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Post by tonyc on Aug 1, 2021 21:31:11 GMT -5
As mentioned here Studnika is a big key. Given his weight gain, which hopefully is increasing he can indeed take a lot of the bite out of Krejci’s loss. In fact I see his ceiling as being a bit similar type player, just a somewhat less scoring. Defense while on paper may be less deep missing Miller and Kampfer also is less likely to have as many injuries. Similarly, Ullmark and Swayman may be equal to Rask because he was hurt and extremely compromised in the second round. Forward with the deprived second line center but improved bottom lines- remember Nosek did that scoring in 38 games- might end up a wash. Here’s hoping Jack looks great in camp and its not necessary to blow futures that they’ll need.
If indeed everything’s a wash, this club was the hottest down the stretch and I believe would have even given Tampa a run if not for a ton of injuries, and this is a slightly worse Tampa. Alas, they’ve lost a bit of toughness and Bettman is asleep at the wheel regarding dirty play, so that’s still an issue. I hope the Islanders go down, as St. Louis did post 2019.
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Post by tonyc on Jul 9, 2021 16:17:57 GMT -5
Haven’t loved what I’ve heard on the podcasts about Davis. Seems unlikely to ever be a good catcher. Could be a good bat but I’d hope for more at 4. I think I’d prefer they take a chance on Rocker if they’re set on a college guy. Yeah feel that way too, provided he’s only projected to be a .260’s hitter with good power- or is he expected to be better?
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Post by tonyc on Sept 6, 2020 1:18:09 GMT -5
Terrible news. Fantastic pitcher. He brought the Mets to respectability and beyond (lead them to the 69 championship) and I still think the Sox might have won the Series with him perhaps starting Game 4 and coming out of the pen in Game 7 (or even 6?). When Clemens was young I thought of him (pitching-wise) as the new Seaver. Too young. I knew he was not doing well when he couldn't attend the 50th reunion of 1969. I think he had alzheimers. Awful. My exact thoughts- a Redsox writer claimed he was their second best pitcher down the stretch to only Clemens. Replacing the weak Al Nipper with him going against his former team in his last game- you bet he may have changed that World Series! I too thought of Clemens as the new Seaver, and despite the great longevity of Ryan thought of Seaver’s superior command comparing the two. I was taking a math test in 6th grade during game 4 1969 WS and had a radio with an earplug hidden by my hair. The whole class knew and kept whispering to me for the score- I screwed up that test, but despite being a Redsox fan, was a Met fan too that year- it seemed like the biggest upset ever and all of us in NY city went nuts! In fact as painful as 1986 was, they went more nuts then too than I ever remember Yankee fans going- there was a guy on the hood of a car going through the Lincoln tunnel playing a sax.
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Post by tonyc on Feb 7, 2020 1:52:01 GMT -5
Been a long time.. I think it’s too simplistic to view how well the Dodgers did in this trade for their situation as a negative for the reset that Boston was able to achieve through it. It was a given that they’d receive 60 cents on the dollar trading Betts, but would have been screwed long term had they not gotten something and dumped Price. Also, criticizing the “mess” they created necessitating this deal - that was the “Price” for winning in 2018. It’s been necessary to have a system building GM- Cherington, alternating with a “closer”- Dombrowski, and another builder again. Of course this is less painful for methan many of you because after a 4th World Series in 2018 (I go back to 1968 and would pray for one) I became less interested and stopped watching games. In part because building a team is more interesting to me than doing it partially the way the Yankees did with financial pull, like the Dombrowski Redsox. I’m not as interested in todays “launch angle” long games. Finally, Mookie’s turning down offers all this time has been emblematic of a game prioritizing greed over community, so I’m primarily interested in the Bruins. Better action, and desire for wealth, but a large priority on staying with the group.
As fans, too bad we’re not able to enjoy a Redsox team as I did as a youth in the late 60’s early 70’s- yes pained by not winning, but thrilled to see some great players and solid .540 winning percentages. And yes, Mookie was the most exciting right fielder- probably even better than Roberto Clemente who saved Bob Moose’s no hitter with a great catch in front of me.
