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8/30-9/1 Red Sox @ Tigers Series Thread
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 31, 2024 21:22:51 GMT -5
Tigers will be dreaming of a division title this offseason. They're only trading Skubal if they think the other team is being stupid.
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TearsIn04
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Post by TearsIn04 on Aug 31, 2024 21:33:42 GMT -5
Gotta catch fly balls that you don’t have to dive for, that’s all I got on this one If they wanted to give up Marcelo+ for Skubal I’d be ok with it I had the same thought today about a Skubal offer starting with MM. But I think it would take a lot more than that. The Tigers would probably ask for something like Perales, Bleis and someone in the 11-20 range. I can't imagine that the two teams don't have at least a casual discussion about a trade like this during the coming off-season. The Red Sox are jammed with candidates to fill the MI spots in the next few years, especially since the Story ball-and-chain contract will be hard to move without a significant subsidy. Grissom and Campbell will probably be competing for 2B at some point next season and behind them you have the revived Mikey Romero. It's also hard to dismiss Chase Meidroth and his nutty .450 OBP. If David Hamilton takes another step forward he could make himself a viable starting 2B candidate, at least against RH P. He already has one extreme skill set in his speed. And if the Red Sox are able to add an impact RH bat in the OF, that would probably put Little Raffy in the conversation as the 2B in 2025. Skubal is a Boras guy, so he isn't signing a deal that takes him past 2027 unless it's ridiculously lucrative in years and money. Think about something like the deal DD gave Pedro, convert it to today's dollars and you're in the neighborhood of what it would take to buy out the rest of Skubal's cost-controlled years.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 31, 2024 22:50:51 GMT -5
Raffy needs to turn the page on August - .226-4-11 (not counting today)
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 31, 2024 23:35:07 GMT -5
Tbh yall, I don’t there’s a shot in hell the Tigers trade Skubal this offseason. They’ve shown they can be competitive. Don’t see him going anywhere unless they completely tank next season.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 1, 2024 0:35:12 GMT -5
Raffy needs to turn the page on August - .226-4-11 (not counting today) No he doesn’t, my man has been perfect in the role of TANK COMMANDER. Get that pick as high as possible!
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Post by asm18 on Sept 1, 2024 6:18:01 GMT -5
Raffy needs to turn the page on August - .226-4-11 (not counting today) No he doesn’t, my man has been perfect in the role of TANK COMMANDER. Get that pick as high as possible! I know a lot of folks have (understandably) given hope up on this year - or never had any to begin with - but I don’t understand why tanking and hoping the lottery balls land a certain way is seen as a rational strategy, while trying to overcome a 3.5 game deficit against a team you play in 3 weeks is looked upon by many with utter fatalism. In either scenario you’re hoping to get some luck Did not realize until looking at Tankathon that the White Sox will be compensated with the worst season of all time by not being eligible for a Top 10 pick - yikes
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 1, 2024 8:20:24 GMT -5
During last night's Detroit broadcast, they did a couple of innings with Trammel and Whitaker as guests. What a pleasure to listen in on. The all time double play combo by a longshot. Imagine if the Sox had 19 years of the likes of these two rather than the perpetual revolving door that has been the keystone combo.
Even during the interview, the two fed off each other.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 1, 2024 8:25:47 GMT -5
At least we'll know by dinner time whether the Sox chipped away at the deficit. Kind of a "gotta win" game today.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 1, 2024 8:27:20 GMT -5
During last night's Detroit broadcast, they did a couple of innings with Trammel and Whitaker as guests. What a pleasure to listen in on. The all time double play combo by a longshot. Imagine if the Sox had 19 years of the likes of these two rather than the perpetual revolving door that has been the keystone combo. Even during the interview, the two fed off each other. Whitaker should get more HOF consideration. Wonder if Chet Lemon was able to attend the festivities yesterday. I remember that 1984 Tigers team well.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 1, 2024 8:46:08 GMT -5
During last night's Detroit broadcast, they did a couple of innings with Trammel and Whitaker as guests. What a pleasure to listen in on. The all time double play combo by a longshot. Imagine if the Sox had 19 years of the likes of these two rather than the perpetual revolving door that has been the keystone combo. Even during the interview, the two fed off each other. Whitaker should get more HOF consideration. Wonder if Chet Lemon was able to attend the festivities yesterday. I remember that 1984 Tigers team well. My all time favorite Tiger is Kaline but that was way before 1984. I don't recall Chet Lemon being mentioned but he might have been, they flashed a lot of videos. If you are at all a 80's baseball history fan, watching their broadcast, especially the pre-game is worth your time.
