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Post by philarhody on Sept 15, 2024 14:26:01 GMT -5
I’d just play small with a Jones and let Gonzalez shadow the X. |
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Post by philarhody on Sept 15, 2024 14:53:41 GMT -5
Jacoby has been fine-ish in this game. Let’s see if he can step it up here.
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Post by Montana Lemonious-Craig on Sept 15, 2024 14:56:19 GMT -5
Jacoby’s getting crushed out there. He’s not long for this season
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Post by philarhody on Sept 15, 2024 14:56:25 GMT -5
Jacoby has been fine-ish in this game. Let’s see if he can step it up here. Eh |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 15, 2024 14:59:43 GMT -5
Terrible coaching by Seattle.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 15, 2024 15:12:07 GMT -5
Winnable game - but not with Jacoby
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 15, 2024 15:35:40 GMT -5
Jayden Daniels and MHJ had/having good days. Excited to see what they have in Maye.
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Post by cdj on Sept 15, 2024 15:51:52 GMT -5
Don’t understand the Brissett blame, line was trash. He did a good job extending plays despite that, particularly early in the game.
Sucks the refs decided to insert themselves into the game in OT
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Post by philarhody on Sept 15, 2024 16:28:01 GMT -5
Don’t understand the Brissett blame, line was trash. He did a good job extending plays despite that, particularly early in the game. Sucks the refs decided to insert themselves into the game in OT 1. “Blame” is too strong a word for describing Jacoby’s play today. “Jacoby’s play wasn’t good enough to win” is a more apt description. 2. “Trash” is too strong a word for describing the line play today. “The offensive line was a juggernaut in the run and adequate in the pass” is a more apt description. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 15, 2024 16:48:24 GMT -5
Brissett plays to not lose his job, which is all Mac had to do last year. Their blueprint is to run heavily with Stevenson, conservative passing and strong defense.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 15, 2024 17:03:56 GMT -5
Brissett plays like Brissett plays. What else do people expect from him?!? This is who he is and he’s doing a good job of it behind a terrible line. Can’t blame the man for being what he is. It’s not like he’s making trash plays, he just can’t make elevated plays.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 15, 2024 17:21:27 GMT -5
This isn't who Brissett is though, he's way down yards per attempt and his QB rating is down from career averages. Absolutely nothing like the tape I watched of him playing on Browns.
They aren't throwing vertically. Sure you can make excuses, but they aren't even trying.
They hardly even tried targeting a WR and per announcers that was by design. What Douglas has one target in two games?
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 15, 2024 18:10:21 GMT -5
This isn't who Brissett is though, he's way down yards per attempt and his QB rating is down from career averages. Absolutely nothing like the tape I watched of him playing on Browns. They aren't throwing vertically. Sure you can make excuses, but they aren't even trying. They hardly even tried targeting a WR and per announcers that was by design. What Douglas has one target in two games? Jacoby is JAG who doesn’t turn the ball over. His YPA are down but this is a different team. The pass blocking is terrible and we don’t have great receivers. It’s hard to take shots down the field. I’m sure they’ll get better at it but that’s something they need to build on. And it is hard for Douglas to get open when teams crowd the part of the field he operates. Did anyone really expect them to score more than 20 very often? |
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Post by cdj on Sept 15, 2024 18:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 15, 2024 18:32:43 GMT -5
This isn't who Brissett is though, he's way down yards per attempt and his QB rating is down from career averages. Absolutely nothing like the tape I watched of him playing on Browns. They aren't throwing vertically. Sure you can make excuses, but they aren't even trying. They hardly even tried targeting a WR and per announcers that was by design. What Douglas has one target in two games? Jacoby is JAG who doesn’t turn the ball over. His YPA are down but this is a different team. The pass blocking is terrible and we don’t have great receivers. It’s hard to take shots down the field. I’m sure they’ll get better at it but that’s something they need to build on. And it is hard for Douglas to get open when teams crowd the part of the field he operates. Did anyone really expect them to score more than 20 very often? We for example have no clue what our receivers can do given this play calling. Your point on Douglas is 100% the point, if you don't pass deep, teams crowd box making passing even harder. We aren't doing our OL any favors, instead making it harder on them. Let's be real, lots of teams have OL issues and still throw the ball down the field! I don't really care about results, it's getting everything ready for Maye. This isn't how you get things ready for him! Let's be honest, with perfect weather conditions, have you ever seen a team target WR less in a game? |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 15, 2024 19:04:48 GMT -5
Jacob thinks they are doing something that is tipping the opponents when they wanted to go long. Every time they wanted to do it, he felt Seattle was prepared so he went elsewhere.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 15, 2024 20:02:53 GMT -5
Brissett plays like Brissett plays. What else do people expect from him?!? This is who he is and he’s doing a good job of it behind a terrible line. Can’t blame the man for being what he is. It’s not like he’s making trash plays, he just can’t make elevated plays. I strongly agree with this, just want to add that Jacoby had two chances to win the game and couldn’t get it done. Fair or unfair to judge him by it given the sh*t OL, questionable or inexperienced WRs and still adjusting offense play calling, at the end of the day it is what it is. He’s just a bridge for us to cross into the sea of awesomeness that will be Maye. The second the line is even halfway passable, Drake should really start. |
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Post by cdj on Sept 15, 2024 21:33:27 GMT -5
Brissett plays like Brissett plays. What else do people expect from him?!? This is who he is and he’s doing a good job of it behind a terrible line. Can’t blame the man for being what he is. It’s not like he’s making trash plays, he just can’t make elevated plays. I strongly agree with this, just want to add that Jacoby had two chances to win the game and couldn’t get it done. Fair or unfair to judge him by it given the sh*t OL, questionable or inexperienced WRs and still adjusting offense play calling, at the end of the day it is what it is. He’s just a bridge for us to cross into the sea of awesomeness that will be Maye. The second the line is even halfway passable, Drake should really start. Totally agree, they aren’t there yet tho. Not close. Don’t need Drake feeling heat on half his drop backs. Maybe by week 7/8 |
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 15, 2024 21:45:34 GMT -5
Caleb Williams has legit terrible pocket presence, bro is a headless chicken in the field right now. This makes me feel better about Drake not starting yet.