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Post by tonyc on May 24, 2019 15:17:02 GMT -5
HI folks, been a while- busy with Bruins and work. Decided to replay Weber’s start to scout his stuff after seeing the stellar results. Quite ironic to have him essentially replace Eovaldi who had arguably the best Sox righty stuff since Pedro last year. Unfortunately- I’d love to be wrong here- while his sinker showed nice cut and for the most part he commanded well, I saw lot’s of mistakes- curves he couldn’t break off and pitches with nothing catching the middle of the plate which the bat challenged Jay’s either hit foul homers on, or just missed on. He’d get punished with a better team or command errors. Hopefully more repetition will tighten his command and curve and change this picture. By comparison, I recall an early Derek Lowe appearance (granted he had a much higher pedigree coming out of the minors) where he sat only mid 80’s, but boy was that movement explosive.
Good article in “FiveThirtyEight” (as you may recall Nate Silver started out in sabermetrics) titled “MLB curves and sliders have gotten alarmingly nasty,” about pitchers such as Trevor Bauer and Matt Boyd training at Driveline Baseball and Dynamic Velocity. They use tech to capture their spin rate and movement and accordingly make grip/mechanics changes to optimize their “pitch design.” (Love it when a new product has a monicker concocted to justify the costs)
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Post by tonyc on Nov 7, 2018 2:08:59 GMT -5
Eric, I like this synergistic combo of analytics and scouting. Sounds like statements I read decades ago about the old arguments of genetics vs. environment missing the boat- it’s how they combine. Or Alan Watts mentioning that you cannot dileneate between an organism and its envoirnment in making a study. It seems that left brained western thought is overly focused on separating reality into demarcated bits- black/white, right wrong, etc. As I get older I like the model that things are more complex, shades of gray and multiple truths simultaneously all have weight.
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Post by tonyc on Oct 31, 2018 1:00:14 GMT -5
So here's feelings about each WS win: 2004 Fan since 1968, so great fulfillment, especially after 2003. Living in NY most of my life, now in Boulder lacked the community celebration, usually went to games with friends who were Yankee fans. But the Lazy Dog bar in Boulder was full of New Englanders, and we all went nuts together, then were screaming in the streets in the wee hours. I don't drink, but my ex-girlfriend insisted I had a "contact" drunk!
2007 Had a retinal detachment and several operations to reattach/prevent blindness. The rehab involves sitting face down around the clock and sleeping that way too for weeks. There is a special table with a reverse mirror to watch TV. I had a good recovery and it involved doing nothing daily but seeing the Redsox games! Special year for me, didn't expect them to pass Cleveland. Sadly I tried like crazy for a ticket to see my only playoff ever- game 4 in Colorado- and there was a scam allowing the online scalpers to access the tickets instead of locals waiting on lines. A stink was made of it, public tickets reopened, and I eventually procured a ticket- to game 5 here. Oh well. Went back to the Lazy dog for finale- it was nice, but clearly the ecstasy of 04 was not there as the scene cleared out much more quickly.
2013. Stayed at my Girlfriend's sisters in Florida. She and her husband are rabid Tiger fans from Michigan- that was an exciting series to watch together. So was the Cards- never thought they'd beat the Karma of game 3, or have Buccholtz hang in long enough in game 4.
2018- Read all year, didn't see many games. Finally jumped aboard for playoffs and enjoyed starting with Yankees. We all know each series was more nail biting than the final scores showed. Unfortunately, between difficulty at work and less time available, I taped all the games and made a choice not to see game 5 live. Did get to perform musically at a party, but had to fast forward through game.. I'm embarrassed, but I feel I missed the final boat, just not connecting emotionally like in the past. Lack time but will read some of these posts. Thanks all for your moment by moment time capsules. Particularly appreciate sox 040718 comment that this will be a permanent memory. Yes, just as my all time favorite will always be- 1975,
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Post by tonyc on Oct 27, 2018 2:26:01 GMT -5
Goddam! Eovaldi will need another
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Post by tonyc on Oct 20, 2018 15:49:40 GMT -5
1975- Given how close it was and how great Rice already was, highly likely they win if he’s not injured- his dafacto replacement was Cecile Cooper- great player later, but as Yaz replaced Rice in left, Cooper went to first and went 1 for 20. Same with Tony C in 67. 1986- Glad you brought it up about Seaver, whom wrters considered their hottest pitcher down the stretch other than Clemmens, and don’t you think that all time gamer (I was in NY for ‘69) would have come back big in his last career games against his Mets. When they finally won in 2004, it was a result of exorcising several demons- NOT having those key injuries and NOT having key miscalls go against them-.like Armbrister in 75 (I went to the bathroom and pulled the toilet right out of the ground)- I remember the umps rechecking a key play involving Jack Clark and getting it right. And NOT making the key idiotic manger mistakes- 75 pulling the red hot Wiloughby out after 1 inning, 86 not pinch hitting Baylor for Buckner against the lefty with the bases loaded and 2003 Grady Little.
