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2024 Draft Signing Period
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2024 19:27:37 GMT -5
So did Prager turn down a big overslot deal and Gregory-Alford was the backup plan, or did Prager turn down slot? The comp pick for not signing a third rounder is after the round, so they'll lose like 20 spots and $300k in bonus pool, In the first two rounds you get the pick at the same number+1, so it's pretty much a free roll. Thankfully teams do not really take advantage of that. Sort of a split between the two. Overslot, but Gregory-Alford wasn’t a backup plan. TGA sounded pretty confident very soon after the draft that he was not heading to college. I assume that deal was laid before the draft started. Thus his availability in the 11th round.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 24, 2024 21:01:30 GMT -5
Gregory-Alford might've been a contingency plan. The most they could've offered Prager signing Gregory-Alford for that is $1,085,725, by my count (slot plus 5% plus the amount left under the cap).
Started with $12,984,500 - subtract Prager's $948,600 = $12,035,900 5% overage: $12,637,695
1. Moore - $5m even ($1.5m under slot): $7,637,695 remaining 2. Cortez - $1.6m ($470k under slot): $6,037,695 remaining 2C. Johnson - $1.75m ($690k over slot): $4,287,695 remaining 4. Gordon - $572,500 ($90,400 under): $3,715,195 remaining 5. Jordan - $1.25m ($769,200 over): $2,465,195 remaining 6. Olejnik - $197,500 ($168,600 under): $2,267,695 remaining 7. Holmes $215,000 ($75,200 under): $2,052,695 remaining 8. Flores - $1,000 ($226,700 under): $2,051,695 remaining 9. Clark - $1,000 ($196,500 under): $2,050,695 remaining 10. Nicholson - $1,000 ($183,600 under): $2,049,695 remaining 11. Gregory-Alford - $1.96m ($1.81m counts): $89,695
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 24, 2024 22:55:36 GMT -5
Gregory-Alford might've been a contingency plan. The most they could've offered Prager signing Gregory-Alford for that is $1,085,725, by my count (slot plus 5% plus the amount left under the cap). Started with $12,984,500 - subtract Prager's $948,600 = $12,035,900 5% overage: $12,637,695 1. Moore - $5m even ($1.5m under slot): $7,637,695 remaining 2. Cortez - $1.6m ($470k under slot): $6,037,695 remaining 2C. Johnson - $1.75m ($690k over slot): $4,287,695 remaining 4. Gordon - $572,500 ($90,400 under): $3,715,195 remaining 5. Jordan - $1.25m ($769,200 over): $2,465,195 remaining 6. Olejnik - $197,500 ($168,600 under): $2,267,695 remaining 7. Holmes $215,000 ($75,200 under): $2,052,695 remaining 8. Flores - $1,000 ($226,700 under): $2,051,695 remaining 9. Clark - $1,000 ($196,500 under): $2,050,695 remaining 10. Nicholson - $1,000 ($183,600 under): $2,049,695 remaining 11. Gregory-Alford - $1.96m ($1.81m counts): $89,695 I’m sure your math is right (I’m too tired to dispute it), but I also know the number Prager got offered and it was more than that. You could be right though, I guess I was thinking the two weren’t related because Alford signed before I heard about Prager coming back but I suppose I could’ve just heard it late. I wonder if this was another Jud Fabian situation.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2024 23:08:46 GMT -5
Gregory-Alford might've been a contingency plan. The most they could've offered Prager signing Gregory-Alford for that is $1,085,725, by my count (slot plus 5% plus the amount left under the cap). Started with $12,984,500 - subtract Prager's $948,600 = $12,035,900 5% overage: $12,637,695 1. Moore - $5m even ($1.5m under slot): $7,637,695 remaining 2. Cortez - $1.6m ($470k under slot): $6,037,695 remaining 2C. Johnson - $1.75m ($690k over slot): $4,287,695 remaining 4. Gordon - $572,500 ($90,400 under): $3,715,195 remaining 5. Jordan - $1.25m ($769,200 over): $2,465,195 remaining 6. Olejnik - $197,500 ($168,600 under): $2,267,695 remaining 7. Holmes $215,000 ($75,200 under): $2,052,695 remaining 8. Flores - $1,000 ($226,700 under): $2,051,695 remaining 9. Clark - $1,000 ($196,500 under): $2,050,695 remaining 10. Nicholson - $1,000 ($183,600 under): $2,049,695 remaining 11. Gregory-Alford - $1.96m ($1.81m counts): $89,695 It seems impossible he was a contingency, since on July 16th he was Indicating he had agreed to a contract with the Angels. Unless the Angels immediately knew the Prager wouldn’t sign…in which case, they made a terrible selection that early. I suppose that’s possible, but a contingency turned to immediately means there was close to no back and forth with either player. With the amount of money involved, that would seem imprudent. krdo.com/news/2024/07/16/coronados-trey-gregory-alford-drafted-by-angels/
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 24, 2024 23:10:52 GMT -5
So let's say they offered 1.5, which they now can't. Did they give away some of his overslot money to others after they learned he wasn't signing? That doesn't sound like the Angels tbh. Or maybe they really screwed the pooch in some way. They gave a college junior 690k over slot at 74 which is a little odd. Maybe between days two and three they learned they could get the prep arm for $2 million if they sacrificed one of their earlier overslots and that sounded like a good piece of business to them.