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Sept 1, 2024 9:47:57 GMT -5
September Baseball begins. Yet we're still 3.5 back as all AL WC teams lost last night (including the Mariners). The Mariners, Tigers, and Rays remain closer to the Sox than the Sox are to the Twins. Pure .500 ball is not going to cut it. Aspiring to general .500 ball plus winning a series now and then (Cora-ball) is not going to cut it. They need some sweeps or at this rate, it's quite possible both the Sox and the Twins will be on the outside looking in come October. We have 26 games left. *** Trivia - while some noted the Twins and Royals play more games against the CWS, and have gone 1-12 against them, the Sox are 2-2 with 3 games remaining. Amazingly, that's not the worst record for teams against the CWS. . .but the Sox have made their own bed to some extent. Games like this will happen: www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA202406070.shtmlBut they should not be followed by games like this: www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA202406080.shtml
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 1, 2024 10:02:45 GMT -5
During last night's Detroit broadcast, they did a couple of innings with Trammel and Whitaker as guests. What a pleasure to listen in on. The all time double play combo by a longshot. Imagine if the Sox had 19 years of the likes of these two rather than the perpetual revolving door that has been the keystone combo. Even during the interview, the two fed off each other. Whitaker should get more HOF consideration. Sweet Lou put up 75.1 B-Ref WAR and a 117 OPS+. It's too bad guys like Whitaker, Dewey Evans and Luis Tiant are omitted and guys like George Kell, Phill Rizzuto, Bill Mazeroski, Tony Oliva and Harold Baines are in.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 1, 2024 10:13:54 GMT -5
Tbh yall, I don’t there’s a shot in hell the Tigers trade Skubal this offseason. They’ve shown they can be competitive. Don’t see him going anywhere unless they completely tank next season. Yeah, I have to agree with this. Unless a team puts together a package that's outright stupid, the Tigers aren't trading arguably the best P in BB who's in his prime and has three-controlled years left. His arb numbers will get big, but nothing the Tigers can't handle. I mentioned a package of MM, Bleis, Perales and one lesser prospect. I wouldn't accept that if I were the Tigers but I'd love it from the RS standpoint. It would probably take an offer with two of the Big 4 just to get the Tigers to keep returning phone calls.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 1, 2024 10:17:19 GMT -5
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Post by carmenfanzone on Sept 1, 2024 11:13:50 GMT -5
During last night's Detroit broadcast, they did a couple of innings with Trammel and Whitaker as guests. What a pleasure to listen in on. The all time double play combo by a longshot. Imagine if the Sox had 19 years of the likes of these two rather than the perpetual revolving door that has been the keystone combo. Even during the interview, the two fed off each other. Whitaker should get more HOF consideration. Wonder if Chet Lemon was able to attend the festivities yesterday. I remember that 1984 Tigers team well. There is a very long article ion today's Detroit Free Press about Chet Lemon. Unfortunately, he has suffered a series of debilitating strokes which have left him unable to take care of himself and largely unable to speak. The good news is that he has family around him that continues to support him. Apparently, he was able to attend the festivities yesterday even in his condition.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 1, 2024 11:44:05 GMT -5
Whitaker should get more HOF consideration. Wonder if Chet Lemon was able to attend the festivities yesterday. I remember that 1984 Tigers team well. There is a very long article ion today's Detroit Free Press about Chet Lemon. Unfortunately, he has suffered a series of debilitating strokes which have left him unable to take care of himself and largely unable to speak. The good news is that he has family around him that continues to support him. Apparently, he was able to attend the festivities yesterday even in his condition. Yeah I read that article and the hope was that he'd make it there. Sounds like he did. Glad to hear that. Hope that was a spirit lifter for him. I remember that team. The core started in the late 70s and by the 80s matured into that 1 dominant season the way their Tigers predecessors of the 60s grew into that dominant 1968 season after the near miss pennant race of 1967. That team had their last gasp in 1972 edging out the Sox for the East. The core of Kaline, Horton, Stanley, Northrup, Cash, Lolich, and McAuliffe were phased out. McLain had already been dealt. Eventually in their places came Trammell, Whitaker, Parrish, Brookens, Gibson, Morris, and Petry. Eventually pieces like Hernon, Lemon, Wilcox, and Berenguer were added. Willie Hernandez and Darrell Evans were the big adds for 1984, and they blossomed under Sparky Anderson whom the Reds foolishly let go. Like the Tigers winning in 1968, Detroit got off to that 35-5 start and easily won the division and had a lot less struggle in the post season than the 68 team who had to come from 3 games to 1 down to win as the 84 edition swept KC and beat the upstart Padres managed by Dick William's in 5 games. I remember Williams ordering Goose Gossage to walk Kirk Gibson and Gossage talking Williams out of that strategy and then Kirk Gibson hitting a towering HR to out the clinching game put of reach. I remember Hernandez getting Tony Gwynn to fly out to Herndon in LF to give the Tigers their championship. Cant believe that happened 40 years ago! Like their predecessors before them, the Tigers had 1 last gasp, stealing the division away from Toronto on the final day of the 1987 season. Their acquisition of Doyle Alexander, who went 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA made the difference, but it did cost them....some prospect named John Smoltz. They blew the division title in 88 to Morgan Magic's Red Sox and then collapsed, reaching a nadir of 119 losses in 2003 before Dave Dombrowski built them back up to become an AL Central power for about a decade.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 1, 2024 12:25:44 GMT -5
ESPN stats page WAR
Duran jumped ahead of Witt, sits behind only Judge. 9.8 vs 8.8.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 1, 2024 12:45:07 GMT -5
Done in 8 pitches.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 1, 2024 13:03:49 GMT -5
Abreu is so useless against lefties, but it's also probably too early to PH there even though it's a scoring chance.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 1, 2024 13:23:28 GMT -5
This is just a terrible time of the season for our bats to go ice cold. All opposing pitchers are now seemingly in the Cy Young mold.
I would hate for another really good start to be wasted. Cooper has been great.
So far, this is simply sad.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 1, 2024 13:34:36 GMT -5
This has the potential to be one of the fastest games of the modern era.
White Sox 2, Mariners 1: Played on April 16, 2005, this game lasted 1 hour and 39 minutes Tigers 3, Royals 0: Played on July 24, 2002, this game lasted 1 hour and 41 minutes Cubs 3, Reds 0: Played on May 24, 2001, this game lasted 1 hour and 48 minutes Red Sox vs Cleveland Guardians: Played in April 2024, this game lasted 1 hour and 49 minutes
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 1, 2024 13:37:26 GMT -5
Give me some runs !!!!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 1, 2024 13:41:39 GMT -5
Duran Delivers. Of course he does!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 1, 2024 13:41:44 GMT -5
Of course, it is Duran.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 1, 2024 13:42:16 GMT -5
Sounds positively Shakespearean!
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