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Post by tonyc on Oct 20, 2018 12:48:54 GMT -5
Favorite winning Sox teams?- Sorry most of you weren't around for 1975, it's still the tops. Many great star/HOF- Morgan, Rose, Bench, Perez, Yaz, Fisk, Tiant, Rice, Lynn. Also, two of the best defensive teams to ever oppose each other- 4 Gold Glovers on each team. And so exciting it did bring baseball back from being left behind football. 1978 and 1986 too, even though they lost- exciting, I was younger and the sox seemed to be my whole life back then. 2018 is different than 2004-Greatest come back ever..2007 down 3-1 to Indians with 2 19 game winners to face 2013- Going down to St. Louis with that interference and sore armed Bucholtz next (his 4 innings were THE key to that year)- This year they were never behind like any others, didn't have to face that adversity and the drama it created. However, we all know that the final scores and wins belie how close and vulnerable they were pitch by pitch to two outstanding and dangerous teams which constantly threatened our pitchers who at times lacked command. It was thrilling enough to take me back from skepticism about the greed, lack of loyalty, lack of action (vs. Hockey)- and yes the criticism this same group of players did so recently receive in the press. They are obviously tight and very lovable and exciting athletically and I'm glad to be back for this ride, perhaps our last (other than next year) for a long time.
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Post by tonyc on Oct 18, 2018 19:07:12 GMT -5
Hi All,
It’s been a while- due to preoccupation with work, the country, and also some disaffection with Baseball both actionwise and just the greed and lack of loyalty to team vs. Hockey (looking at likely free agents Mookie and Bogaerts). However, started watching every game vs. Yanks and this series and yes, very much back for now- thanks to you all for this wonderful forum! Some observations- Yes in 50 years that is one of the best postseason games I’ve ever seen- perhaps not as clean as 1975 game 6, but just as nail biting. Sacrilege, but as someone sitting in right field at Shea Stadium where Clemente made a diving catch to save Bob Moose no hitter in 1969, he had the cannon, but I don’t know if Roberto gets to the ball Mookie did with the speed to make that all time amazing play! Two great teams- I figured the winner last night to take the series. Eovaldi showed the best righty stuff since Pedro, perhaps including Beckett 07. I wish Redsox had a manager like Cora all those past times- he showed such skill, ie, in recognizing when Porecello in his first game this series, still with a good pitch count and still not giving up runs, was having harder foul balls hit off him, and drifting in command just a bit and pulled him. But given that, and yes I know Barnes has been overused, and sat down after he got that one batter out. Regardless, not bringing him back for the 8th and using Kimbrel for a 6 out save was a total Grady Little move and SHOULD have cost them the series- thanks AB. And thanks to you all!
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Post by tonyc on Jun 8, 2018 10:06:53 GMT -5
Having never seen Beeks before here's what I observed last night. I don't agree with Eck that he was a "total disaster." Detroit got a few Fenway hits and lucky placements and timely hits so it wasn't as horrific as the number of runs. Also, he made some adjustments and did better. Obviously he had juices overflowing which may have compromised his command and also when fastballs didn't play as well at this level started nibbling to put fuel on the fire. That said, I did not see potential for a top or middle starter in the sense that his fastball lacked plane, and movement so that if he did not command it or sequence it well it was hammered by big league hitters. Ironically, I saw him more as a starter than a reliever based on the single performance. Granted, I was oblivious to how smooth his delivery was, and won't project how many clicks he'd add out of the pen. But I saw a three to four pitch mix without anything plus, other than perhaps the cutter. The backdoor curve had movement and he kept it down and got strikes. The changeup could become fringe/ average- he located it down and away, but just didn't get strikes. Cutter had nice movement, and the fastball in the zone got hammered too much- unless he got it up in the zone or on the peripheries or sequenced it off the offspeed pitches. He's got some homework in AAA and may perform better in spot starts, and could be in the running next year for a spot (assuming and hoping we don't have rotation injuries this year).
