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Post by taftreign on Nov 25, 2013 22:41:13 GMT -5
Rafael Furcal? How much does he cost at this point? May not be the most cost effective target if the main focus is a glove first SS but worth considering.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 25, 2013 20:52:36 GMT -5
Was listening to XM radio and the MLB Tonight broadcast when they mentioned Carlos Santana is taking ground balls at 3B in the Dominican Winter League. Yet another position.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 25, 2013 13:55:28 GMT -5
I see Pittsburgh has traded 1B/OF prospect Alex Dickerson to San Diego for two players, OF Jaff Decker and RH RP Miles Mikolas. Dickerson is an interesting 1B prospect who at the right price would have been a nice acquisition for Boston. Anyone know the San Diego system to compare Decker and Mikolas to Red Sox prospects?
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Post by taftreign on Nov 25, 2013 13:49:30 GMT -5
He meant he will be released. Still on the hook for all those years salary wise but he just won't be suiting up to get the money.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 25, 2013 12:18:23 GMT -5
Yes. The Yankees have made poor choices in the past and paid for it the last few seasons but they really aren't in that bad of shape. Not only do they have the salary room to add multiple impact bats but as soon as next season their payroll loses V. Well's $21 mil, Soriano's $18 mil, Jeter's $12 mil and Suzuki's $6.5 mil. They'll have money to spend next season as well particularly if no longer impeded by the luxury tax threshold. To make it worse they had 3 first round picks last season to bring in talent. This year they probably only end up with a 1st supplemental for Granderson while losing a 1st, 2nd, and maybe 3rd. Olney has speculated that after A Rod's suspension is announced the club may release him after the suspension ends. While they would still be on the hook for the money it would open a roster spot, remove unwanted attention and tension from the team and perhaps save the team the extra millions in incentives for HR milestones. insider.espn.go.com/blog/buster-olney/post?id=3881 * Insider Required
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Post by taftreign on Nov 24, 2013 19:54:40 GMT -5
Right, and especially for teams that see themselves as contenders. For those teams, every additional win is worth an increasing amount of money, reaching huge amounts for the one or two that they think will get the team into the post-season. This is absolutely true. Compounded by the addition of two new Wildcards.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 22:37:47 GMT -5
With the rising salaries it's harder to put together a scenario where the team can add multiple from the impact free agents and stay under the luxury tax. You can go cheap at catcher with Hannigan. You can go cheap in RF with Gomes and Nava. You can go cheap at 1B with Nava and Carp. But that significantly reduces the offensive prowess. So maybe Napoli at 15 mil per year. But with Badenhop(2), Hannigan(2) and Napoli(15) the team would only have around 13 mil left. I can't see that getting you Drew, Beltran, Cruz, Granderson or Ellsbury. Maybe you add one of the OF's for the 15 mil and use the money for Hart at 1B. The combinations are lessening.
It seems more apparent the team will move salary. Also IMO it appears more likely the team will be involved in a more significant trade. Of course the team could just run the best defensive lineup possible out there and solidify the pitching and hope one larger free agent signing, Bogaerts, JBJR, and WMB supplement enough of the lost offense from Salty, Napoli, Ellsbury and Drew.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 22:16:12 GMT -5
Well the QO is going to skyrocket as a result! The average of the top 125 MLB salaries is rising quickly. Real quickly.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 20:49:25 GMT -5
Jon Heyman
?@jonheymancbs i team that offered $52M for 4 yrs for peralta was told they're not even in game. will be fascinating how high it goes.
If this is true what does Drew get?
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 20:33:27 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson
?@brianmacp According to a source, the Red Sox did talk to the Angels about Bourjos before the Freese trade, but the discussions "didn't go very far." Reply Retweet Favorite More
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 19:58:44 GMT -5
Is the team regretting not giving Salty a QO at this point?
Probably. 1 year at near 15 mil is stomachable. The market has set it up for him to easily get a multi year deal had he not accepted. # Hind sight!
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 19:33:17 GMT -5
Well I don't now the exect amount but I think they have near 70 million so 17 for McCann, 25 for Cano, 15 for Tanaka would leave 13 mil for an OF. I also expect they would try to move Suzuki's 6.5 mil at the minimum.
That does't account for any savings from an ARod suspension.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 19:31:04 GMT -5
It is a great deal of money for the Yankees to tie up in an older catcher but I'd still rather have seen him sign with another team. He will improve their team for a few seasons and he really does fit the stadium well. I'm not going to be super happy just because in years 5 and 6 this deal will be unproductive because years 1 through 4 will probably bring some decent value and warrant the money.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 23, 2013 14:19:24 GMT -5
If this is the post Badenhop edition shouldn't the available luxury tax room be reduced by his projected arb salary of $2.1 million?
