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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 16, 2024 16:39:43 GMT -5
John West is a guy who has all the traits to be a good pitcher. But just wasn't very good. I wouldn't hate a late round flyer on him to see if our new pitching lab can mold him into something. Doesn't hurt that he is a local kid. Can someone please post a picture of this new pitching lab I keep hearing about??
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 16, 2024 16:39:59 GMT -5
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 16, 2024 16:40:35 GMT -5
I thought the Florida state 1b Ledbetter, career home run champ, was the poster boy for the old Sox.
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Post by mobaz on Jul 16, 2024 16:41:57 GMT -5
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Jul 16, 2024 16:43:44 GMT -5
Bring on the signing thread!
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Post by badfishnbc on Jul 16, 2024 16:46:04 GMT -5
Presumably we calling him Hijo, no? GET EL HIJO DEL PAPI A MASK.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 16, 2024 17:04:12 GMT -5
Tygart has the best breaking ball I've ever seen at the collegiate level. He absolutely cannot command his fastball, which really hurt his overall numbers. Has been injured on and off the last few years. Was filthy as a reliever. The feel he has with both his slider and curve is absolutely elite and will make him a quick mover. Has to learn fastball command. But there is a lot to work with This comment led me to Youtube. The breaking ball does indeed look great. That’s a lot of curveballs. If he can’t locate a FB to save his skin and his CU and SL are both above, why not just throw benders?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2024 17:05:09 GMT -5
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Post by soxin8 on Jul 16, 2024 17:09:54 GMT -5
With their final pick of the 2024 draft, at 597 the Red Sox select Ben Hansen, RHP, BYU. vermont, how can we express all our gratitude.
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Post by jaffinator on Jul 16, 2024 17:21:19 GMT -5
Legitimately surprised that they didn't draft a just in case HS guy to allocate money to in case something else falls through
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 16, 2024 17:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by evanstonredsox on Jul 16, 2024 17:42:26 GMT -5
need someone to track down his in-zone contact and chase rates
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 16, 2024 17:45:04 GMT -5
John West is a guy who has all the traits to be a good pitcher. But just wasn't very good. I wouldn't hate a late round flyer on him to see if our new pitching lab can mold him into something. Doesn't hurt that he is a local kid. Can someone please post a picture of this new pitching lab I keep hearing about?? It's supposed to be top secret but a buddy snuck me a picture.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 16, 2024 17:47:46 GMT -5
Bring on the signing thread! Nobody signed yet??
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 16, 2024 17:48:44 GMT -5
Another year of great coverage from posters who know more than I ever will and vermont for directing the traffic. Thank you all.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 16, 2024 17:49:28 GMT -5
Can someone please post a picture of this new pitching lab I keep hearing about?? It's supposed to be top secret but a buddy snuck me a picture. Just quickie comment love the logo pic Phil.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 17, 2024 7:19:44 GMT -5
In the end the Sox only drafted 2 more pitchers this year than they did last year.
However, they drafted 6 guys ranked by BA vs. 2
That's the difference we've been looking for.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 17, 2024 7:55:41 GMT -5
Feels weird this year has less high school kids than 2023 and 2021 since COVID resulted in so many players who would have otherwise been drafted going to college/JUCO. Instead this just seems a theme that teams are far more hesitant to take the risks on high schoolers, especially with the shorter draft (meaning those organizational bodies need to be drafted earlier).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2024 10:10:11 GMT -5
Feels weird this year has less high school kids than 2020 and 2021 since COVID resulted in so many players who would have otherwise been drafted going to college/JUCO. Instead this just seems a theme that teams are far more hesitant to take the risks on high schoolers, especially with the shorter draft (meaning those organizational bodies need to be drafted earlier). I assume they didn't include the 5-round 2020 draft.
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Post by alnipper on Jul 17, 2024 12:09:35 GMT -5
They sure started scouting him at a young age!
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Post by bluechip on Jul 17, 2024 12:43:23 GMT -5
Feels weird this year has less high school kids than 2020 and 2021 since COVID resulted in so many players who would have otherwise been drafted going to college/JUCO. Instead this just seems a theme that teams are far more hesitant to take the risks on high schoolers, especially with the shorter draft (meaning those organizational bodies need to be drafted earlier). I assume they didn't include the 5-round 2020 draft. Yes. 2020 was a typo. I should have written 2023. Since the draft was so small in 2020 and so few high schoolers were picked, shouldn’t that mean that 2023 should have had more college players and therefore less 2023 high school players? Instead 2023 was inline with other years and 2024 had the most college players. I appreciate that could mean that the 2020 high school class just went for four years to college, but it does not seem like this past year had more seniors that years past, I could be wrong.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 17, 2024 13:09:09 GMT -5
Interesting to see that Baltimore signed a HS UFDA, Alex Ramos a FIU commit from NY. He was likely to be highly regarded this cycle, but had TJ this spring.
The O's had a college heavy draft, and even the 1 HS player they took inside the top 10 rounds is outside of the top 500/250 for BA/MLBp, likewise for the HSer they took in the 12th, and then the 3rd and final HS they took in 269 on BA's board but is a JUCO commit. Their board is pretty chalk based on rankings- so curious to see if they committed over $150K to Ramos-I'm guessing they prob gave him $200K
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Post by bojacksoxfan on Jul 17, 2024 13:45:38 GMT -5
I saw a rumor somewhere in all the pre draft buildup that MLB wants to cut out another level of the minors. I think MLB owners are jealous that the other sports get to outsource their player development costs and want colleges to bare more and more of their costs too. There are bean counters in baseball happily looking at these data as good supporting evidence to get rid of one of the A ball leagues. If every team is only drafting 2 or 3 HS kids do we really need to spend money on TWO full season A ball leagues? I think the model is moving towards cheap teenagers playing in complex leagues, a rough bridge A ball league for the good teenagers and the lower end college guys and then the high minors finishing levels. It will be bad for baseball, but good for some short term bottom lines.
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 17, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -5
I saw a rumor somewhere in all the pre draft buildup that MLB wants to cut out another level of the minors. I think MLB owners are jealous that the other sports get to outsource their player development costs and want colleges to bare more and more of their costs too. There are bean counters in baseball happily looking at these data as good supporting evidence to get rid of one of the A ball leagues. If every team is only drafting 2 or 3 HS kids do we really need to spend money on TWO full season A ball leagues? I think the model is moving towards cheap teenagers playing in complex leagues, a rough bridge A ball league for the good teenagers and the lower end college guys and then the high minors finishing levels. It will be bad for baseball, but good for some short term bottom lines. And then they'll act surprised when hitters crash and burn when first called up, strikeout rates keep going up, and everyone is suddenly a reliever.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 17, 2024 18:00:45 GMT -5
Feels weird this year has less high school kids than 2023 and 2021 since COVID resulted in so many players who would have otherwise been drafted going to college/JUCO. Instead this just seems a theme that teams are far more hesitant to take the risks on high schoolers, especially with the shorter draft (meaning those organizational bodies need to be drafted earlier). Also NIL
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