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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 17, 2024 15:51:35 GMT -5
If I understood what problem would be solved if teams could trade draft picks, I'd be able to offer thoughts pro or con. Without that, I am opposed, the status quo works fine. The problem, in my opinion, is that currently there is an unnecessary limitation on teams' strategic decisions. Why not let them trade picks? I'd also frame the decision process differently, it's not a question of if the status quo is good enough but if the alternative is better.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2024 15:58:47 GMT -5
If I understood what problem would be solved if teams could trade draft picks, I'd be able to offer thoughts pro or con. Without that, I am opposed, the status quo works fine. Fair. I'll take a stab at it. 1) It would help facilitate trading. Teams value minor leaguers very differently which can sometimes create a holdup on trade discussions. Draft picks would potentially provide a more uniformly valued asset to use in deals. 2) The MLB Draft is boring as hell and they're trying to make it more of an event for fans. Knowing trades are potentially on the table could help generate a little more interest. 3) The MLB Draft is weird in the way that the best players don't necessarily get drafted in order. This might help make the talent distribution a little more uniform by allowing teams to trade up for players rather than the old "tell teams I have a crazy high bonus number in the hope I fall to pick X" thing that happens now and kind of defeats the point. You could also say the converse - what problem is solved by NOT allowing teams to trade picks? I think in the year 2024 we've reached a point that no team is going to just sell off its picks - every team has figured out the potential ROI of investing in the draft by now. Every time I've heard it discussed, there would be a limitation on the picks that can be traded - just the first round or the first 5 rounds or so. It would also require them to discuss how the bonus pool is affected, although the easy answer seems to be the pick's bonus money travels with the pick.
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Post by rickasadoorian on Jul 17, 2024 16:20:59 GMT -5
If they allow picks to be traded, does that mean they will allow the players drafted to be traded right away, too? In the NBA, draft day trades usually involve the team drafting a player for another team. They don't actually trade the pick.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 17, 2024 16:23:59 GMT -5
You could also say the converse - what problem is solved by NOT allowing teams to trade picks? I think in the year 2024 we've reached a point that no team is going to just sell off its picks - every team has figured out the potential ROI of investing in the draft by now. I mean, there's always some owner out there who doesn't get it:
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Post by keninten on Jul 17, 2024 17:18:30 GMT -5
You could also say the converse - what problem is solved by NOT allowing teams to trade picks? I think in the year 2024 we've reached a point that no team is going to just sell off its picks - every team has figured out the potential ROI of investing in the draft by now. I mean, there's always some owner out there who doesn't get it: I`ve always thought of Danny Ainge as the GOAT of GMs. When he played he was a favorite but I always knew if he played on another team that I wouldn`t have liked him at all.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 17, 2024 19:44:51 GMT -5
You could also say the converse - what problem is solved by NOT allowing teams to trade picks? I think in the year 2024 we've reached a point that no team is going to just sell off its picks - every team has figured out the potential ROI of investing in the draft by now. I mean, there's always some owner out there who doesn't get it: These are the exceptions, not the rule. It would also be fun to see how the Angels can screw this up.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 17, 2024 20:00:33 GMT -5
I predict teams will mostly replace prospects in trades with draft picks, with the exception that high level prospects are worth a lot more than picks and so can’t be easily substituted. You don’t have to worry what the other side knows that you don’t with picks. Don't know if I agree with "mostly." Sometimes you're trading for a known quantity in a prospect, not just a player's value. Also, a lot of trades hinge on one team acquiring "MLB-ready" AA or AAA talent -- that is the opposite of a draft pick. Most draft picks aren't ready for several years, so they would represent a particular niche of value to include in a trade. What I envision as the most likely use of draft picks in trades is as sweetener. Say CB2 is trying to get Garrett Crochet to change Sox. Chicago asks for one of the big 3 plus Miguel Bleis. CB2 counters by offering a future 1st rounder instead of Bleis. Chicago counters by asking for that package plus a prospect from the bottom tier of Boston's top 30 or another 4th round pick, etc. Or maybe Chicago insists the 1st rounder has to be in the top 15, as is common in the NBA. CB2 counters by protecting it if it's top-6, etc.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 17, 2024 20:04:43 GMT -5
You could also say the converse - what problem is solved by NOT allowing teams to trade picks? I think in the year 2024 we've reached a point that no team is going to just sell off its picks - every team has figured out the potential ROI of investing in the draft by now. I mean, there's always some owner out there who doesn't get it: But nobody should be interested in stifling stupidity - the fact that teams can be so wrong sometimes is what makes the game fun. What's more important is stifling any type of nefarious behavior, which I don't think restricting the trade of draft picks really does.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jul 17, 2024 20:36:48 GMT -5
If I understood what problem would be solved if teams could trade draft picks, I'd be able to offer thoughts pro or con. Without that, I am opposed, the status quo works fine. Fair. I'll take a stab at it. 1) It would help facilitate trading. Teams value minor leaguers very differently which can sometimes create a holdup on trade discussions. Draft picks would potentially provide a more uniformly valued asset to use in deals. 2) The MLB Draft is boring as hell and they're trying to make it more of an event for fans. Knowing trades are potentially on the table could help generate a little more interest. 3) The MLB Draft is weird in the way that the best players don't necessarily get drafted in order. This might help make the talent distribution a little more uniform by allowing teams to trade up for players rather than the old "tell teams I have a crazy high bonus number in the hope I fall to pick X" thing that happens now and kind of defeats the point. You could also say the converse - what problem is solved by NOT allowing teams to trade picks? I think in the year 2024 we've reached a point that no team is going to just sell off its picks - every team has figured out the potential ROI of investing in the draft by now. Every time I've heard it discussed, there would be a limitation on the picks that can be traded - just the first round or the first 5 rounds or so. It would also require them to discuss how the bonus pool is affected, although the easy answer seems to be the pick's bonus money travels with the pick. I could see the potential draft day excitement. For instance if the Sox badly wanted Hagen Smith they could have offered the WS #12 and #50 for #5 when they saw Smith still available. That would be a fun element to the draft.
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