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Post by bluechip on Jul 24, 2024 23:23:44 GMT -5
. Maybe between days two and three they learned they could get the prep arm for $2 million if they sacrificed one of their earlier overslots and that sounded like a good piece of business to them. That seems possible based up TGA’s comments. He expected to go in the first three rounds but wasn’t going to the money he expected. Between days two and three (or even while day two was ongoing), he made a deal with the Angels. The Angels changed course, and went for him, sacrificing Prager.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 25, 2024 9:48:03 GMT -5
Where the passing on Braden Montgomery to save some money cash went
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 25, 2024 10:44:47 GMT -5
FYI, the draft signing deadline is August 1 at 5:00 pm ET. Not July 30 as previously reported. My bad.
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Post by nelledouville on Jul 25, 2024 13:13:33 GMT -5
I checked on line and every site says July 30. Not one says Aug 1st. Everything I see in search gives 1 August at 5 PM Eastern.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 25, 2024 13:14:34 GMT -5
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jul 25, 2024 13:15:06 GMT -5
What I said up above was not correct to the draft signing period. why can't I just delete it? I erased it and used save changes and yet it still is there. You need a delete feature.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jul 25, 2024 13:19:02 GMT -5
July 30 is the trade deadline and that what I was thinking..My bad.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 25, 2024 13:40:54 GMT -5
What I said up above was not correct to the draft signing period. why can't I just delete it? I erased it and used save changes and yet it still is there. You need a delete feature. I'm your delete button...
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 25, 2024 14:04:57 GMT -5
What I said up above was not correct to the draft signing period. why can't I just delete it? I erased it and used save changes and yet it still is there. You need a delete feature. we have all been there.. you can always edit and replace the original text with a note stating "Deleted". Then the MOD will likely clean it up at some point
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Post by redsox3524 on Jul 25, 2024 15:08:49 GMT -5
is this still happening today?
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 25, 2024 15:16:23 GMT -5
is this still happening today? I guess?
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Post by redsox3524 on Jul 25, 2024 15:25:06 GMT -5
is this still happening today? I guess?
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Post by redsox3524 on Jul 25, 2024 15:26:05 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Jul 25, 2024 15:26:38 GMT -5
FWIW, we often get a bunch of reported signings towards the end of the day (East Coast). I often arrive home from my commute to find a bunch of Collazo and/or Callis/Mayo tweets. Hoping we see a bunch in a couple of hours.
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Post by sparky7576 on Jul 25, 2024 19:53:21 GMT -5
Any word on who has signed for the Red Sox yet? Any word on anyone the club is having difficulty signing?
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Post by alnipper on Jul 25, 2024 20:18:49 GMT -5
The new GM is keeping things quiet.
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Post by nonothing on Jul 25, 2024 20:19:50 GMT -5
Maybe some are coming to Fenway for BP before Yanks series and they will announce from Fenway?
100% making this up as a possibility/pure speculation to be clear, but seems possible given no announcements today?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 25, 2024 20:21:52 GMT -5
I think there is a distinct possibility that Braden Montgomery (and maybe Payton Tolle) will be at Fenway tomorrow to sign and have media availability, etc.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce all the signings then, too.
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Post by foreverred9 on Jul 25, 2024 20:44:29 GMT -5
I'd tell them to do it Saturday so that they don't have to watch the Friday night Sox.
But I second that, the media/PR seems perfect to do it tomorrow before the game.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 26, 2024 7:18:32 GMT -5
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