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Post by asm18 on Aug 3, 2024 21:25:04 GMT -5
Pivetta goes tomorrow - since July 1st: 29 innings, 4.34 ERA but 2.55 FIP. 44 K’s to 6 BB’s.
If Houck and Crawford are gonna be “try to gut through 5 innings and pray” guys for the immediate future,, Bello and Pivetta (the opening day starter and original #2 starter all the way back in Seattle) are gonna have to pick up the slack
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 3, 2024 21:41:31 GMT -5
Have to keep telling myself at least 60 nights a year end unhappy. The life of a baseball fan. True, that. I am OK if they just play like crap - but giving up a lead, errors, leaving men on, poor relief - those hurt more. And in a race for the playoffs, the impact of each loss gets magnified as the number of games remaining reduces.
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Post by wildsox on Aug 3, 2024 21:44:02 GMT -5
Did anyone see what happened with Duran?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 3, 2024 21:48:00 GMT -5
Did anyone see what happened with Duran? He seems to have pulled something in his side either swinging, or running full out to first. No news on whether this keeps him out. Cora didn't seem to think so in the after game interview.
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 3, 2024 22:18:19 GMT -5
I think it’s kind of fun that we are back to living and dying with every game, with dramatic swings about outlook. It’s a lot better than apathy, and laughing at trying to give away dollar tickets to a Yankees game.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 3, 2024 23:59:31 GMT -5
Houck is clearly right back in 2023 mode - looks like an ace for a few innings then he gets gassed and gives up two walks and three hits in an inning.
I remember at some point - I think it was under Francona - they'd make a point of getting every starter a little two week break somewhere in the middle of the season, either by skipping a start around the all star break or a phantom-ish DL or something. That was a good idea. They should do that again.
Either that or get creative: 6-man rotation, piggyback Criswell on 4-inning starts or something, I dunno.
Also unclear to me why Bernardino is still being used like a high-leverage guy; that hasn't been working for a while now.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 4, 2024 0:32:21 GMT -5
Houck is clearly right back in 2023 mode - looks like an ace for a few innings then he gets gassed and gives up two walks and three hits in an inning. I remember at some point - I think it was under Francona - they'd make a point of getting every starter a little two week break somewhere in the middle of the season, either by skipping a start around the all star break or a phantom-ish DL or something. That was a good idea. They should do that again. Either that or get creative: 6-man rotation, piggyback Criswell on 4-inning starts or something, I dunno. Also unclear to me why Bernardino is still being used like a high-leverage guy; that hasn't been working for a while now. Couldn’t agree more. Personally would have liked to have phantom IL Bernie or option him to get him back on track and replace him with Luetge, but he opted out today. Wouldn’t be shocked if same is done to Bernie when either Martin or Slaten have to be re-added.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 4, 2024 9:39:22 GMT -5
Going into today at 33% playoff chance according to Fangraph.
Today - Cole going for the MFY, Burnes for the Os vs Cle, Wacha for KC in Detroit, Twins at home against the deadSox, Rays at Houston, Phillies in Seattle with Gilbert against Wheeler.
Pivetta needs to nail it and we have to get to Nate.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 4, 2024 10:45:05 GMT -5
Not sure I love Duran trying to play 162 games now that he's dinged up
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Post by asm18 on Aug 4, 2024 11:21:55 GMT -5
Are they going to just stick him in hyperbaric chambers between games:
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Post by pappyman99 on Aug 4, 2024 11:24:17 GMT -5
Hope we can play .500 ball up to the Toronto series and then rip 6-7 in a row against Toronto and Detroit
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 4, 2024 11:29:17 GMT -5
I think a series win is always good enough, but today's game has extra importance if the Sox want a chance to catch the Royals with a sweep in the next series. Yeah, a must win today !!