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Post by tonyc on May 19, 2018 14:01:23 GMT -5
Great year, though frustrating that so many external factors conspired against them for the playoffs: Playing every two days for more than the last month was unique to the Bruins and, exhausted them- prior to beginning a whole second grueling marathon of the playoffs and probably contributed to the large number of injuries they finished the year with- in the exit interviews 6 of their top nine forwards and 3 of the top 4 defensemen were either taken out by the last round, playing very compromised, or coming back from injuries like concussions not at full speed. You top that off with such disgraceful primarily one sided officiating against them- cited by numerous writers and broadcasters- Michel Bergeron even stated several referees should have been reprimanded. Take the sum total of all the above and the on ice product which was simply analyzed as "Tampa was a better team, more depth, better 5 on 5 play and deserved to win" may have all been turned upside down. We will never know. But it's unfortunate that the best team in the NHL from November through March was deprived of their chance, possibly by external factors.
If I'm Jacobs and Cam Neely I would press like hell to never again have a heavier schedule than all the other teams in the last 6 weeks before the playoffs. Also, for at least one play per game, maybe two, all plays (including "on ice calls" such as penalties, but leaving the offsides rule as is) need to be subject to video review as league wide during the season and during the playoffs the officiating was inexcusable and this would serve to not only get calls corrected, but give rotten officials embarrassment, and hopefully eventually the boot. Lastly, as per Ken Dryden's book, concussions on dirty plays should be severely reprimanded- it's a joke to let players slide on the basis of whether the injured player comes back, turned or looked down at the last moment, or had a head injury with contact also generated elsewhere. Keep it very simple- if a player gets a head injury, had his numbers facing back-or released the puck a while ago- it's a severe- as in 10 game reprimand, escalating to 20, 40, 80 then lifetime ban for each offense period. The player loses pay and team is fined. Without that implementation, a very high percent of the league gets concussions currently, and players are compromised for their careers and lifetimes. This is the fastest, most exciting, most athletic and truly greatest sport but it needs cleanup- and it can still retain a quality of action and clean hitting.
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Post by tonyc on Feb 12, 2018 22:04:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the wonderful history, in particular JMS (abbreviating). I particularly didn’t like the Sox trading away Cecile Cooper, as he was a consistently great hitter from the minors on up. Oconell on the whole, it seemed made more bad trades than good, but this was far superseded by the amazing and continuous rich farm system during his era. There were constantly great hitters, and even lots of great pitching prospects too. A Detroit scout around 1970 said the Sox had more good young pitchers than anyone. Unfortunately, this was an era of abuse and sore arms. Some he probably had in mind were Mcglothen, Curtis, Skok, Garmen, Pole, Moret, Brett. These were the nostalgic Sox of my youth which, despite not winning as they did later, I loved more. I played baseball in Montreal during summers with my cousin and loved that pinkish color on their baseball cards. Around the clock we either played baseball, practiced it, played stratomatic and talked it or went to Jarry Park for Expos games- my aunt finally had to ban baseball talk at the table during meals.
On the whole I agree with Theo being the best. Duquette second- despite a lack of social skills he was clever and singlehandedly made low cost aquisitions prior to 1995, similar to Cherington prior to 2013 that won that division, aside from other successful seasons with clear limits by Harrington until the very end. Oconell would be close to tied with him. And the Dombrowski on the whole has been good, though limited their window severely. Gorman trails all of them, as he was a nice person but had too much of a win now mentality which scared me even before Bagwell.
