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Post by mainesox on Jun 6, 2013 20:11:03 GMT -5
Stanek is dropping like a lead balloon. If the Tigers or A's don't draft him he could fall to the end of the 1st round. Those Daniel Bard comp surely couldn't have helped. I would be shocked if he got there, but I certainly wouldn't mind him at 45.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Jun 6, 2013 20:11:12 GMT -5
Can you give us non BA members a few tidbits.....
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Post by burythehammer on Jun 6, 2013 20:11:48 GMT -5
His real name is Ronald?
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Post by bjb406 on Jun 6, 2013 20:13:18 GMT -5
Stanek is dropping like a lead balloon. If the Tigers or A's don't draft him he could fall to the end of the 1st round. Those Daniel Bard comp surely couldn't have helped. I would be shocked if he got there, but I certainly wouldn't mind him at 45. The yankees pick 3 times before then.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 6, 2013 20:15:35 GMT -5
This draft is setting up well for the Hankees. Kaminsky, one of the college OFers and Denney and they would be thrilled. If Stanek fell to them, I'd be pissed.
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Post by jimoh on Jun 6, 2013 20:17:37 GMT -5
Is he Ronald Something Ball III?
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Post by bighead on Jun 6, 2013 20:17:48 GMT -5
If Owen's ceiling is a 2/3 starter on a first division team as this site states and Trey Ball compares favorably to Owens as this site states then it seems to me like a pretty decent pick. Law had him going 8 and he went 7 so this ain't a reach.
Are there any guys they passed on who are clearly a better pick or is this outrage a matter of preference? If you were told the Sox would walk away with a potential front of the rotation starter without being told it was Ball would you be satisfied?
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 6, 2013 20:18:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't pick Stank at 45. He projects as as middle reliever with control issues with his command rated at 40. h alo doesn't miss many bats and his BABIP of.205 is not sustainable.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 6, 2013 20:20:09 GMT -5
If Owen's ceiling is a 2/3 starter on a first division team as this site states and Trey Ball compares favorably to Owens as this site states then it seems to me like a pretty decent pick. Law had him going 8 and he went 7 so this ain't a reach. Are there any guys they passed on who are clearly a better pick or is this outrage a matter of preference? If you were told the Sox would walk away with a potential front of the rotation starter without being told it was Ball would you be satisfied? yup
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 6, 2013 20:21:38 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Appel was a 3rd round pick. Would he be a reach at 45?
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Post by awall on Jun 6, 2013 20:23:31 GMT -5
Of course it's mostly preference. I wanted to see them get Shipley, similar projections as a 2/3 starter, low mileage arm, but with a already impressive change. I think he was a safer pick and could have been helping the big club sooner. I only know what I read online ans saw on YouTube, but it wouldn't be much fun following this stuff if we didn't all have our own opinions, right?
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Post by rcmark on Jun 6, 2013 20:24:15 GMT -5
Aarrgghh, these guys on the MLB Network broadcast are awful!!!
Now that I got that off my chest, I like the pick. Hard to argue with 6'6" athletic lefty with the chance for three plus pitches.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 6, 2013 20:26:49 GMT -5
Alex Speier ?@alexspeier 19s Trey Ball on pro vs college: Open to anything but 'I feel Boston is right for me'
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Post by bighead on Jun 6, 2013 20:28:36 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Appel was a 3rd round pick. Would he be a reach at 45? No, but call Keith Law "read somewhere" is a reach.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 6, 2013 20:36:18 GMT -5
I love Marco Gonzales at 19 to Cards (where I mocked, so i at least got that right). You just know he is going to be a solid starter in this league soon and for a long time.
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Post by azblue on Jun 6, 2013 20:36:20 GMT -5
I could understand disappointment in the pick if it was a high-floor college guy, but this is a tall, projectable, very athletic HS left-hander. You don't have to be in love with the kid based on that alone, but the Sox spend more on scouting than most, and were surely prepared for, as mentioned earlier, the board blowing up. They like Ball better than Meadows, than Shipley, or anyone else available. He's not a safe pick, no more than those mentioned, or Dom Smith, or any other intriguing upside names. They took a huge chance on the guy they clearly like better than anyone else on the board. That should have you intrigued, not disappointed. They've done a lot more homework than we have, than BA, or Callis or Mayo or BP has. That's not to say they're right, but give them credit for taking a chance on upside and athleticism. How dare you be rational and logical.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 6, 2013 20:37:24 GMT -5
the MLB Network is having a Moneyball debate. Mayo is walking Reynolds through the basics.
