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Post by grandsalami on Aug 7, 2023 12:19:26 GMT -5
which proves my point that it does not matter if you buy or sell.... ??It does not matter if you buy or sell?? So... is the whole roster immaterial, and the wins and losses are handed out, and the whole thing is a conspiracy? sorry, was not clear... the whole media narrative that the sox Clubhouse is "pissed" that they did not make any "BIG" moves at the trade deadline, and thats why they are playing like dog poop
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 7, 2023 12:09:25 GMT -5
which proves my point that it does not matter if you buy or sell....
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 7, 2023 12:08:08 GMT -5
From above "I personally think it’s good for teams to not give a damn what the fans think, because the fans are usually clueless " Now that's an attitude filled with hubris. Is the whole point of baseball satisfying the stat geeks and those who think they know it all? Or is the point to build and delight a fan base and put a winning product on the field - esp with a wealthy team, big market team like the Red Sox? Lets ask the Mets... who spent almost the GDP of a small country in the offseason, and ended up being sellers
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 22:12:16 GMT -5
Dubon is a 29 year old nobody. The Thorburg trade was bad only because of Shaw and the fact that thornburg sucked I’d do the Kimberl trade again Is. At the time he was a pretty good prospect
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 19:37:01 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you think John Henry and crew would ever say, "We are going to suck or at best be marginal for 3 or 4 years while we build up the farm and create a ground up operation that can provide low cost quality players who are worth investing in with expensive free agents or trades to put us over the top." Of course they are going to say their intent is contend while creating the above, however, it isn't realistic to think they could do both. Now is the time for the plan to come to fruition and with Casas and Bello already here, Yoshida, Story and Devers in place, Rafaela on the way and the hope that this is not just a career year for Duran they are rounding into that shape. I would really expect them to go whole hog after Yamamoto if they believe he's the real thing or find a top pitcher elsewhere either by cash or trading some real assets. Hopefully Mayer gets it going, but if not they do have a guy who can play above average shortstop though they'd need to rearrange the outfield. But 2024 is the time and then the problem will be to continue draft well as the Sox move up and their draft position and associated $$ move down. Then why did they hold onto Duvall, Eovaldi, Paxton, Verdugo, etc.? The plan is clearly not to focus on the farm. Its wanting to have your cake and eat it too. You because it would be asinine to trade them just because. If they got a good offer then fine, trade them. But it would be stupid to trade them for the hell of it We were 2 games back of the WC at the deadline. So…
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 14:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 14:09:57 GMT -5
The deadline approach the last 2 seasons has been incredibly short-sighted Which I find a bit ironic since they are supposedly looking for sustainable success The fact is if we had sold the last two deadlines our 2024 and beyond would look much better. Yeah all potential prospects acquired in that scenario could all flame out, but that doesn’t make the last two deadlines any less of a bad decision. No sane GM was going to sell when we were 2 games back of the WC at the time. We had a better record than NYY. If we sold off and NY didnt. That would be malpractice
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 13:53:59 GMT -5
No sane GM was going to sell when we were 2 games back of the WC at the time. We had a better record than NYY. If we sold off and NY didnt. That would be malpractice The Guardians sold at the deadline only half a game behind the Twins Yes. Because the AL central is a tire fire. And. One key difference. CLE has a sub 500 record.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 13:51:31 GMT -5
This weekend's outcome just makes you regret that they got hot right before the trade deadline. Should've sold at the deadline could've gotten a good haul for Turner, Paxton, Verdugo, and Duvall No sane GM was going to sell when we were 2 games back of the WC at the time. We had a better record than NYY. If we sold off and NY didnt. That would be malpractice
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 13:49:17 GMT -5
If the players quit because the sox did not “trade for reinforcements” then they could never handle the boston market to begin with. because they do no that trading for reinforcements means players currently in the fenway locker room would be sent out as well yes? Yes, the idea is that the worst players on the roster would be jettisoned for better players. Somehow I think most of the players would be down with that. Right now our issue is defense and hitting Currently devers is the worst fielder on the team. as is Casas. Were we going to trade for a new 3B?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 13:45:35 GMT -5
If the players quit because the sox did not “trade for reinforcements” then they could never handle the boston market to begin with.
