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Post by Gwell55 on Jan 7, 2014 20:31:02 GMT -5
But surely you find solace in the fact that, barring a career going off the tracks due to injury or whatever reason, those underpaid, superior players are going to join the group of overpaid guys just a few years down the road? In the end, you're going to get handsomely compensated if you're a good player for the first half of your career. Vernon Wells is an extreme example, and just looking at the present, his contract is a joke, but he did produce 18.5 rWAR (16.5 fWAR) over four years while making an average of $2.2 million during those seasons. There are too many variables in the meantime to make this a practical proposition. Imagine Mike Trout has a career ending injury tomorrow, what's he supposed to do, call Vernon Wells and ask for a loan? How about get a job like everybody else that once was something and now is something different!!!! I get tired of this they need more when they are young because they might get hurt or fail later. You do know that is the way of the world. Heck when I was a young gun I was making very very good money myself and wanted more too. But reality hit and I got hurt and had to change my career. It cost me a ton of what I couldn't make anymore and now I make a heck of a lot less then I'm worth too. And nobody whined and complained that I didn't get a bigger piece of the pie. So I'm sorry but I'm not gonna whine about a bunch of players who have a chance to make more than me but if they get hurt make about what I do now! Since when should all the ballplayers in this country no matter their supposed entitlement have something different than what the rest of the workers in here have. That is how I feel about it anyway as I like the players gambled in my profession and reaped what I reaped til I got injured and then did something else. Isn't that what a life is?
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 31, 2013 0:14:17 GMT -5
My guess is that he typed it on an iPhone. If only he type with emoticons and more egregious abbreviations luv u chip ttyl <333 :* Still, that's no excuse for typing that way. Whether I'm responding to work e-mails on my phone or e-mailing my compadres, I still try to maintain some level of eligibility. I mean, when someone who is playing a sport for a living and you're a lawyer/president of the Yankees and they're writing more cohesively than you, shouldn't you feel some moral obligation to yourself? It just baffles me. Hey do you want me to call the ACLU and sick em after you under the ADA laws or something? You do know he is handicapped and they will get right after you for that ..... I got proof even if you don't... After all he is a Yankee and that is proof enough!!!!!!!
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 28, 2013 22:54:15 GMT -5
Having said that, was anyone watching the playoffs? Red Sox starters matched the tigers pitch for pitch, inning for inning If you're seriously offering up the results of a seven game series as proof of anything, I don't even know what to say to you. (And even if we could draw conclusions off such a thing, the Tigers starters were much more impressive than what the Red Sox rolled out in that series; the Sox won in large part because they hit two grand slams of Tigers relievers while their own bullpen was insanely good. But I guess we have to go all revisionist history here because EVERYONE KNOWS starting pitching ALWAYS wins in the playoffs (disclaimer: it doesn't), and the Red Sox won, so their starting pitching must have been better.) Well Fenway you should know than that the goal of every starting pitcher isn't to have the best era in the series ... it is to Keep it close and the team in the game until their offense can win it! Geez don't you listen to all those pitcher interviews? ?? So according to all those interviews the starting pitching for the Sox was the best in the world!!! Geez these cyber kids today go figure..........
