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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 4, 2024 20:04:16 GMT -5
He won't turn 26 until midway through Spring Training next year.
He's starting to heat up after an off year and a slow start.
He's 1B/DH only and will be due ~$25m in arbitration for next season, so could come cheaper than many expect...
... although there will be many bidders (including MFY) if TOR decides to blow it up. He's the second half of the L/R core the Sox have been missing since Papi/Manny.
He hit a ball out of Fenway last month that still hasn't landed.
He would significantly improve the Red Sox' chances of making the playoffs in 2024 and 2025.
I would start the bidding at Yorke + Wikelman + a sweetener outside of the SP top 20.
If DD were still here, this would already be done.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 4, 2024 20:50:24 GMT -5
He won't turn 26 until midway through Spring Training next year. He's starting to heat up after an off year and a slow start. He's 1B/DH only and will be due ~$25m in arbitration for next season, so could come cheaper than many expect...
... although there will be many bidders (including MFY) if TOR decides to blow it up. He's the second half of the L/R core the Sox have been missing since Papi/Manny.
He hit a ball out of Fenway last month that still hasn't landed.
He would significantly improve the Red Sox' chances of making the playoffs in 2024 and 2025.
I would start the bidding at Yorke + Wikelman + a sweetener outside of the SP top 20.
If DD were still here, this would already be done.
Not sure of the price to get him. Wiki Gonzalez hasn't pitched well. But thinking of an October lineup that goes like this: Duran CF Abreu/Refsnyder RF Devers 3b Vlad Jr DH Casas 1b O'Neill LF Wong C Hamilton 2b Rafaela SS That's a well balanced lineup. Doubt theyll have Yoshida as an 18 million dollar PH, but fun to think of a lineup like that. I wouldn't be surprised if Vlad Jr gets dealt to NYY instead.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 4, 2024 21:27:03 GMT -5
He won't turn 26 until midway through Spring Training next year. He's starting to heat up after an off year and a slow start. He's 1B/DH only and will be due ~$25m in arbitration for next season, so could come cheaper than many expect...
... although there will be many bidders (including MFY) if TOR decides to blow it up. He's the second half of the L/R core the Sox have been missing since Papi/Manny.
He hit a ball out of Fenway last month that still hasn't landed.
He would significantly improve the Red Sox' chances of making the playoffs in 2024 and 2025.
I would start the bidding at Yorke + Wikelman + a sweetener outside of the SP top 20.
If DD were still here, this would already be done.
Not sure of the price to get him. Wiki Gonzalez hasn't pitched well. But thinking of an October lineup that goes like this: Duran CF Abreu/Refsnyder RF Devers 3b Vlad Jr DH Casas 1b O'Neill LF Wong C Hamilton 2b Rafaela SS That's a well balanced lineup. Doubt theyll have Yoshida as an 18 million dollar PH, but fun to think of a lineup like that. I wouldn't be surprised if Vlad Jr gets dealt to NYY instead. The Sox farm system is better and deeper than MFY's. You simply outbid them (to a point). TOR is likely to get more for Vladdy than a RHH 1B-only guy is really worth but you have to decide whether that lineup now (plus next year) is worth more than what guys like Yorke and Wikelman might be 3-5 years from now. That's the whole nature of being a deadline buyer. I wonder how much higher the price might go...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 4, 2024 21:46:49 GMT -5
Not sure of the price to get him. Wiki Gonzalez hasn't pitched well. But thinking of an October lineup that goes like this: Duran CF Abreu/Refsnyder RF Devers 3b Vlad Jr DH Casas 1b O'Neill LF Wong C Hamilton 2b Rafaela SS That's a well balanced lineup. Doubt theyll have Yoshida as an 18 million dollar PH, but fun to think of a lineup like that. I wouldn't be surprised if Vlad Jr gets dealt to NYY instead. The Sox farm system is better and deeper than MFY's. You simply outbid them (to a point). TOR is likely to get more for Vladdy than a RHH 1B-only guy is really worth but you have to decide whether that lineup now (plus next year) is worth more than what guys like Yorke and Wikelman might be 3-5 years from now. That's the whole nature of being a deadline buyer. I wonder how much higher the price might go... If it was Yorke and Wiki I'd make the trade in a heartbeat. Gonzalez hasn't exactly impressed. I'd still say its NYY because they have more need/incentive to get him while the Sox already have an 18 million dollar DH so I doubt theyre acquiring another DH.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 5, 2024 10:08:08 GMT -5
So do you write Yoshida's name on the lineup card in Sharpie until the end of the 2027 season just because he has an immovable contract? It's a sunk cost. He's Rusney Castillo (damn, it was hard for this old brain to conjure thet name but I finally did it), with perhaps a better shot of hitting his way back but without the defense.
