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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 10, 2022 21:15:08 GMT -5
That was an entertaining half of Basketball with a little of everything and the refs even did a decent job (knocks on wood) and let the chips fall where they will in the second half.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 23:13:23 GMT -5
Oh look, another trash third quarter. They mitigated it tonight to a -8 despite several early third quarter shady calls and you know I don't think that's even a point of contention. Calls can influence confidence. One spurs the other. You see the result maybe you call it resilience but I think both happens very unpredictable from game to game regardless of ones gumption. The only short game in the entire series favors the younger Celtics and with the Celtics up 2-1 I expect nothing but a shit show from the refs, that said I still think because of the youth we still stand close to a 50 50 shot at this game DESPITE the refs.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 23:02:33 GMT -5
The plus-minus of the game is such a weird start. I feel like it carries weight in most games but it's a loose translation to actual effectiveness in several games. Well tonight the best was R.Williams plus 21 in only 26 minutes, which speaks volumes and Smart also had a quiet but very effective game with a plus 19.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 22:40:20 GMT -5
What a performance. If the Celtics lose this series playing with this level of energy I’ll be a happy camper. Convenient how subjective that is. If you were not convinced two series ago you were never going to be. Edit: Again shockingly quiet during game, draw your own conclusions. You say whiners of referees are losers yet are afraid to commit to the team and believe in it even during the finals, draw your own conclusions.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 22:04:46 GMT -5
These announcers are worse than the refs, is that possible?
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 21:37:33 GMT -5
Holding my breath over this 3rd quarter. Really don't understand Ime coming out of the half with 2 bigs again. edit: much faster to adjust by Ime this game which I love. White honestly is basically shorter and slightly better shooting Timelord in terms of his role on both ends. Started seeing some shady calls, let's see if we can override that.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 21:36:54 GMT -5
Tatum is so good when he drives to score and so bad when he drives to draw a foul. It's one of my suggestions to improve the entire league. It rewards actors not athletes nor athleticism. Offensive players should be doing what they can to avoid contact not draw it. It also slows the pace of the game down with free throws. The objective should not be to emphasize fouls but to decrease them and showcase athleticism. Free throws were supposed to be what happened when all else went wrong or de-emphasized and now it's exploited and the league allowed it. It literally takes away from the very spirit of the game.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:49:15 GMT -5
So, what kind of adjustments can we make for game 3? I would try Tatum on Curry and Smart on Draymond for a while, see how that works. Also, I'd like Horford running the offense a bit more, obviously not as a PG, but run a pick and roll to get him the ball on the FT line and get some cuts and screens to move guys around. The offense got mad stale in the last game. 1. You gotta go smaller. I don’t think Rob should be starting. I think he should be subbing for Al. Rob was a great player for 3 quarters of the season. He’s honestly an average player in this series. There’s too much talent, and he’s too hobbled. Starting White and Smart and making Curry work hard for 40 minutes is a more practical bet than thinking that the Rob and Al combo is going to overpower the Warriors. 2. Ime needs to get his guys to play harder. We can all Pooh Pooh this. But when the Warriors got a favorable whistle in the first half, you could see the Celtics’ body language and effort change. I’ve said it before, now say it with me folks: Being a bitch about the officiating is a loser trait. If the Celtics lose this series, it won’t be because the NBA rigged it. It may be because the NBA referees gave you a bad whistle and you responded like a 6th grade team with father issues. Have some pride. Don’t be a victim when the calls don’t go your way. Or when the playground bully challenges you to a fight and the recess monitor looks the other way. There can be a downside to being a world class talent. Tatum, Brown, Smart. These guys have been the best players in the world for their age brackets since they were juniors in high school. It’s hard to realize that you gave it your all and it just wasn’t good enough. Not when you’ve been told you’re the second coming since driver’s Ed class. I wish these guys the best. They are absolutely talented enough to win this thing, even with Robert Williams being a shell of himself. It would be an awesome sight to see this Celtics team die on their shield. But I don’t know if they’ve got that kind of courage. So are you a winner, better than everyone else here because when you were a 6 year old your coach correctly told you if you blame refs you already lost. He was right but that only applies to players and coaches you know those actually involved. In some cases sure fans myself included will blame refs when we shouldn't but to claim they don't decide games either is beyond ignorance and a lack of awareness of what was drilled into you as a kid was only situationally right and lacks the ability to see beyond that. I ignored your previous snarky post toward me but now you are calling those aware as losers here that's a step to far.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:41:46 GMT -5