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 28, 2013 14:24:37 GMT -5
again you do not know what your talking about. You are calling this kid garbage because of some fall game!! you are a piece of work. MLB will not be calling you for your impression on this kid or anyone else. This player has one of the best pitch recognition eyes in the country, I guess you would have seen that and his approach if you attended the WWBA in October this year, but you did not. In speaking to his coaches from NEBaseball, Evosheild Canes, and his high school coach they are all in agreement about this kids future= MLB. Just spoke to the NE baseball fall coach and he confirmed Bellinger never K'd 3 times ever playing for him. In fact the coach told me that most HS and all of the college teams that he played would not pitch to him, as was the case all summer!!!! YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU CALL A PLAYER " GARBAGE" LOL, seems both of you should calm down just a bit ... gee if you haven't figured it out yet opinions are just that personal opinions. Anyway as of right now the kid has a few projections out there to choose from if you search hard enough. All the ones I saw from late this fall say 2nd to 5th round talent so from there it would seem that the spring evaluations will tell his direction.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 26, 2013 18:20:20 GMT -5
I bet his minions putting those binders together get paid next to nothing. Yea, those minions in the 75,000-99,000 starting out wage must live a pure He double toothpick life.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 26, 2013 13:35:29 GMT -5
agents tend to reap 25% of those deals vs. 10% on the MLB contract. My understanding is that these are about twice as high as reality. I think agents get 3-5% of mlb player-contracts (unlike NBA and NFL these are not mandated), and about 10-20% (usually ~15%) of non player-contracts. Sounds like your pretty close. It shows here that Boras non-surprisingly makes the most at a 4.7 percent commission. work.chron.com/average-sports-agents-commission-21083.html
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 22, 2013 19:47:08 GMT -5
A guy we used to have, Che-Hsuan Lin, is the type of CF depth we could use in Pawtucket. As far as I know, Lin is still in the Astros' organization and not on their 40. Lin just signed a minor league deal with Texas so he is out. Matt Eddy ?@matteddyba Add OF Che-Hsuan Lin to list of minor league free agents signed by #Rangers along with 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff and 2B Brent Lillibridge. The Rangers have inked Taiwanese outfielder Che-Hsuan Lin to a minor league deal, Baseball America's Matt Eddy tweets. Signed by the Red Sox as an amateur free agent in 2007, Lin got his only 12 major league plate appearances in 2012 with Boston, swatting three singles in 12 plate appearances. He's hit .253/.349/.339 in his seven minor league seasons.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 21, 2013 16:03:21 GMT -5
Unless there was no Yankees offer for $140. Or he didn't want to play for the Yankees. In which case it is again proper to call them the MFY's to our hearts consent!
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 21, 2013 11:45:46 GMT -5
Rakuten also has to think about the potential PR hit they could take by not posting a player they already agreed to post and who really wants to be posted. Yea, and they also would have a PR hit when their local team had less than a "Stellar" chance at repeating their World Championship win. And just when was this 'they already agreed to post" supposed to be? All we have for sure is some US writer say so on a second hand report of what they stated to a Japanese reporter??? There are all kinds of things Mega-rich owners take in consideration of what THEY want or what is best for their interests. One of them being Championships for their team which I'm sure brings in more bucks for their franchise. We over here always (rightfully so) want the best to be in the US so we can win our "WORLD" championship but when it comes push to shove so do the other countries want their "world" championships too. Just saying their is a lot of different factors for the Japanese owners.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 20, 2013 18:13:50 GMT -5
no, because the posting team doesnt get to pick which team he goes to. If 5 teams each put up a bid of 20 million, then each of them an negotiate with the player, not just the team that also bid for some other player. Does if it is already setup in advance like what Badler was talking. That seems to be the theme anyway.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 19, 2013 21:19:46 GMT -5
I'm down with this. If they wanted to make a splash they could have signed Ellsbury for quite a bit less. His speed plays up defensively and offensively in that park's outfield, and that's where their holes were and still are. The infield was in good shape. Miller looks like a player and he complements their best hitter, Seager, nicely. There's still hope for Smoak and I thought Franklin showed promise. The young pitching is fantastic, but I'm not sure what their overall strategy is, or if they even have one. Yup. I was shocked to read that they were focused more on Choo and Beltran than Ellsbury. Ells, as you mention, seemed like as perfect an addition as a major FA signing can be for a team. Still, Cano's middle-of-the-order presence and incredible durability are certainly appealing to a team that was desperate for a major addition, making the need to move a solid but unspectacular prospect in Franklin an unnecessary cause for concern in the big picture. It did come out that Ellsbury did say he didn't want to go to Seattle. I'm sure that kind of says most likely he wasn't interested to go there. I don't blame him either Seattle is not the best baseball town.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 18, 2013 17:38:49 GMT -5
“@jcoskrey: Rakuten official told Kyodo a decision on Tanaka could take a while. Nothing decided or simple (via Kyodo wire) #NPB #MLB” Probably working out the money to Rakyten and the other players that they have to post and get signed first like Badler forecast. lol
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 18, 2013 14:24:38 GMT -5
www.purplerow.com/2013/10/23/4948064/2013-colorado-rockies-player-reviews-jonathan-herrera"no pop, no speed and at age 28, he has likely reached his big league potential. What Herrera does bring to the table though is often overlooked. Solid defense at multiple infield positions and the ability to take good situational at bats." " Jeff Huson for one (take that for what it's worth) raves about how Herrera effects the clubhouse with his upbeat personality and constant smile. " Doesn't look like he has an options left either. grrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 17, 2013 23:58:23 GMT -5
From the article: Castillo is short but has a strong, athletic frame at 5-foot-9, 185 pounds. His best tool is his speed, as he’s an above-average runner and one of the better base stealers in Cuba. More of a doubles hitter than a big home run threat, Castillo puts a charge into the ball with a line-drive righthanded swing, though he can get long to the ball at times and some scouts think he’s prone to chasing pitches off the plate. Primarily a center fielder in Cuba, Castillo has also played some second and third base, so his versatility could be a draw for some teams. He’s an aggressive, high-energy player, though some teams see him as a fourth outfielder.
