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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 6, 2013 19:15:58 GMT -5
Just got out of softball, logged on to see picks.
Ball isn't bad but I'm pretty disappointed
Guess we weren't that high on meadows.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jun 6, 2013 19:16:34 GMT -5
Seriously, how can you not love having a 6'6" lefty in your system with a HUGE ceiling who as BP says has the "potential for three + offerings" Love it.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 6, 2013 19:17:03 GMT -5
What kills me the most is that the Yanks have a chance to take 3 guys that are about as exciting as Ball.... The Red Sox had a lot of excitement in 2011 which is why they were picking 7th in the 2013 MlB draft.
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Post by psusox14 on Jun 6, 2013 19:18:46 GMT -5
Baseball prospectus says his fastball has topped out at 96, significantly higher than 93. They also put future 60 grades on all three of his fast, curve, and change. I really like this pick as a high risk, high reward guy. Ball seems to have good character, a good baseball (better basketball) name, and may have the potential to be an ace with 3 plus pitches and plus command as a lefty.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 6, 2013 19:18:56 GMT -5
In case anyone was wondering, Ball is one of the oldest high school players, he turns 19 at the end of June.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 6, 2013 19:21:19 GMT -5
So, probably debuts as 9th on this site's list?
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Post by nomar on Jun 6, 2013 19:21:38 GMT -5
What kills me the most is that the Yanks have a chance to take 3 guys that are about as exciting as Ball.... The Red Sox had a lot of excitement in 2011 which is why they were picking 7th in the 2013 MlB draft. How would the 2011 draft have anything to do with our pick in this years draft? Wtf
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Post by bluechip on Jun 6, 2013 19:22:34 GMT -5
Is Ball the youngest HS pitcher in this draft class? He is one of the oldest.
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Post by charliezink16 on Jun 6, 2013 19:22:52 GMT -5
So now we have what, seven Mark Hendrickson's in the system?
On a more serious note, is there any chance Boston gives Ball a shot in the outfield? I recall someone mentioning that some scouts liked him as a hitter more than on the mound. Secondly, I highly doubt they will sign him for underslot. Considering Johnson signed for slot and Marrero went overslot, I doubt a high caliber kid with a full-ride to Texas is taking much under slot. Thoughts?
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Post by TheCerebral1 on Jun 6, 2013 19:24:20 GMT -5
In case anyone was wondering, Ball is one of the oldest high school players, he turns 19 at the end of June. Splitting hairs here. Adding (LHP), to the mix is fine. I am completely okay with it. Shipley is another guy that fits a need.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jun 6, 2013 19:24:55 GMT -5
BC Presser: Reporter: Ben, why did you select Ball? BC: our scouting staff likes him a lot. We were surprised he fell to us at 7. That was a silly question. What is he supposed to say, that he drew the name out of a hat. Must have been Shaughnessy!
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 6, 2013 19:25:16 GMT -5
Another serious question, is he squeezable so that they can push for additional money or get next years' 7th?
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Post by ramireja on Jun 6, 2013 19:25:25 GMT -5
Okay, perhaps I was being a little dramatic. Ball just feels like a tier below what we should have picked at No. 7, but in fairness, his upside is high and I hadn't done as much research on Ball as I had other picks.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 6, 2013 19:25:58 GMT -5
I know people love Shipley but it seems like the Red Sox weren't the only ones perhaps a bit lower than the internet consensus.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 6, 2013 19:27:15 GMT -5
So now we have what, seven Mark Hendrickson's in the system? On a more serious note, is there any chance Boston gives Ball a shot in the outfield? I recall someone mentioning that some scouts liked him as a hitter more than on the mound. Secondly, I highly doubt they will sign him for underslot. Considering Johnson signed for slot and Marrero went overslot, I doubt a high caliber kid with a full-ride to Texas is taking much under slot. Thoughts? I also don't think he will go under slot, although even 200k under slot would come in handy.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 6, 2013 19:28:24 GMT -5
There is a real difference between the interviews with the high school kids and the college kids. The college kids are just so much more confident and relaxed in front of the camera.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 6, 2013 19:29:06 GMT -5
He isn't going under-slot most probably. He's not a reach at 7th.
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Post by azblue on Jun 6, 2013 19:30:09 GMT -5
When did it become a bad thing to draft an 18-year-old lefty who is 6-5 or 6-6 and has three potential plus pitches and is very projectable because he "only" pitches at 91-93 and touches 96? Also, "disappointment" expressed about a prospect who no one on this board has seen pitch when the Red Sox have devoted all of their resources to ranking the players on the board is more of an expression of unmet expectations than real criticism.
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Post by charliezink16 on Jun 6, 2013 19:30:26 GMT -5
There is a real difference between the interviews with the high school kids and the college kids. The college kids are just so much more confident and relaxed in front of the camera. Yeah I enjoyed that interview with Peterson. Had no idea what was being discussed though. Anyone, anyone?
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Post by theolearyfactor on Jun 6, 2013 19:33:29 GMT -5
Not trying to get too ahead of ourselves here but the thought of a Lowell rotation spearheaded by Ball, Callahan, and Buttrey is intriguing.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jun 6, 2013 19:33:32 GMT -5
So now we have what, seven Mark Hendrickson's in the system? On a more serious note, is there any chance Boston gives Ball a shot in the outfield? I recall someone mentioning that some scouts liked him as a hitter more than on the mound. Secondly, I highly doubt they will sign him for underslot. Considering Johnson signed for slot and Marrero went overslot, I doubt a high caliber kid with a full-ride to Texas is taking much under slot. Thoughts? As mentioned earlier, if he declines an underslot offer, the Sox can select again next year in approx. the same spot. It all depends on how badly Sawdaye & Co. want him and whether Ben has a bigger picture.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 6, 2013 19:34:18 GMT -5
Law's grades for Ball are not impressive: Fastball: 55/55 FB Movement:50/50 Command:35/50 Curveball: 40/50 The Red Sox better have more hope for that Curveball and change up developing. His dad wouldn't let him throw a curveball until he was a junior in high school to save his arm. And baseballprosepectus has him ranked higher: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20615
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Post by awall on Jun 6, 2013 19:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by azblue on Jun 6, 2013 19:40:26 GMT -5
Amsinger is even worse than Harold Reynolds. He is a male version of a valley girl.
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Post by azblue on Jun 6, 2013 19:43:05 GMT -5
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