk rate he made last season. Not sure if anyone here on the forum catches much Texas League action, but I'd be interested to hear a report on him.
I made fun of the A's for adding Ynoa to their 40-man after 17 thoroughly mediocre minor league appearances, but he's been dominating Beloit in the early going. It's hard to think he'd have stuck in the majors, but Billy Beane knows more about baseball than I do. I have to think they'll be aggressive with him given his roster status.
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Post by raftsox on May 14, 2013 12:05:39 GMT -5
They could have waited to add Ynoa. He wouldn't have stayed on a roster all season and then they wouldn't be burning an option for this resurgence year. It's unfortunate that they felt compelled to add him to the 40 man because it severely limits his chances to start.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 28, 2013 13:54:34 GMT -5
And I remember us(posters here at the time) wanting this guy to fall to the Red Sox. Dodge a bullet there. |
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Post by raftsox on May 28, 2013 14:26:41 GMT -5
Who doesn't throw change at strippers? Or hookers? You're an odd one Norb.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 28, 2013 15:10:18 GMT -5
I don't have a huge problem with that, though throwing quarters is not much to brag about, but why does he need to post on Facebook his adventures at a strip club.
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Post by amfox1 on May 29, 2013 14:10:31 GMT -5
And I remember us(posters here at the time) wanting this guy to fall to the Red Sox. Dodge a bullet there. He's been suspended indefinitely by TB, for conduct detrimental to the organization. |
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Post by widewordofsport on Jun 1, 2013 0:02:56 GMT -5
I *think* this is the right thread. I'm going to Asheville the weekend of the 14th, have a week off to play golf while my wife gets a massage or something. If Greenville was at Asheville, it'd be a sure thing, or even if Greenville (gags) was at home.
My baseball options:
AAA: Nashville (MIL) hosting Omaha (KCR) or New Orleans (MIA)
AA: Tennessee (CHI-N)hosting Mississippi (ATL)
A+: Asheville (COL) hosting Lexington (KCR)
If you had a chance for one of those, who would you want to see? I don't follow too many other prospects, especially onces not in a league with the Red Sox affiliates (PCL, Southern). Any really exciting players?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 1, 2013 0:28:02 GMT -5
I *think* this is the right thread. I'm going to Asheville the weekend of the 14th, have a week off to play golf while my wife gets a massage or something. If Greenville was at Asheville, it'd be a sure thing, or even if Greenville (gags) was at home. My baseball options: AAA: Nashville (MIL) hosting Omaha (KCR) or New Orleans (MIA) AA: Tennessee (CHI-N)hosting Mississippi (ATL) A+: Asheville (COL) hosting Lexington (KCR) If you had a chance for one of those, who would you want to see? I don't follow too many other prospects, especially onces not in a league with the Red Sox affiliates (PCL, Southern). Any really exciting players? I would go to the Asheville/Lexington series, to get a look at David Dahl, Adalberto Mondesi, Cam Gallagher, and last but not least, Bubba Starling. Tennessee and Mississippi also have a few good prospects, although most of them on the Mississippi side are starters so there's no guarantee you would see them. |
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Post by bentossaurus on Jun 1, 2013 0:34:48 GMT -5
Yup, stay in Asheville, at least that´s what I would do. You can even pitch to the Mrs. that you did it so you can spend more time together.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 1, 2013 17:06:39 GMT -5
I *think* this is the right thread. I'm going to Asheville the weekend of the 14th, have a week off to play golf while my wife gets a massage or something. If Greenville was at Asheville, it'd be a sure thing, or even if Greenville (gags) was at home. My baseball options: AAA: Nashville (MIL) hosting Omaha (KCR) or New Orleans (MIA) AA: Tennessee (CHI-N)hosting Mississippi (ATL) A+: Asheville (COL) hosting Lexington (KCR) If you had a chance for one of those, who would you want to see? I don't follow too many other prospects, especially onces not in a league with the Red Sox affiliates (PCL, Southern). Any really exciting players? Some nice choices there - lots of studs on those clubs. Here are guys that were top 100-ish entering the year (with former Sox farmhands in parentheses) Nashville: SP Tyler Thornburg, SP Johnny Hellweg (RP Michael Olmsted, SP Chris Narveson (who apparently just got sent down?), and kinda-sorta 1B Hunter Morris) Omaha: None, they have a bunch of former MLB'ers (plus two-second Red Sox C Max Ramirez) New Orleans: None really, but there's always a chance they promote someone like Yelich from AA. (IF Nick Green, IF Gil Velazquez) Tennessee: Nobody currently a top 100 guy, but SP Trey McNutt and OF Matt Szczur used to be (SP Yeiper "holy crap he's in Double-A now because he destroyed the FSL" Castillo, RP Hunter Cervenka, manager Buddy Bailey) Mississippi: SP J.R. Graham, C Christian Bethancourt, 3B Edward Salcedo (P Mike Lee, plus RP Jason Rice has been on their DL all year) Asheville: OF David Dahl Lexington: SS Raul Adalberto Mondesi, OF Bubba Starling, SP Miguel Almonte So yeah, I'd say that considering ease of travel, you're probably good in Asheville, but I wouldn't mind seeing that Mississippi team if you can time a Graham start. |
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Post by widewordofsport on Jun 1, 2013 20:18:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I'll check out Lexington/Asheville then... I live in Nashville and am close to enough to Chattanooga to check those out if I ever get a weekend off from work. I'll update how it was, but I'm not a scout and can't pretend to be, so it'll be a fairly boring report.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 27, 2013 9:53:52 GMT -5
Raul Alcantara, aka the only person from the Bailey trade playing well this year, was promoted to High-A Stockton this past week. His walk rates are phenomenal, but needless to say the California League is going to be a challenge for anyone with low strikeout numbers.