So hardly a sure thing... We have to sign this guy. Petey could help him shop at the stores with the best little boys dept! (I would have posted a pic of Louie Delparma but I'm afraid of my post being deleted) And when Mookie gets here they could all chip in and get their own little tykes play set.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 16, 2013 19:57:33 GMT -5
...Not meant as a quibble with your post but Mookie stole 38 bases vs. only 4 CS. Thanks. That was a straight misread. LOL, you had part of it right ... that was his AZ Fall League stats 8-2. Seems like all three stops last year he had 2 CS.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 16, 2013 17:15:43 GMT -5
Actually there are quite a few. Including Adam Jones, and Alfonso Soriano. What's clear from looking at the data is that if you have enough power you can easilly survive a high BB/K rate. Middlebrooks is a player who already has plus power that is improving. Adam Jones K rate is 19% for his Career whereas Soriano's is 21%. While both strike out quite a bit, neither are as high as Middlebrooks. Seems fair to only count the first 660 or so for all three ... K are all in the 20's and those walks on both in that time are less than Will's walk if that is even possible. Both are pretty comparable and now after those times are pretty successful today.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 16, 2013 16:28:01 GMT -5
Speier did say Red Sox THIS YEAR are likely out but what about next year? Golden Eagles Trying To Convince Tanaka To Stay In Japan By Steve Adams [December 16, 2013 at 8:18am CST] The Rakuten Golden Eagles will try to convince Masahiro Tanaka to stay in Japan for one more season, according to a Sponichi Report passed along by NPB Tracker's Patrick Newman (Twitter link). Taking things a step further, a source indicated over the weekend to George A. King III of the New York Post that Tanaka won't be posted until after the 2014 season. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/golden-eagles-trying-to-convince-tanaka-to-stay-in-japan.html nypost.com/2013/12/14/source-tanaka-may-stay-in-japan/
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 16, 2013 14:10:33 GMT -5
Finally some honesty here. Those that want to sign a player six years older and far more expensive to essentially make Middlebrooks a bench player or minor league fodder for two years DON'T THINK HE'S VERY GOOD. The true reason for this, in my opinion is that some people can't get over the idea that a player who doesn't walk a lot can be a valuable player. That's horse ...... in my opinion. We all know that if Garrin Cecchini has similar struggles in his first full year, jmei will not be clamoring to replace him. Why? Because he's a sabermetric darling. Middlebrooks was undeniably terrible for the first ten weeks of 2013. According to reports this was driven by poor swing mechanics, injuries and a poor offseason work ethic. He went down to the minors, eventually swallowed his pride, came back, and did much better. Middlebrooks' detractors seem to automatically dismiss this improved performance as luck. That's unwise and unfair to the player. Young players struggle sometimes in their first full season in the majors. Many, go on to have good major league careers. Including Steven Drew himself who was awful in his age 24 season. If turn them into bench players, or AAA fodder you lose out down the road. To add some credence to this, look at Middlebrook's 2012 and then the post AAA comeback: 2012 .288 .325 .509 .835 post AAA .276 .329 .476 .805 286PA 13 W 70K's BABIP .335 156PA 11 W 38K's BABIP .320 Looks like about the same guy to me.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 15, 2013 20:46:20 GMT -5
Very few of you guys "get" why Choo would be a better option for us than spending the money on Napoli but at this point, what is the point of even discussing kit. It's falling on deaf ears. The objections are like a constant loop. Who cares if he hits left handers well if he has an overall wRC+ of 151. What part of that do you guys not get? Do you understand what that means? The guy is a star offensive performer. Overall, a stud hitter. Good luck finding a "legitimate star player" going forward as they are damm hard to find on the FA market in the next several years. Check and you will find that to be true. Like 2-3 of them maybe per year. As was the case this year. It gets even worse next year in all likelihood. Hit charts are an obvious consideration, as in baseball 101. Should we ignore what a player has done in the past? Why don't we just forget everything and flip a coin? Choo has floated by. We are going into next year, worse than this year. There is still hope for Tanaka and the faint possibility that they will chose to still go over the luxury tax limit. But even I am not