because they do no that trading for reinforcements means players currently in the fenway locker room would be sent out as well yes?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 11:13:27 GMT -5
He’s also striking out 30% of the time against AAA pitching. Clearly his timing is off. Chang is probably a better defender than him so if Story’s ability to hit isn’t quite on point yet then why on earth would people want to make that switch yet? Chang’s been one of their better players this series anyway And who is Lopez? Reyes? My bad Reyes. I was thinking Pablo and went Lopez instead of Reyes. You make the switch because the lineup is completely different with Story in it, even if he needs a few more games to get his timing back. He's a professional hitter and the K% is attributed to a small sample size. This is the most important game of the year and Story showing up would be an immediate spark for this roster. And people wonder why players find playing in Boston to be toxic. Fans think they know when a player is ready more than the player himself
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 10:45:53 GMT -5
Trevor Story might be my least favorite Sox player since Pablo Sandavol. The Sox need him today and he'd rather get a few more reps in AAA? Perfectly fine with storys decision. Its his body and he knows when he would be ready. (Timing wise with regards to swings etc)
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 10:15:38 GMT -5
Lol. We were two games back of a playoff spot this year at the trade deadline. There was no way they would sell. And pitching has been fine. Its our offense thats been the issue. No offensive player that was traded this deadline would help the issues they currently have. While you're busy laughing for whatever reason, you're correct in that they shouldn't sell and that the offense is MIA. What you're forgetting is that good teams with playoff aspirations need to be able to still win when they score 3 runs in a game every now and then. The Sox defense and certain areas of the pitching doesn't allow for the offense to be able to struggle at all. That went largely unaddressed. Today the season hinges on a game that being started by yet another opener with another bulk guy afterwards. Dont know how comfortable that makes you but it doesnt do any wonders for me. Those issues went largely unaddressed. The problem is that with Kíke gone, one of the weakest positions defensively is. 3rd base. Not sure that is/was fixable this trade deadline given who are 3rd baseman is currently
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2023 9:07:05 GMT -5
I've seen this movie before. Didn't like it the first time. Repeating the same mistakes twice and two years in a row is a fireable offense in my eyes. I have seen it asked many times “what team that is close to a playoff spot ever sells” Okay well what team that is in serious contention didn’t buy at this deadline? Again the implication of our inaction was that bloom didn’t believe in this team enough to pay the price to upgrade (again a fair assessment) In that conclusion the optimal route would be to sell. It is very much a binary decision. But having the same dilemma, the same approach, and then being surprised that the result isn’t different, is lunacy. Our last 2 gms were fired within 4 seasons, and they both won a World Series. I’d say Bloom has a 50/50 shot of operating this off-season with us Lol. We were two games back of a playoff spot this year at the trade deadline. There was no way they would sell. And pitching has been fine. Its our offense thats been the issue. No offensive player that was traded this deadline would help the issues they currently have.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 5, 2023 18:39:32 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 5, 2023 18:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 5, 2023 15:48:35 GMT -5
Seriously bench Devers.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 4, 2023 21:14:42 GMT -5
Being critical of the front office for not getting pitching? fine. I would have liked Lorenzen. But let's be real, you're not winning this game when your middle of the lineup 2-7 hitters go 1/21. Yup. But seriously. Sit Devers for a few. Games. Something is clearly wrong. He is playing like horse poop on defense and offense
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 4, 2023 20:30:18 GMT -5
I would bench devers for a few games. Inexcusable
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 4, 2023 19:59:43 GMT -5
The offense has still not come out of its west coast skunk. Puts too much pressure on the pitching staff to be perfect when we are scoring 2 runs a game.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 4, 2023 18:47:47 GMT -5
Devers…
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 4, 2023 13:44:01 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 4, 2023 13:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 3, 2023 23:14:57 GMT -5
Poor Angeles fans
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