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 23:27:29 GMT -5
Agreed. It's hard to let go of WMB because his potential is still promising and the power is hypnotizing. But Pederson brings power of his own and would fit nicely in LF and offer versatility as a CF. Resigning Drew even on an extra year and a few extra $ overall improves the teams defense IMO. Signing Drew may temporarily block Cecchini at 3b as Bogaerts would slide over. Unless your of the mind to move Bogaerts to another position by 2016 but I would bet Drew will still have trade value at that time. This would allow the team to bring Cecchini up late in 2015 and use a rotation similar to this season with Drew/Bogaerts/WMB. Bogaets slides to SS when Drew is out and Garin plays 3B. You also now open trade options involving one or more of Gomes, Nava and Carp.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 23:16:19 GMT -5
I'm shocked the Angels couldn't get more for him. You'd have thought there would have been much more interest out there for a CF with the prowess of Bourjos and at such a small financial commitment. In this era of defensive minded analytic thinking how can there not be a better offer. I haven't ran through the league and looked at other teams CF's but I would have to think you could easily find another 5 or more teams who could have improved their OF with him. And to add in what appears to be a very legitimate league average or better corner OF. I would have need more back if I'm the Angels considering they're also taking on a larger portion of salary vs St Louis. Perhaps this happened to quickly in the off season. When I squint I get it but a little baffling on examination.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 23:08:07 GMT -5
Kemp is tempting but the smart move is to cut through it all and acquire Joc Pederson. Unless LA moves two of Kemp, Either, Crawford, and Puig he's stuck for at least another 4 seasons. A prospect for prospect trade from depth? Perhaps a major league piece such as 1 of our starters (Doubront, Lackey, Peavy) or WMB. Other smaller parts or cash would be in consideration for balance in such a move as would potentially adding a free agent such as Drew in the WMB scenario. I'd be more confident not adding a player with a large contract with the potential to be a burden than the risk of a prospect flopping even if it means losing a valuable piece to obtain him.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 17:51:22 GMT -5
I would agree Kemp is a better player at his peak and fully healthy. I agree he would be a better roster fit playing LF with Bradley JR in CF. I think you can argue though that Kemp is more of an injury concern at this point then Ellsbury. Additionally LA has an overload in the OF and should be motivated to move one. Doesn't mean they will "give" him away but it should close any gap. No?
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 17:43:47 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 16:54:42 GMT -5
In rethinking the Kemp salary I don't see Ben willing to pay more for Kemp than he could pay to resign Ellsbury. If you can get Jacoby for 6 and 115 then you would be starting with no less a discount than 13 mil and considering the cost of picks or players to get him vs zero cost for Jacoby except one less supplemental the discount grows. Thinking in these terms I'd add an additional 25 mil and set the over/under around 38 mil. This is in line with your thinking bmitchsox. Now if LA will take Dempster and his salary as part of the return that number likely decreases as it should also reduce the other prospect/player return. I would expect Ben to mention his Ellsbury option in discussions to show a very viable alternate option.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 16:23:25 GMT -5
I guess I won't rule out a Cano to TEX signing, but it's more likely that they found a way to get Profar in the lineup everyday. I think they're going to flip him for pitching though. Package him in a deal for Price and now your team looks unstoppable. Of course, the Cano signing would have to be the first shoe to drop for Tex. Right now the Rangers are at $100,125,000 while in 2013 they were at $125,340,100. This is including the Fielder trade. They have another big move or two to make. Also worthy to note, Alex Rios is at the end of his contract with a club option for 2015. They might be able to move him and eat some of his salary to free up more space. He is currently owed 13mil. The Rangers have experienced a drop of 9 percent in attendance and lost around 7.4mil as a result. Their new TV contract does not being until after the 2014 season, but if you can build a winning team now, you take the hit in the interim and profit by a deep October run + additional revenues in 2015. This is all contingent if they want to be a 130-140mil team. I think another disappointing season from the Cowboys and an investment and commitment by ownership might draw back the fans that they lost this season. Just something to keep in mind with a Price trade. espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10007705/sizing-market-robinson-canoExcerpt: Teams dabbling in the David Price trade market report there's an interesting wrinkle in the structure of Price's contract that could make dealing for him even more expensive than previously thought. Price signed a one-year, $10.1125 million deal last January, but $4.1125 million of it was wrapped in a deferred signing bonus that isn't payable until next year. At the time, we were told the contract was structured that way for tax reasons, and had no connection to the possibility of Price getting traded. But that hasn't stopped some teams from wondering. While the rules say the Rays are responsible for paying Price that deferred money, there is nothing that precludes them from negotiating a trade that would require the team dealing for him to take on that debt. So the Rays could use that $5 million as just one more leverage point. (i.e., "We'll take a slightly lesser prospect if you pay him that money we owe him.") And it wouldn't shock other teams one bit if that money becomes one more piece in the complicated puzzle of a Price deal, if one ever gets done this winter.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 15:40:24 GMT -5
If the Rangers got Prince and 30 million for Kinsler and his 62 million contract I think the Dodgers would have to kick in more. Maybe take Dempster and his 13.25 off our hands as well as 30+ Miilion. I think anyone going from hitting in LA to Fenway would see a boost. Not to mention NL west road parks are big in SD and I think SF is pitcher friendly too. My thoughts also. I wonder how much though. Very very limited sample in Fenway. In the West he did have Colorado and Arizona to offset some of the SD, SF away games though.
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 15:37:48 GMT -5
This additionally frees up a few million dollars (close to 4) for St Louis that they can apply to a SS. Drew? Would be a pretty nice up the middle with Molina, Drew and Bourjos!
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 15:15:27 GMT -5
This additionally frees up a few million dollars (close to 4) for St Louis that they can apply to a SS.
Drew?
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Post by taftreign on Nov 22, 2013 15:10:50 GMT -5
Kemp is due 6 years and 128 mil. (21, 21, 21.5, 21.5, 21.5, 21.5) How much of that contract would LA have to pay before you'd consider it? That's the question. Given the Rangers unloaded 62 million and got 30 in return for Prince what could a team expect? 35-45? We don't have any awful contracts like Kinsler but maybe Dempster and something similar to the Tigers/Rangers to get the contract around 6/95ish? I could get behind him playing a corner OF for us, preferably Left. I continued this discussion earlier in the existing Matt Kemp thread located in the Trade Proposal Forum.
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