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Post by mjammz on Jun 6, 2013 20:39:10 GMT -5
Wow the Giants with the biggest reach of the night.. you can see why Ben Cherington loads up on good shortstops when they have the chance.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 6, 2013 20:39:56 GMT -5
Evan Drellich ? evandrellich 8s Trey Ball: "It's kind of surprising, I mean I had no idea what was coming. I guess it was a last-minute decision, I'm not for sure."
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 6, 2013 20:40:28 GMT -5
the MLB Network is having a Moneyball debate. Mayo is walking Reynolds through the basics. Did Bud Selig's repeated description of this as the 2000 draft throw these guys? Is this whole draft running a "retro" theme or something?
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Post by jhenrywaugh, prop. on Jun 6, 2013 20:40:30 GMT -5
I could understand disappointment in the pick if it was a high-floor college guy, but this is a tall, projectable, very athletic HS left-hander. You don't have to be in love with the kid based on that alone, but the Sox spend more on scouting than most, and were surely prepared for, as mentioned earlier, the board blowing up. They like Ball better than Meadows, than Shipley, or anyone else available. He's not a safe pick, no more than those mentioned, or Dom Smith, or any other intriguing upside names. They took a huge chance on the guy they clearly like better than anyone else on the board. That should have you intrigued, not disappointed. They've done a lot more homework than we have, than BA, or Callis or Mayo or BP has. That's not to say they're right, but give them credit for taking a chance on upside and athleticism. How dare you be rational and logical. Sorry, a gut reaction. Apologies, this is not the place for it.
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Post by azblue on Jun 6, 2013 20:40:44 GMT -5
Who is worse? Harold Reynolds Greg Amsinger or the knucklehead standing at the BA draft board with Jim Callis? It's a horse race.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 6, 2013 20:41:43 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Appel was a 3rd round pick. Would he be a reach at 45? No, but call Keith Law "read somewhere" is a reach. I should have put that in italics apparently....and it certainly wasn't Keith Law. Think more locally.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 6, 2013 20:43:13 GMT -5
Who is worse? Harold Reynolds Greg Amsinger or the knucklehead standing at the BA draft board with Jim Callis? It's a horse race. I think Reynolds is winning.
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 6, 2013 20:43:51 GMT -5
19 picks out, here is my board (BA rankings)
Top 12 (in order) RHP Ryne Stanek, Arkansas (13) LHP Rob Kaminsky, St. Joseph HS (NJ) (21) OF Austin Wilson, Stanford (29) LHP Sean Manaea, Indiana State (18) LHP Ian Clarkin, James Madison HS (CA) (17) RHP Alex Balog, San Francisco (32) OF Aaron Judge, Fresno State (30) OF Phillip Ervin, Samford (23) C Jonathan Denney, Yukon HS (OK) (25) RHP Ryan Eades, Louisiana State (37) RHP Andrew Thurman, UC-Irvine (44)
Others OF Josh Hart, Parkview HS (GA) (57) OF Ryan Boldt, Red Wing HS (MN) (58) OF Cord Sandberg, Manatee HS (FL) (40) OF Michael Lorenzen, Cal-State Fullerton (52) 3B Travis Demeritte, Winder-Barrow HS (GA) (56) SS Riley Unroe, Desert Ridge HS (AZ) (53) SS Oscar Mercado, Gaither HS (FL) (38) SS/3B Dustin Peterson, Gilbert HS (AZ) (62) RHP Aaron Blair, Marshall (41) RHP Jason Hursh, Oklahoma State (46) RHP Corey Knebel, Texas (48) RHP Andrew Mitchell, Texas Christian (50) RHP Bobby Wahl, Mississippi (36) RHP Devin Williams, Hazelwood West HS (CA) (43) RHP Matt Krook, St. Ignatius HS (CA) (42) LHP Hunter Green, Warren East HS (KY) (31) LHP Cody Reed, NW Mississippi JC LHP Tom Windle, Minnesota (47) LHP Kevin Ziomek, Vanderbilt (51)
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