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Post by tonyc on Jan 10, 2018 21:56:44 GMT -5
I agree with the odd seeming non correlation of post season stars to regular season performance. It's probably small sample size and I imagine there is more correlation than thought. However, I remember off-hand how Ted Williams (though he was apparently injured), Willy Mays didn't shine, whereas Marty Barrett was a force for the sox in post season. As for "my fathers"- or my Redsox, yes dopey managing and I'll also add key injuries circumvented them. I believe these were excellent teams not really short of much- and also they faced 4 of the best teams in NL history, real powerhouses in those WS losses- and took them to 7 games in all cases. In '67 they were without Tony C, in '75 without Jim Rice, and in '86 people forget they traded for Tom Seaver in his last season but he was hurt for post season. Down the stretch he was their best starter other than Clemmens. And boy with the way Nipper and Boyd got lit up- and him pitching against his old Mets it's likely they would have won in less than 7 with him there. 1975 was even more boneheaded than it appears- Fisk was going crazy all season with Darrell Johnson's decisions. In the 9th of game 7 he pinch-hit for Wiloughby with Cooper- who in effect replaced Rice and Yaz moved to left-who was 1 for 19 and there were 2 out and nobody on. And Wiloughby was a former starting pitcher, capable of going 4 innings into extras, and had his good sinker going and rendered the Reds helpless in his one inning of work. They put in Burton, a rookie Loogy- disgraceful. The decision I'm intrigued about was in 2003- those 3 relievers you mentioned all had mid nineties stuff and were throwing well. Yet it's been alluded to that Little had less options than people thought- anyone have any insight on this? All I know was that Yankee Stadium was louder than it's whole history I believe- it had been called the greatest game ever played there- and there was unthinkable pressure on whomever would come in to pitch.
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Post by tonyc on Dec 11, 2017 19:33:02 GMT -5
In the context of the Stanton deal I am glad that for decades I literally prayed for a single series win and we’ve had three. I’m glad that I care a bit less about the Sox than I have given their own players greed, poor behavior and several writers reports on being a less likable team than they’ve had in years. I’m glad I’ve cared much more deeply about the Bruins the last few years and things look great in the future. We’ve gone through the plus and minus of Dombrowski’s style ad nauseum and I do find a downside in terms of rooting interest when we’re bereft of prospects. Finally, I will reiterate a point I made months ago- after years of just throwing money and seeing what will stick Brian Cashman has done his best work ever as a gm over the last year. He’s stayed below the cap, maximized prospect return for players and rentals. He’s finally flexing Yankee type might and is set to do more in a year, but heck Judge seems like a good guy and as a group this team is probably a nicer bunch than the Redsox, so I’m thank goodness not sick to my stomach like when they signed Rich Gossage or the winter they signed both Texiera and Sabbathia. Of course he could get hurt and decline and be a saddle on them too.
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Post by tonyc on Dec 4, 2017 1:30:56 GMT -5
How refreshing amongst todays greedy players! Surely the Redsox will lose a chunk of the Killer B’s due to inability to satisfy their greed. Sorry for the rant, but great to see a Seattle win out! Loved it when they were probably fighting for their very existence some time ago in the playoffs against the Yanks and beat them. Now we can root for him not in NY.
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Post by tonyc on Nov 13, 2017 12:22:28 GMT -5
This next 4 weeks are a key juncture in the next 5 years for the Bruins. I’ve been aware of it, and it’s been beautifully articulated in the Globe. With teams at only a 25% likelihood of moving into playoff contention if not there by Thanksgiving the pressure from Jacobs to make the playoffs may be there. Yet with the prospects not yet with the team, as well as those on the varsity at the fledgling stage, this is not the year to blow assets just to get in for a round or two. I don’t give too much of a damn about this year, but care about the next 8 deeply, and am quite nervous stupidity may reign. Just hopeful Sweeny bought enough good will with last years playoff berth that he can hold firm and not do anything now or this year. The promise is great and in fact it speaks well to the talent level already with the team that they could play .500 with an injury level that most teams would be way into last place with.
The Crown Jewels not yet on the varsity- defensemen Lauzon, Zboril, Vaakanainen , Lindgren, O’Gara and forwards Cehlarik, JFK, Senyshyn, Gabrielle, Frederick,Studnika and Donato must be guarded. Note the haul Colorado finally netted from Duchene- thank goodness Sweeney resisted. If he can do so again, by the 2019 playoffs and years afterwards the Bruins will be serious cup contenders.
I also disagree with several writers who feel there is too much talent for the space and it must be “culled.” Yes eventually, but there are already more rookies than most teams have and the prospects have too much variability and not enough value to make the best decisions. I.e- had Zboril been dumped last year during his maturity issues phase, he would not have garnered the value he currently has. Look at how much more decisive and stronger on the puck Heinen is than a year ago. Cehlarik, when back from injury is already showing more speed and a 200 foot game than a year ago. Good things come to those who wait!
