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Trey Ball
Jun 10, 2018 7:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 10, 2018 7:42:05 GMT -5
The only reach is saying that the Ball pick was a reach. As stated above, that draft had a tier of 6 players, which went 1-6, before dropping off to the next tier. Ball was easily in that next tier, although probably in the back half of it. Taking Ball also allowed the Sox to spend later on another player that was thought to be a pretty good prospect. Something to keep in mind is that the first pick in that draft is already retired, and the player who got picked at pick 8, (who was actually a huge reach) has made the big leagues, and also allowed the team that took him to take another player later in the draft that just threw a no-hitter against the Red Sox. Drafting is hard, and requires a lot of luck. It's a shame Ball didn't work out like we wanted, but there certainly wasn't anything inherently wrong with their strategy. Top tier had 7 players, Meadows was still available at 7 when we picked. Which makes the pick even more awful. Meadows was thought to be tweener with no carrying tool and I remember him being firmly outside the top teir. My recollection had him as the next best pick, and the person I wanted, but still a huge letdown considering most people wanted Frazier to fall.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 9, 2018 23:45:51 GMT -5
Lol, Ball wasn’t a reach, though. He was a slightly underslot sign and most outlets had him falling no lower than 12. He was pretty much consensus next-tier after the top few guys. He was a reach at 7 though. It's normally a bad idea to take a under slot guy at a top pick like that. Correa might be the one exception to the rule. Take the best talent in the top 10 especially. That could be your next franchise piece. The only reach is saying that the Ball pick was a reach. As stated above, that draft had a tier of 6 players, which went 1-6, before dropping off to the next tier. Ball was easily in that next tier, although probably in the back half of it. Taking Ball also allowed the Sox to spend later on another player that was thought to be a pretty good prospect. Something to keep in mind is that the first pick in that draft is already retired, and the player who got picked at pick 8, (who was actually a huge reach) has made the big leagues, and also allowed the team that took him to take another player later in the draft that just threw a no-hitter against the Red Sox. Drafting is hard, and requires a lot of luck. It's a shame Ball didn't work out like we wanted, but there certainly wasn't anything inherently wrong with their strategy.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 4, 2018 8:01:16 GMT -5
I think the Sox should purposefully not sign their first round pick this year so they get another pick in next year's draft (next year's draft look MUCH better than this year). Sorry. Just getting that out of the way early. I disagree because they are trying to use this draft to rebuild after trades. If they want another pick next year I'd go with not resigning Pomeranz. Wright or Beeks could take his spot in the rotation. I agree. Was the winky face not enough of a giveaway?
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 3, 2018 23:26:27 GMT -5
I think the Sox should purposefully not sign their first round pick this year so they get another pick in next year's draft (next year's draft look MUCH better than this year). Sorry. Just getting that out of the way early.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 3, 2018 22:28:56 GMT -5
Shame the Sox couldn't step up and make this more of a series. Maybe next year I guess I have no shame. As long as the Sox are winning, I could make out to be a fool 1000 times a day. Hope the Sox keep up this good pace. They might need to in order to win the division. Edit- I really don't care about being right. I really care about the Sox winning. No worries. Everyone's wrong from time to time. You should just try being wrong less often.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 3, 2018 21:50:27 GMT -5
Shame the Sox couldn't step up and make this more of a series. Maybe next year I guess
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Post by swingingbunt on Jun 3, 2018 14:17:18 GMT -5
All of the questions will be answered come October. We will see if the Sox can win the division in between that time. Just like every season
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Post by swingingbunt on May 27, 2018 22:01:46 GMT -5
Remember when we all thought Rozier didn't suck? Those were an awesome couple weeks... He doesn’t suck - he had a brutal game and he’s not nearly as good as Kyrie, but he’s a quality NBA player. He's obviously not a 0% 3-point shooter like he was tonight, but he's not nearly as good as he was for a couple games here and there. He's a decent backup and that's about it.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 27, 2018 21:58:24 GMT -5
One man truly is enough in basketball. When you're done when your victory lap, take a look at shooting percentages in this game. LeBron didn't win this game. Far from it. If the Celtics shot even remotely decent they win easily.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 27, 2018 21:55:35 GMT -5
Remember when we all thought Rozier didn't suck? Those were an awesome couple weeks...