Why do you continue to watch (and post on this thread about) a sport that you think is fixed? Explained in detail at the time by a former ref and several of us here they influence games. It's been explained many time how before each playoff series they sit with the referees and tell then which rules are to be strictly enforced and the rules inevitably favor one team over another. Why would he make that claim if not true?? Did he have anything to gain and possibly alot to lose? Yes. What reason would you have to believe otherwise when there is evidence to suggest otherwise. And the league is obligated legally to it's board to maximize profits.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:37:14 GMT -5
NBA refs do suck, but if that's all they did, it would be somewhat equal and not 17-2 in favor of the team that is facing elimination. Not sure why you don't understand that. I understand it. I think it's meaningless and a useless stat to bring up. I'm sure there's MLB umpires with the same record that we don't keep track of. Same with NFL. You're just looking for a reason outside of the Celtics lousy play in a game to blame. I get it, but it's exhausting everytime the refs get blamed every game the Celtics lose. Makes me want to turn off the thread and not post. Wishful thinking. Prove it.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:35:14 GMT -5
There's only two things that are proven to be true in every NBA game I believe when it comes to their accuracy- -There will always be at least 5 calls you can question on both teams where the NBA Refs made a a questionable call on either side. -The Refs will favor NBA superstars, especially if they're great at creating contact when going towards the basket. They're probably told to look out for it before the game. While your second statement about 5 questionable calls against both teams happens most games is generally true it does nothing to counter the point you are trying to make. Both can easily be true.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:32:06 GMT -5
Then how do you explain the ref with a 17-2 record at extending series for teams facing elimination? That is not a coincidence. They're not extending anything. NBA REFS JUST SUCK. THEY'LL CONTINUE TO SUCK UNTIL THE END OF TIME. IF ANYTHING THEY NEED TO GET THEIR EYES CHECKED. It's like dealing with umpires strike zones only there's no easy solution like a robo ump to replace it. You can easily call a bias or a rigged game on a umpire strike zone but in reality, you're just dealing with a blind umpire. The more accurate statement is calling every NBA Ref a Angel Hernandez, until someone can prove that the NBA Refs are gambling all over again. Edit- Trust me the NBA can not afford another scandal where the refs are making the NBA a illegitimate sport in a time where word spreads faster than a brushfire in this social media climate. An atomic bomb was created in a city newly created to get the people together, tens of thousands and that secret was kept. It's wishful thinking to think they are not kept, and Donaghy exposed this too. All major sports are gravely aware how dangerous it would be is something like the blacksox scandal happened today. Even if it was reported they are in step with the media and would squish it quickly, just as they did with the former whistle blower.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:24:12 GMT -5
They definitely tried to push the Nets series longer. The one ref they brought in was 17-2 before that game at extending playoff series. Just calling it a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not absolutely real. It's just a expected reality that NBA Refs blow. They're making judgement calls on a game that's played at a very fast pace. Unless one of these dudes gets brought up on charges on gambling again, I don't think any of this is a conspiracy. They just suck. They won't always make the right calls. Just need to accept this and move on. So you think one ousted is the exception to the rule and the rest are on the up and up despite strong evidence to the contrary? Being willfully ignorant is not ignorant. For every person caught doing wrong they say there is at least 9 to 20 times more for all offenses.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:21:41 GMT -5
The reason I chose Celtics in 7 is because it was never more obvious the NBA would push this series to 7 games. Why didn't they push the Nets series to 7?...or Golden State and Dallas series? It sounds as tho you believe that the refs are part of this envisioned conspiracy. Come on man, this should be self evident for numerous reasons. One they don't actually fix games they influence games as reported by a former referee. If they made every series 7 games we wouldn't need to have this conversation. Do I need to explain it further?