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Post by tonyc on Nov 9, 2017 12:15:23 GMT -5
Just tragic. As a medical professional, with a girlfriend who volunteers at “the shining stars” program to teach children with cancer to ski, I sometimes have contact with children who have cancer and arthritis. Please have mercy on them everyone, <deleted>
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Post by tonyc on Nov 1, 2017 18:15:18 GMT -5
Great post Sox champs, which I relate to in a number of ways. Growing up with Strato-matic I was much more into those stats than the modern ones and now just enjoy the hardcore work of Eric and the rest without fully understanding. Without “fan” involvement in football, I can simply occasionally watch a Super Bowl game with total enjoyment because of the lack of attachment to outcome- this is exactly what some eastern spiritual philosophies suggest is a road to happiness of life in general. Yes, I agree these special games seem quite American. When I was living in NY with a woman, who was quite affected- as we all were- by 9/11, she loved the fact that I was simply watching baseball games- probably a parallel to those fans, and soldiers keeping tabs during WW2, as an important bridge to a very significant cultural fantasy without the dark gravitas of the rest of world events.
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Post by tonyc on Oct 21, 2017 14:50:03 GMT -5
In most cases I’d agree. But in game 7 1975 WS, facing one of the scariest all time Reds lineups, JIm Wiloughby had them looking silly with his good sinker and was a former starting pitcher who could go 4 innings. These were smaller bullpens and Darell Johnson pinch hit for him after only one inning with a 1 for 19 Cecil Cooper with 2 outs, nobody on base, bringing in a rookie JIm Burton who blew the game next inning. 1986 too when the Sox manager let Bill Buckner hit with bases loaded against a lefty reliever- with Don Baylor on the bench- and Stapleton as a defensive replacement ready, just so he could “end with the same nine” he started with. Then there was 2003 decision not to pull Pedro. It been alluded to that- despite the Sox having three fine mid-nineties throwing relievers in that pen he had less options than were publicly known. Anyone have any further insight on that? I do recall that with the entire Yankee stadium yelling “who’s your daddy” at Pedro it was the loudest I’d ever heard a ballpark, and a frightful spot for any reliever to enter.
So while for the most part it’s the players, in extremely close 7 game series with an over the top idiotic decision, the manager can be a game changer.
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Post by tonyc on Sept 29, 2017 22:31:43 GMT -5
Bo would have become much better with time at baseball. One writer described his potential as not just Dave Winfield but Mickey Mantle. How appropriate- Winfield was one of only 3 athletes ever to be drafted by three major sports.
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Post by tonyc on Sept 24, 2017 21:58:14 GMT -5
What if, to take it easy, he played DH, occasionally taking the field to keep his skills. And he just pitched in relief? Or he pitched as a starter, and just DH'd here and there? Of course hitting full time and pitching just occasionally would be the toughest to maintain.
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Post by tonyc on Sept 24, 2017 21:35:27 GMT -5
Great to see some Bruins talk here! I go back to the Orr days. Thanks Tex's for the threads. So with Kirk Luedeke out of the picture, he actually highly reccommended Bruins Network, and it's a great informative site. They feel Subban has outplayed McIntyre thus far, and speculates the same thing. Kirk has in the past thought Mc will finish ahead, but as pointed out here goalies are really tricky and Subban has great athleticism, so who knows. I have not been this excited about a young crop since Levielle, Fergus, Kluzak, Bourque early 80's. Of course injuries took down two of those and Fergus just didn't have great motivation. Then was Thornton, Samsonov. But what is unique here is the depth.. I just haven't seen anything like it , very excited! Sweeney did a great job holding his ground both during the off-season and at the trade deadline, as even fine writers like Hagg's had thought he'd have to pick and choose prospects to trade to become a contender. I love that he's held on- let other teams get desperate with injuries and come to the B's for Spooner, etc.- after, of course he proves that he's improved and worthy of a good price. Then one at a time get some picks for players and keep this window going a long time!
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Post by tonyc on Sept 23, 2017 16:19:26 GMT -5
Glad you had a good trip Telson. I just went to Rushmore for the first time- got a great website from a pulmonologist buddy- airnow.gov, which will give live air quality reports for anywhere in the country- so that you don't head anywhere during dangerous smoke.
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