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Post by swingingbunt on May 26, 2018 18:03:44 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what else to say, and again, I'm not really even sure what your point is....it seems to shift with every post. I know you have a history of quadrupling down on your stance, but you're not really even responding to some of my points. You're seemingly ignoring the quotes from Quintana himself making it quite clear he was signable. You've questioned why he might have slid to the 11th round, but ignoring my evidence of how rare it is for a player to sign for 500k or more in Rounds 5-10 (8 out of ~180 picks). You're questioning whether teams might contact agents before every pick but ignoring the relevance of the 11th round, that is, they've had an entire evening to reach out to agents and reset their draft board. I don't have anything new to say, but if you will continue to ignore these points, then I think we should move on. You want to agree to disagree I get that 100%.
But don't act like I didn't mention the fact that the Red Sox, only one team have gone over $600,000 in the 4th or 5th round 3 times in the last two years. It's not that rare my friend. I didn't ignore the contacting or lack of contact, I have no clue just like you. So stop acting like its a fact, unless you have a source? Like I said I find it very hard to believe he just lowered his asking price, most top high school players don't do that. Are you saying they do? I'm not also ignoring the fact of what Quintana said, but it means litterally nothing if you don't know what it would take to sign him. He also sent out a tweet he was going to College no matter what, but them deleted it after getting drafted. Which really blows your theory out of the water. www.azdesertswarm.com/arizona-baseball/2016/6/11/11908222/2016-mlb-draft-results-arizona-signee-nick-quintana-picked-by-red-sox This should be the official motto of the soxprospects forums
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Post by swingingbunt on May 25, 2018 21:36:20 GMT -5
LeBron really wouldn't be all that special if the refs treated him like a mere mortal.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 25, 2018 20:30:38 GMT -5
Mamo 1-on-3: "I got this"
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Post by swingingbunt on May 25, 2018 20:23:51 GMT -5
Apparently Brad is going to wait until the deficit is 10+ before calling a timeout. Awful job by him. I swear, the Celts would be out of time outs in the first 5 minutes if you were the coach.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 25, 2018 17:00:30 GMT -5
Of course I would have loved to see Hanley perform better than he did, but considering his reputation, I absolutely can't complain about his time here. Hanley did anything the team asked of him, worked hard, and always had a smile on his face. I'll miss him.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 21, 2018 21:15:59 GMT -5
I mean, even when NBA refs were throwing games they wouldn't have made that call. This post, of course, assumes that NBA refs have stopped throwing games. Because if that foul is exhibit A in a court of law I don't need to see any more evidence.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 21, 2018 21:11:46 GMT -5
I mean, even when NBA refs were throwing games they wouldn't have made that call.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 21, 2018 21:10:29 GMT -5
That call on Morris is the worst call ever!! Don't sell it short. It was the worst call in the history of basketball.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 21, 2018 20:21:56 GMT -5
Death, taxes, and LeBron getting bailed out by the refs on his bad shots
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Post by swingingbunt on May 21, 2018 20:12:35 GMT -5
I hate when people throw around the term embarrassing, but that quarter was embarrassing
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Post by swingingbunt on May 14, 2018 13:52:28 GMT -5
Really hope we don't get two-hit against Manea like the last time we faced him.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 12, 2018 17:25:51 GMT -5
Speaking of stupid
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Post by swingingbunt on May 11, 2018 20:50:37 GMT -5
Can't overturn that
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Post by swingingbunt on May 9, 2018 21:40:37 GMT -5
Refball
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Post by swingingbunt on May 9, 2018 20:49:29 GMT -5
Embiid is such a mental midget
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