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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2024 16:00:54 GMT -5
As it is the FCL is playing a bunch of 6 or 7 inning games that are not shortened by rain because teams only have so many pitchers. If you're adding draftees to the DRL that aren't going to pitch, you're going to have an even worse problem.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 17, 2024 16:07:15 GMT -5
As it is the FCL is playing a bunch of 6 or 7 inning games that are not shortened by rain because teams only have so many pitchers. If you're adding draftees to the DRL that aren't going to pitch, you're going to have an even worse problem. I'm sorry to have hijacked this thread... who pitches in the "Tricky" league or intrasquad games, etc.? Coaches? The guys they're about to cut who are then re-hired as "coaches"? Again, just curious. (This should be required reading for economists and policy wonks, plus socialists like me who like government regulation / meddling, on the unintended consequences of messing with Mr. Smith's invisible hand.)
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Post by mobaz on Jul 17, 2024 16:17:08 GMT -5
Predictions on first (draftee) signing report? I'm going with Tolle. You mean first player to report after signing? The deadline is in just 2 weeks, and after everyone signs, they have them all report to Fort Myers for what's essentially an orientation. So they basically all show up down there at once. It's unclear if any will appear in games this year, particularly given that the FCL will be over. The health of guys like Montgomery will be a big factor too. Pearson wouldn't commit one way or the other to whether he'd play in games when I asked the other day. I meant who signs first. The "report" part being sometimes guys sign but it isn't released right away publicly. Poor wording on my part.
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Post by vmoss on Jul 17, 2024 17:51:47 GMT -5
You mean first player to report after signing? The deadline is in just 2 weeks, and after everyone signs, they have them all report to Fort Myers for what's essentially an orientation. So they basically all show up down there at once. It's unclear if any will appear in games this year, particularly given that the FCL will be over. The health of guys like Montgomery will be a big factor too. Pearson wouldn't commit one way or the other to whether he'd play in games when I asked the other day. I meant who signs first. The "report" part being sometimes guys sign but it isn't released right away publicly. Poor wording on my part. I think Ortiz's son has already signed.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 17, 2024 17:53:24 GMT -5
The senior signs are getting squeezed this year. A lot of four figure bonuses, down to $2,000. I really don't like these guys not getting enough money to make a decent living in their first full year in pro baseball. Is giving them $25k instead of $2k really going to be the difference with you signing a higher valued player?
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Post by gerry on Jul 17, 2024 18:10:11 GMT -5
It might certainly make a difference with their health and hearth which would impact their confidence. If this is really happening it’s another episode of shortsighted dumb.
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Post by seamus on Jul 17, 2024 19:01:25 GMT -5
There really should be some sort of minimum bonus (maybe $25k) so that the guys who have no leverage aren't taken advantage of that way. I hope those guys getting the tiny bonuses for pool purposes are at least still getting the extra $2,500 contingency bonus. (That's still a thing, right?)
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 17, 2024 20:12:04 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 17, 2024 20:53:35 GMT -5
Add to the FCL games issue it's Florida, summer, thunderstorms generally multiple times daily that come out of nowhere.
Good idea many fcl teams had to begin some games at 10am, before the things start.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 18, 2024 8:03:03 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 18, 2024 11:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by bucksmatthew on Jul 18, 2024 11:22:52 GMT -5
A local I've somehow never heard of (I live in Doylestown) - but 3 years ago the same happened with Nick Bitsko, and my stepdaughters went to HS with him, one of them in the same class.......
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Post by 0ap0 on Jul 18, 2024 11:52:49 GMT -5
I read the blurb and I read the linked article and I'm still not actually sure if they're saying he intends to sign or not.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 18, 2024 11:58:06 GMT -5
I read the blurb and I read the linked article and I'm still not actually sure if they're saying he intends to sign or not. Those quotes by him would be pretty wild if he’s not signing.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 18, 2024 12:24:36 GMT -5
I read the blurb and I read the linked article and I'm still not actually sure if they're saying he intends to sign or not. Those quotes by him would be pretty wild if he’s not signing. Remember these are 17-19 year olds.
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Post by soxin8 on Jul 18, 2024 12:36:49 GMT -5
There really should be some sort of minimum bonus (maybe $25k) so that the guys who have no leverage aren't taken advantage of that way. I hope those guys getting the tiny bonuses for pool purposes are at least still getting the extra $2,500 contingency bonus. (That's still a thing, right?) Two years ago, it was common for 10th round picks and some others to receive 10,000 bonuses so the majority of the slot could go to higher priority signings. Last year the minimum the Sox gave out was 50,000 to the draft picks in the first 10. I thought that was a nice gesture.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 18, 2024 13:12:19 GMT -5
Those quotes by him would be pretty wild if he’s not signing. Remember these are 17-19 year olds. I mean that guy is at least 21 but even if your point was true it’s a relatively definitive statement to be made for anyone.
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Post by LoneStarSox on Jul 18, 2024 14:02:54 GMT -5
Those quotes by him would be pretty wild if he’s not signing. Remember these are 17-19 year olds. fwiw he turns 21 in less than a month. But your point is a sound one. Edit: always read on for additional context smh (see: thegoodthebadthesox)
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Post by scorpionix on Jul 18, 2024 16:29:12 GMT -5
The #Angels signed 17th rounder Lucas Ramirez for $150,000.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 18, 2024 18:59:17 GMT -5
The #Angels signed 17th rounder Lucas Ramirez for $150,000. Lucas Ramirez is also now batting 7th against the A's tomorrow night
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 18, 2024 20:26:34 GMT -5
There really should be some sort of minimum bonus (maybe $25k) so that the guys who have no leverage aren't taken advantage of that way. I hope those guys getting the tiny bonuses for pool purposes are at least still getting the extra $2,500 contingency bonus. (That's still a thing, right?) Two years ago, it was common for 10th round picks and some others to receive 10,000 bonuses so the majority of the slot could go to higher priority signings. Last year the minimum the Sox gave out was 50,000 to the draft picks in the first 10. I thought that was a nice gesture. Shame can't just hand 'em an envelope with, say 10k stuffed inside instead.. Oh wait.. That's how politicians do it, both sides..
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Post by soxaddict on Jul 18, 2024 20:43:08 GMT -5
The #Angels signed 17th rounder Lucas Ramirez for $150,000. Bummer. He was a Vol commit, was hoping to see Manny at a game. Would have been cool to draft Big Papi's and Manny's kids in the same draft.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 19, 2024 10:04:05 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 19, 2024 11:04:12 GMT -5
Very nice, lots of detail. Thank you.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 19, 2024 12:18:57 GMT -5
One interesting point for this Signing Period will be that teams should be inclined to announce their signings much later than previous years because of domestic reserve list.
Since the Red Sox went pitching heavy and pitchers rarely pitch in the year they are drafted, it's in the Red Sox best interest to hold off on announcing their signings until the very end of the signing period and utilize the 15-day reserve list grace period to maximize the number of innings they can get out of guys who may no longer have a spot after the signings.
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