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Post by elguapo on Jun 27, 2013 10:29:33 GMT -5
Dahl is hurt or something. I got to see the Tourists recently and man, their lineup has some hitters. Rosell Herrera, 20 year old SS out of D.R., looks awesome, athletic, wiry, nice arm, crushing the Sally League. Saw him make a mid-game adjustment after swinging over a breaking ball in the dirt in one at bat - wow. Tom Murphy, C, 3rd round in 2012, is bashing away but he's extra meaty and I wonder if he'll peter out offensively at higher levels and move to 1B/DH. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2013 18:18:39 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 18, 2013 14:27:24 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo reports that Matt Antonelli has retired from baseball. Some of the other Mass. posters here will remember him dominating at St. John's Prep before he went to Wake Forest. His minor league numbers aren't terrible, but he struggled in his one major league opportunity. From a development standpoint, he's a cautionary tale for all of those player with a good plate discipline that don't drive the ball. It's possible to put up a high OBP without a great slugging percentage in the lower minors, but as a player moves up, they need to really punish mistakes or pitchers just won't pitch them carefully enough to draw walks. Anyhow, he's apparently going to be taking an assistant coaching job at Wake, so good luck to him there. |
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Post by elguapo on Jul 19, 2013 8:45:47 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo reports that Matt Antonelli has retired from baseball. ... From a development standpoint, he's a cautionary tale for all of those player with a good plate discipline that don't drive the ball. It's possible to put up a high OBP without a great slugging percentage in the lower minors, but as a player moves up, they need to really punish mistakes or pitchers just won't pitch them carefully enough to draw walks. He certainly drove the ball at age 22; .180 isoP, 21 HR at A+/AA. Also he sustained a healthy walk rate his entire career. So really not a good example of what you're talking about. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 19, 2013 10:16:23 GMT -5
Much of that was in the California League though, though he did continue to hit pretty well in the Texas League in a smaller sample. His walk rate remained steady at Triple-A (13.3 percent), but his strikeout rate inched up toward 20%. My bigger point was that at Wake Forest and in the low minors his plate discipline was considered his biggest plus. He saw a lot of pitches, the thinking went, and therefore should be able to drive the one he waited for. He never did, though, outside of one sorta flukish season.
Basically, Antonelli's career was the downside that people were worried about with Colin Moran. Selectivity and discipline are great assets , but can a player drive those pitches that he waits for? Some players do learn to - John Olerud is probably the perfect world example.
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Post by elguapo on Jul 19, 2013 10:53:18 GMT -5
His walk rate remained steady at Triple-A (13.3 percent), but his strikeout rate inched up toward 20%.... His K rate inched up to 16% accoring to Fangraphs, a slight tick up from his A/AA numbers. Sometimes I think you just make things up. Anyway, still a poor example. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 24, 2013 15:57:38 GMT -5
Tyler Guerrieri to have TJ surgery. He was #28 on Sickels' midseason rankings, #29 on BA's.
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Post by lennsakata on Jul 25, 2013 8:26:17 GMT -5
Stolmy having a nice year and is pitcing even better in AAA then he did in AA.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 26, 2013 18:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 28, 2013 4:49:43 GMT -5
Sano benched 4 straight games for pimping on a home run and then basically telling his manager (and GM?) to pound sand.
Just embarrassing, disgraceful behavior on his part. Terrible. I think the Twins should show him who's boss and immediately trade him to the Red Sox please.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 28, 2013 7:11:03 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 28, 2013 8:49:17 GMT -5
Outstanding read by Gabe Kapler of all people about Lars Anderson and the mental side of baseball: bit.ly/13mQd6o |
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 28, 2013 8:58:05 GMT -5
Clint Frazier has strong .866 ops, but peripherals of 26ks and 5 walks after 75 abs bear watching to see how his hit tool develops against tougher pitching.
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