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 4, 2024 11:38:27 GMT -5
Are they going to just stick him in hyperbaric chambers between games: No worries....Casas has given him a clean bill of health
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 4, 2024 11:42:51 GMT -5
O’Neill’s illness complicates the decision to rest or play Duran. Even with the short bench, though, there’s going to be a lot of second guessing here if Duran misses time with an oblique or other core issue.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 4, 2024 11:46:07 GMT -5
Hope we can play .500 ball up to the Toronto series and then rip 6-7 in a row against Toronto and Detroit That’s the hope. Really gotta take at least 2 out of 3 vs the Royals though.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 4, 2024 12:42:09 GMT -5
Cora pre-game:
"It’s getting to that time that we start thinking about getting to the bullpen in the 5th, being more aggressive, understanding how big every game is. ... It feels like every game means something more than a month ago."
I imagine we are going to see alot less of certain starters the 3rd time through
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Post by nomar on Aug 4, 2024 12:54:02 GMT -5
Cora pre-game: "It’s getting to that time that we start thinking about getting to the bullpen in the 5th, being more aggressive, understanding how big every game is. ... It feels like every game means something more than a month ago." I imagine we are going to see alot less of certain starters the 3rd time through The starters have made this the only choice for Cora anyway
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 4, 2024 12:54:47 GMT -5
Cora pre-game: "It’s getting to that time that we start thinking about getting to the bullpen in the 5th, being more aggressive, understanding how big every game is. ... It feels like every game means something more than a month ago." I imagine we are going to see alot less of certain starters the 3rd time through The starters have made this the only choice for Cora anyway And vice versa
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 4, 2024 12:55:43 GMT -5
Cora pre-game: "It’s getting to that time that we start thinking about getting to the bullpen in the 5th, being more aggressive, understanding how big every game is. ... I t feels like every game means something more than a month ago." I imagine we are going to see alot less of certain starters the 3rd time through So how does that work....losses early in the season don't count? Must be some new analytics
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Post by asm18 on Aug 4, 2024 13:04:18 GMT -5
Cora pre-game: "It’s getting to that time that we start thinking about getting to the bullpen in the 5th, being more aggressive, understanding how big every game is. ... I t feels like every game means something more than a month ago." I imagine we are going to see alot less of certain starters the 3rd time through So how does that work....losses early in the season don't count? Must be some new analytics It’s not realistic to go balls-to-the-wall with aggressive bullpen usage for 6 straight months. We begin the stretch run soon enough
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 4, 2024 13:07:26 GMT -5
So how does that work....losses early in the season don't count? Must be some new analytics It’s not realistic to go balls-to-the-wall with aggressive bullpen usage for 6 straight months. We begin the stretch run soon enough missed my point. It wasn't about bullpen usage but rather the math of early vs late wins/losses
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Post by cba82 on Aug 4, 2024 13:15:42 GMT -5
It’s not realistic to go balls-to-the-wall with aggressive bullpen usage for 6 straight months. We begin the stretch run soon enough missed my point. It wasn't about bullpen usage but rather the math of early vs late wins/losses 1 game of 53 remaining on August 4 is different than 1 game of 162 on March 28.
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Post by blizzards39 on Aug 4, 2024 13:24:02 GMT -5
missed my point. It wasn't about bullpen usage but rather the math of early vs late wins/losses 1 game of 53 remaining on August 4 is different than 1 game of 162 on March 28. And theoretically the pen is getting deeper. Also hopefully dont need an opener any time soon (further taxing pen)
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 4, 2024 13:24:29 GMT -5
missed my point. It wasn't about bullpen usage but rather the math of early vs late wins/losses 1 game of 53 remaining on August 4 is different than 1 game of 162 on March 28. Seriously? Are you suggesting that if the Sox are a game shy of the wild-card on the final day of the season that the losses early in the season didn't have any impact?
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Post by incandenza on Aug 4, 2024 13:37:54 GMT -5
1 game of 53 remaining on August 4 is different than 1 game of 162 on March 28. Seriously? Are you suggesting that if the Sox are a game shy of the wild-card on the final day of the season that the losses early in the season didn't have any impact? Cora wasn't talking about math, he was talking about a sense of urgency. He literally said "It feels like..."
By the same taken, a run in the first inning counts the same as a run in the ninth, but if you're down by one run in the ninth that run feels a lot more important.
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