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 8, 2022 20:18:24 GMT -5
Why didn't they push the Nets series to 7?...or Golden State and Dallas series? It sounds as tho you believe that the refs are part of this envisioned conspiracy. I mean, its obvious they are. Please listen to the Whistleblower podcast if you have not already. Its not like that stuff has just disappeared. They don't have a 100% success rate because they obviously aren't playing the games. But they definitely try to influence them. There is WAY more money on the line in a Boston-SF finals for every game shorter it goes vs an early round series. They aren't gonna just let that go poof if they can help it. Obviously, the primary culprit for tonight's loss was the Boston Celtics. But the helping hand was quite obvious and also rattled us. Doesn't excuse our poor play, but it happens regularly in the NBA, unfortunately. To further you point, if one read what Donaghy wrote is the NBA does not fix games they influence them that way they can never get caught. It's ingenious and makes way to much sense for an NBA referee to have made up or conceive. If you actually read what he wrote and know the NBA said they'd sue any publisher who made a book for him you have to be willingly ignorant not to be 100% convinced but then again I read everything I could get my hands on it at the time and I'm well informed about it.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 3, 2022 22:45:51 GMT -5
That was the best quarter of basketball I’ve seen the Celtics play in my entire life and that is not hyperbole. I'm old enough to have experienced the Bird era, so I can't get on board with that. But this century? Yeah, I can buy that. I have memories of going to games before Birds rookie year but his rookie year was the first year I fully remember. Other than having it be Russell & Heinsons Rookie year there was no better to become a fan.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 3, 2022 20:54:57 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see if GS changes up their D or continues to double Tatum and force Horford, Smart and White to beat them. I assume based on their comments that those three are likely not to go 15-23 on 3's and I have to agree so they will continue to double Tatum. That stated, there is no reason those 3 cannot approximate their game 1 total and that Taum will shoot better regardless of what the Warriors do as well as run sub plays that will isolate him more or seal lanes to the hoop.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 3, 2022 0:30:26 GMT -5
So I stayed away from the disparaging comments made against Smart in game 7 against Miami, I've complained against Smart taking 3's early against the clock with no one down low, this, however, is the playoffs aka a short series and when the other team challenges you with an open 3 you should take it, notice tonight they gave him 2 & he hit them, not one comment. You might be a fan but you don't understand the game, at least not for a playoff series. It's a playoff series and you must play chess while others play checkers.
A healthy R. Williams makes it hard for G. State to win the series. I thought sitting Rob game one was crazy but game 7 against miami was the worst game I've seen him play in over a year, so not nearly as crazy as I originally thought. Rob is the last line of defense when all else goes wrong on Defense . Rob is what punishes the other team's D when they collapse on our players driving to the net which opens up our entire Offense. He's what makes the Celtics elite without being our best player. His unique skill set allows everything else to flow smoothly even when everything seems to be going wrong. He's our glue.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 2, 2022 23:35:47 GMT -5
It was the Celtics game, team win. Oh, I'm sorry. Apparently no one told you we are too inexperienced to have much of a chance as a team. Now I've told you. You're welcome. All I was doing was expanding upon your point to be more inclusive of the whole team. Playoffs lessons teach you one thing you win and lose as a team. I don't understand what your are saying.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 2, 2022 23:20:03 GMT -5
Imagine being the Warriors right now, Curry goes off, Tatum can't buy a basket and you get blown out at home after being up big. I was just saying that too. Pretty demoralizing. But at the same rate, you know Horford and White aren’t doing that every night. Come on man be fair, neither is Curry getting 6 3's in the first quarter, neither is Tatum missing the side of the barn more than one other game, and both Horford and White have been trending well for several games.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 2, 2022 22:33:45 GMT -5
Al Horford is a baaaaaaad man. Is this "the Horford game?" or "the White game?" or "the Brown game?" Still to be determined, I guess. It was the Celtics game, team win.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 30, 2022 19:34:26 GMT -5
They don’t take into account how poorly Boston has executed in close games. If you don't take the Nets series into account, sure. Also what championship run doesn't have it's poor performances mixed in? Name me the exception and i will respond that you just proved the exception that proves the rule. SO to use these poor performances to act like poor fans does not justify your or anyones elses behavior.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 30, 2022 15:47:53 GMT -5
The only thing I can think of is that some people are afraid to invest to much emotionally lest they may be let down. It's a game you will recover. When you are positive the ride is alot better and the whiners can be unbearable. What some call a process I call a character flaw. Constant complaining about other posters is something I call a character flaw. Here is the rub, I didn't single out anyone here. Calling the team losers etc is immature at best. Complaining about about people who spoil the ride is factual. Constantly calling the team losers during the journey is a character flaw. Is this even debatable???
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 30, 2022 8:23:35 GMT -5
Its hilarious reading the beginning of this thread and then fast forwarding to the last few days: Ime soft, Tatum doesn’t know how to win, trade Brown, Smart sucks… The only thing I can think of is that some people are afraid to invest to much emotionally lest they may be let down. It's a game you will recover. When you are positive the ride is alot better and the whiners can be unbearable. What some call a process I call a character flaw.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 29, 2022 22:25:35 GMT -5
Celtics won and I've never been more disgusted with the league. Obviously, it's not sour milk on my part they won
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