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9/30-10/2 Wild Card Games Thread
ericmvan
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 2, 2013 22:19:08 GMT -5
Indians slugging .500 with the bases empty and .231 .214, now, with runners on.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 2, 2013 22:27:33 GMT -5
Finny. the camera just showed a guy in the stands who looks like a refugee from a ZZ Top concert at Fenway. He was dressed in Red Sox gear, with a fake beard and sunglasses. A hint of things to come?
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 2, 2013 22:39:57 GMT -5
NINE flocking hits and zero flocking runs. Terrible job Indians. We can do better then that
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 2, 2013 22:47:53 GMT -5
The Rays will eliminate the Red Sox and win the world series. You heard it here first.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 2, 2013 22:57:59 GMT -5
The Rays will eliminate the Red Sox and win the world series. You heard it here first. Don't know about the Series, but I do think the Rays will beat the Sox unfortunately. I was hoping for either the Rangers or Indians but I expected the Sox would face the Rays. I wonder if we'll be hearing anything about the four day layoff soon if the Sox don't hit the way they have. The Rays seem to be in rhythm while the Sox haven't played a meaningful game in awhile. I think the pressure is on the Sox for Game 1 and the pressure on the Rays for Game 2. I think for the Sox to win, it's important they take Game 1, Game 3, and Game 4. I'd be surprised by a Sox win in either Game 2 or 5 as I'd think they'd pretty much have to pitch a shutout to beat David Price.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 2, 2013 23:07:57 GMT -5
Tough luck. Oh well, there is always next year.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 2, 2013 23:08:03 GMT -5
The Rays will eliminate the Red Sox and win the world series. You heard it here first. If things fall right for them, they certainly have the pitching to do it. They'll need to get their hitting shoes on also, but they can definitely hold down the Sox' scoring. I'm hopeful Boston can get the drop on them in a few of those games, but they're tough and well-coached. So when might we know the names on the roster? I take it the team was waiting till the winner of this series to figure that out.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 2, 2013 23:09:03 GMT -5
The Rays will eliminate the Red Sox and win the world series. You heard it here first. Don't know about the Series, but I do think the Rays will beat the Sox unfortunately. I was hoping for either the Rangers or Indians but I expected the Sox would face the Rays. I wonder if we'll be hearing anything about the four day layoff soon if the Sox don't hit the way they have. The Rays seem to be in rhythm while the Sox haven't played a meaningful game in awhile. I think the pressure is on the Sox for Game 1 and the pressure on the Rays for Game 2. I think for the Sox to win, it's important they take Game 1, Game 3, and Game 4. I'd be surprised by a Sox win in either Game 2 or 5 as I'd think they'd pretty much have to pitch a shutout to beat David Price. I don't think it will be that hard. The Indians shit the bed today. Which I highly doubt we will do. How the hell do you get 9+ hits and get flicking shutout?
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Post by beasleyrockah on Oct 2, 2013 23:13:17 GMT -5
David Price CAN'T lose. Just like Verlander last year, with all that momentum, when he pitched lights out in the World Series. Or the year before, when Lee-Halladay-Hamels formed the perfect 5 game series rotation and totally didn't lose to Chris Carpenter. Twice. Oh, and all those playoff games Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz never lost. Ace pitchers never lose individual playoff games, ever.
Seriously, I respect Price a lot, but he's not the boogeyman. If you're going to claim they have no shot at beating Price (especially at home both times) you can't expect anything from this team in the postseason. What happens when they have the Tigers rotation? Or Kershaw/Greinke? Or any number of situations...like...cmon with this obnoxious negativity. I'm pretty sure everyone posting this rhetoric was real confident in their mediocre projections for the Red Sox this year and were proven dead wrong. Let's all enjoy the ride without listing the complete list of worst case scenarios. Those are things we can keep to ourselves.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 2, 2013 23:35:21 GMT -5
David Price CAN'T lose. Just like Verlander last year, with all that momentum, when he pitched lights out in the World Series. Or the year before, when Lee-Halladay-Hamels formed the perfect 5 game series rotation and totally didn't lose to Chris Carpenter. Twice. Oh, and all those playoff games Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz never lost. Ace pitchers never lose individual playoff games, ever. It really is remarkable how every year we (the royal "we") talk about the team with the best starting pitching being unstoppable in the playoffs, and every year we're wrong about it.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 2, 2013 23:36:57 GMT -5
Everything we feel about Price, the Rays should feel about Lester. Fun fact: the current Red Sox have hit .219 with a 651 OPS against Price. The current Rays have hit .219 with a 649 OPS against Lester.
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Post by jmei on Oct 2, 2013 23:38:53 GMT -5
Red Sox pitchers have a 2.93 ERA against the Rays, their best mark against any opponent they faced more than three times. They won the season series 12-7 and went 3-2 in games started by David Price (with the two losses started by Felix Doubront and the three wins started by Jon Lester (2) and Clay Buchholz (1)).
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Post by brianthetaoist on Oct 3, 2013 5:36:50 GMT -5
The Rays will eliminate the Red Sox and win the world series. You heard it here first. Don't know about the Series, but I do think the Rays will beat the Sox unfortunately. I was hoping for either the Rangers or Indians but I expected the Sox would face the Rays. I wonder if we'll be hearing anything about the four day layoff soon if the Sox don't hit the way they have. The Rays seem to be in rhythm while the Sox haven't played a meaningful game in awhile. I think the pressure is on the Sox for Game 1 and the pressure on the Rays for Game 2. I think for the Sox to win, it's important they take Game 1, Game 3, and Game 4. I'd be surprised by a Sox win in either Game 2 or 5 as I'd think they'd pretty much have to pitch a shutout to beat David Price. Yeah, not even sure why they're playing the games. Seriously, the Sox may only score 1 run a game, maybe 2 at most! Of course, if we're gonna be hyperbolic, the Rays may not score all series, so, you know, there's that.