Vladdy Jr., thru 2025 makes too much sense for the Sox. The financial house is in order (Yoshida being an outlier), he's a proven middle-of-the-order bat, it's short-term during his prime, and there's a fit. Plus, he's boys with Devers.
Btw, there's another big reason why MFY may not even be serious contenders for Vladdy: they are already paying ~100% tax on every dollar they add to payroll (with draft pick penalties in the offing) and piling on another $25m for Vladdy in 2025 is not the direction they want to go. Maybe they'd just non-tender him? Plus, they need pitching more than a RH bat (they're already too RH) and already have an even more expensive, more entrenched DH-only guy than the Sox have.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 5, 2024 11:43:08 GMT -5
So do you write Yoshida's name on the lineup card in Sharpie until the end of the 2027 season just because he has an immovable contract? It's a sunk cost. He's Rusney Castillo (damn, it was hard for this old brain to conjure thet name but I finally did it), with perhaps a better shot of hitting his way back but without the defense. Vladdy Jr., thru 2025 makes too much sense for the Sox. The financial house is in order (Yoshida being an outlier), he's a proven middle-of-the-order bat, it's short-term during his prime, and there's a fit. Plus, he's boys with Devers. Btw, there's another big reason why MFY may not even be serious contenders for Vladdy: they are already paying ~100% tax on every dollar they add to payroll (with draft pick penalties in the offing) and piling on another $25m for Vladdy in 2025 is not the direction they want to go. Maybe they'd just non-tender him? Plus, they need pitching more than a RH bat (they're already too RH) and already have an even more expensive, more entrenched DH-only guy than the Sox have. Rizzo's contract is up after the year. Verdugo is a goner. I know the funds need to be allocated for Soto, but they still will have a short term need for this year and ne't for a 1b. While I dont see Yoshida hanging on for 3 more years i dont see them doing the Rusney you dont exist Castillo thing with him though. They're not paying 43 million for the DH position. They're just not.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 7, 2024 8:38:46 GMT -5
So do you write Yoshida's name on the lineup card in Sharpie until the end of the 2027 season just because he has an immovable contract? It's a sunk cost. He's Rusney Castillo (damn, it was hard for this old brain to conjure thet name but I finally did it), with perhaps a better shot of hitting his way back but without the defense. Vladdy Jr., thru 2025 makes too much sense for the Sox. The financial house is in order (Yoshida being an outlier), he's a proven middle-of-the-order bat, it's short-term during his prime, and there's a fit. Plus, he's boys with Devers. Btw, there's another big reason why MFY may not even be serious contenders for Vladdy: they are already paying ~100% tax on every dollar they add to payroll (with draft pick penalties in the offing) and piling on another $25m for Vladdy in 2025 is not the direction they want to go. Maybe they'd just non-tender him? Plus, they need pitching more than a RH bat (they're already too RH) and already have an even more expensive, more entrenched DH-only guy than the Sox have. Looks like you're right after all. Ben Rice is acting like a guy who's ready to step into the 1b job, so if that's the case that's a good stroke of fortune for the Yankees, as they wouldn't need to spend on Vlad Jr and can put their money toward bringing back Soto. I love the fit for Vladdy Jr. In the Sox lineup but unless the Sox find a way to totally move Yoshida's contact they're not going to tie up a ridiculous amount of dollars in the DH spot. Vladdy Jr will get moved but I'm thinking it could be elsewhere - the Astros could use a 1b, right?
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 7, 2024 15:47:54 GMT -5
I love the idea of Vlad but its going to cost alot more than we probably want to spend. I do t think you would have to touch the top 3 but Bleis or Campbell Perales fitts sandlin slaten or kelly Abrau cespedes or zanitello
Think something more like that if you want Torontos attention
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 10, 2024 0:04:48 GMT -5
I love the idea of Vlad but its going to cost alot more than we probably want to spend. I do t think you would have to touch the top 3 but Bleis or Campbell Perales fitts sandlin slaten or kelly Abrau cespedes or zanitello Think something more like that if you want Torontos attention Yeah, this is more realistic and still too steep to get a player you can just sign as a free agent in a year and half time.
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