optimistic about either as a likely development. If the sox had wanted a true star outfielder for that long term deal it certainly would of been Ells not Choo. He can run (top Stolen base threat in league), Quality fielder, solid at leadoff, in fact solid offense all round and could play in Boston's high pressure setting. Just which one of those qualities could Choo handle for 20 Million for a sustained time? Choo doesn't necessarily play a position of need as Nava/Gomes's offense and left field play is clearly close enough to Choo's offense/fielding that we don't need to overspend in years and dollars for that small of an upgrade. Nava/Gomes played well under heavy pressure and we have no clue if Choo is capable of that or not. Naps has proven he could play under heavy pressure in Boston. Shown he is a solid contributor at cleanup. He has a short term deal. Plays a position of need for this Sox team. Having Choo is a big gamble to see if he could make up what ells gave us ... to make this team equal to last year as you say.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 14, 2013 17:11:21 GMT -5
Depth - if u read the previous conversations it will make more sense. I did read the previous conversations but my point is that Ryan Dempster is not comparable to 2006 Bronson Arroyo. Since Dempster would likely be starting out in the pen, you could argue it would actually be more beneficial to give that roster spot to a younger arm. We already have depth at AAA. Dempster ate a lot of innings last year but it wasn't really above replacement level. Thats valuable but not really worth $13.5M. People are saying that we should hold onto him in case we have an injury but even in that case there are guys at AAA who could step up that didn't really exist in 2006. That point has been brought up by a few others on this forum. Another downfall to keeping Dempster in the pen to me is we really don't have many spots for players who have options in that scenerio. How do we send anyone down for short term injuries or when someone if we need one more pitcher when the pen is too tired and over worked. We need a couple of option guys not all veterans.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 14, 2013 12:32:49 GMT -5
That's an 83 wRC+, which is bad but still much better than, say, Daniel Nava (71 wRC+ versus lefties in 2011-13) or Andre Ethier (67 wRC+). Looking at Victorino and Ellsbury over the last 3 then there contracts wouldn't it be worth it to note that Choo would be a platoon candidate not worth the 18-20M contract they are seeking over 5? Seems to me Victorino has a much better chance at 13M to be a full time player than Choo at this stage of their careers moving forward (with there splits). We should pass on Choo as the platoon we have should replace his bat in left especially with the cost being so great.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 14, 2013 11:49:33 GMT -5
Ben isn't going after Choo because you don't spend $20+ M over 5-7 years for a player who: 1. Is on the wrong side of 30 2. Cannot hit left handed pitching. This isn't a case of platoon splits. It's a case of him being inept facing them.Taking Napoli out and replacing with Choo makes you very very susceptible to LHP. Jacoby does alright vs LHP which is part of the reason he's arguably worth 20+m. A 92 wRC+ is not inept for a lefty vs lefty. Of course, when we use the last 3 years that everyone yesterday was screaming is a must to talk about in the Lester thread we don't get very much to like do we: 2011 .269 .336 .352 .688 2012 .199 .318 .286 .605 2013 .215 .347 .265 .612
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 14, 2013 11:38:23 GMT -5
Choo would have put up better offensive numbers for us than Ellsbury did last year. And not hurt us at all in LF, compared to what we have there now. And it would have enabled us to trade Nava for substantial return value. I'm not buying the "What about Nava giving you most of that performance for 10% of the cost" argument. We could have traded Nava in a heartbeat for real value. Ya, he is even better at HBP than Victorino, maybe we could have two starters out sore at the top of the lineup instead of Shane being such a loner.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 13, 2013 19:19:27 GMT -5
He goes to the Cubs after all. The Cubs announced that they have signed outfielder Ryan Kalish to a minor league deal with an invitation to Major League Spring Training. Kalish, 25, was originally drafted by the Red Sox when Cubs president Theo Epstein and GM Jed Hoyer were with Boston. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/minor-moves-kalish-baker-machado.html
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 12, 2013 21:10:03 GMT -5
Wasn't that a malcontent too?
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