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Post by cdj on Sept 16, 2024 8:28:06 GMT -5
So yeah I don’t think “Trash” is too strong of a word to describe the line yesterday. Hell even their rushing yards have been more about the spectacular play of the RB’s than the blocking itself. Gibson had to shed multiple tackles to bust his run, he was dead in the water in the backfield. Stevenson had over 100 yards after contact last week iirc. They are in fact quite bad. Onwenu and Andrews are good, Robinson seems better in run blocking rn, and the left side is just bad |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 16, 2024 9:47:28 GMT -5
The Patriots line is arguably the worst in football so it’s not like we are simply talking about a below average line. They give up pressure on over 44% of passing attempts, second worst in football and their run blocking isn’t much better.
Sadly, despite White, defensively they aren’t getting much pressure either. They really miss Barmore.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 16, 2024 11:55:17 GMT -5
So yeah I don’t think “Trash” is too strong of a word to describe the line yesterday. Hell even their rushing yards have been more about the spectacular play of the RB’s than the blocking itself. Gibson had to shed multiple tackles to bust his run, he was dead in the water in the backfield. Stevenson had over 100 yards after contact last week iirc. They are in fact quite bad. Onwenu and Andrews are good, Robinson seems better in run blocking rn, and the left side is just bad Funny I'm watching Brissett literally cause the issues in that video by rolling right. If he stayed in the pocket, it's clean and he easily hits Henry. Now either he just did that and it's on him, call it poor luck or Lowe really messes up, sending defender outside and not inside. Which do you think it is? I also really don't describe a 5 to 10 yard route as down field passing either. |
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Post by cdj on Sept 16, 2024 12:02:12 GMT -5
So yeah I don’t think “Trash” is too strong of a word to describe the line yesterday. Hell even their rushing yards have been more about the spectacular play of the RB’s than the blocking itself. Gibson had to shed multiple tackles to bust his run, he was dead in the water in the backfield. Stevenson had over 100 yards after contact last week iirc. They are in fact quite bad. Onwenu and Andrews are good, Robinson seems better in run blocking rn, and the left side is just bad Funny I'm watching Brissett literally cause the issues in that video by rolling right. If he stayed in the pocket, it's clean and he easily hits Henry. Now either he just did that and it's on him, call it poor luck or Lowe really messes up, sending defender outside and not inside. Which do you think it is? I also really don't describe a 5 to 10 yard route as down field passing either. I think it was designed for him to roll like that initially. Lowe just got smoked |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 16, 2024 12:10:22 GMT -5
Let's see do the Patriots have a guy you can throw 50-50 balls to and let him make a play? Yeah time to insert Javon Baker and let him do what he does. Do a short one like 20 yards, so no matter the pressure the QB quickly gets it out. I'd also use it in those jumbo packages, really start messing with other teams D.
If he drops some I don't care, those types of guys are usually low catch rate guys to begin with. It's about hitting big plays and getting the D to adjust.
Heck throw in some screens to slowdown the pass rush, we've seen that for 20 years. Maybe go extreme and use 4 and 5 WRs. It's like we have forgot what a good OC like Josh McDaniels can do. I really do miss him, he even made us believe Mac Jones didn't fully suck.
A bunch of you are giving the coaching staff a pass and blaming everything on the OL. The truth is more likely a combo of both. With the way they have able to run, it should make passing much easier.
Caleb Williams has zero running game and was sacked 7 times in one game!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 16, 2024 12:15:11 GMT -5
Funny I'm watching Brissett literally cause the issues in that video by rolling right. If he stayed in the pocket, it's clean and he easily hits Henry. Now either he just did that and it's on him, call it poor luck or Lowe really messes up, sending defender outside and not inside. Which do you think it is? I also really don't describe a 5 to 10 yard route as down field passing either. I think it was designed for him to roll like that initially. Lowe just got smoked I watched it again, that's not Lowe, that's Hunter Henry. If that roll is by design it's a crazy stupid play. Your expect a TE to block the DE as you move into that area and then go catch the pass? More like Henry job was to slow him down, then go catch pass. He did a great job at that, if Brissett doesn't go right. |
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