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Post by jbberlo22 on Oct 3, 2013 5:43:26 GMT -5
I'm putting the over/under for longoria this series at .400 for average and .800 for slugging.
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Post by bsout2 on Oct 3, 2013 6:40:22 GMT -5
Well I say Red Sox sweep on the backs of Victorino and Middlebrooks.
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Post by ramireja on Oct 3, 2013 6:40:56 GMT -5
I'm just excited for some playoff baseball at Fenway! Regardless of the outcome, it should be fun......go sox!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 3, 2013 9:17:21 GMT -5
Is it bad that I found myself wondering...
We had a rain out against the Rays back in August... allowing Price to pitch twice in a 4 game series... then If only that umpire had not called nava out on that sac fly against the Rays back in August, we could've eliminated the Rays.
Also bringing in RDLR in a tie game against the Rays in Septemeber...smh
Hopefully this doesnt come back to haunt us
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 3, 2013 12:02:39 GMT -5
I'm amazed that anyone is pessimistic. We have the matchup edge in games 1, 3, and 5 (Moore has a 4.88 FIP since returning from the DL), and game 4 is a tossup (Archer in September has a 3.92 FIP, .347 BABIP which regresses to about .316 in that sample*, and 4.78 ERA).
*I'm currently working on a methodology to empirically regress this, based on the distribution of seasonal BABIP over the past 10 years. The current formula needs only a little tweaking.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 3, 2013 12:42:22 GMT -5
Don't know about the Series, but I do think the Rays will beat the Sox unfortunately. I was hoping for either the Rangers or Indians but I expected the Sox would face the Rays. I wonder if we'll be hearing anything about the four day layoff soon if the Sox don't hit the way they have. The Rays seem to be in rhythm while the Sox haven't played a meaningful game in awhile. I think the pressure is on the Sox for Game 1 and the pressure on the Rays for Game 2. I think for the Sox to win, it's important they take Game 1, Game 3, and Game 4. I'd be surprised by a Sox win in either Game 2 or 5 as I'd think they'd pretty much have to pitch a shutout to beat David Price. Yeah, not even sure why they're playing the games. Seriously, the Sox may only score 1 run a game, maybe 2 at most! Of course, if we're gonna be hyperbolic, the Rays may not score all series, so, you know, there's that. Oh, I forgot. It's a Red Sox board so therefore the Sox MUST win this series because we're Red Sox fans. Got it. The Rays have no shot. It's highly unlikely that a guy with Price's track record against the Sox can throw a couple of gems. Look I'm picking the Rays to win in 5. Doesn't mean that the Sox don't have a chance to win or that I don't want them to win. If Cleveland or even Texas who the Sox struggle with had been the opponent I would have picked the Sox to win and I wouldn't have drawn the ire of the board. I hope the Red Sox cream the Rays and especially Price as I have the image of him getting the last out in '08 seared into my brain and would love to see the Sox whack him around. But I don't like the matchup nor do I like all the off-days for the Sox offense or for the Rays to get their pitching in order. Hope I'm wrong and will find the crow quite delicious if the Sox beat a Tampa team that has been in the way since 2008.
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Post by jmei on Oct 3, 2013 12:52:34 GMT -5
I'm amazed that anyone is pessimistic. We have the matchup edge in games 1, 3, and 5 (Moore has a 4.88 FIP since returning from the DL), and game 4 is a tossup (Archer in September has a 3.92 FIP, .347 BABIP which regresses to about .316 in that sample*, and 4.78 ERA). *I'm currently working on a methodology to empirically regress this, based on the distribution of seasonal BABIP over the past 10 years. The current formula needs only a little tweaking. I think Price is lined up to pitch game 5 on four days' rest, but I agree mostly with the rest of this.
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Post by dd on Oct 3, 2013 13:00:52 GMT -5
I'm just excited for some playoff baseball at Fenway! Regardless of the outcome, it should be fun......go sox! I wish I were that pure a baseball fan, but I'm just not.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 3, 2013 13:15:17 GMT -5
I think people have a right to be concerned... We were so close to getting Cleveland or Texas but instead we have one of the worst possible match ups in the 1st round despite getting the best record in the mlb.
I really like Buchholz in game 3 but game 1 is a toss up and game 2 I'd give the Rays the edge.... Game 4 is also a toss up and then game 5 is as well it looks like.
Keeping my fingers crossed
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 3, 2013 13:42:20 GMT -5
I'm amazed that anyone is pessimistic. We have the matchup edge in games 1, 3, and 5 (Moore has a 4.88 FIP since returning from the DL), and game 4 is a tossup (Archer in September has a 3.92 FIP, .347 BABIP which regresses to about .316 in that sample*, and 4.78 ERA). I think Price is lined up to pitch game 5 on four days' rest, but I agree mostly with the rest of this. Yeah, I forgot about the extra off day. But that may also help us in terms of bullpen depth; there's no reason that Uehara, Breslow, and Tazawa can't pitch in every game.
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Post by okin15 on Oct 4, 2013 9:10:45 GMT -5
I think the Sox win, and in 4 games, but if it goes 5, I'd pick the Rays. Still, I'd rather face Tampa than the other Division winners, even in a short series. They're straight up just not as good as the Tigers, and somehow, the no-names from the Bay area are better too.
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