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Post by michaelgelbwasser on Jan 31, 2014 20:43:31 GMT -5
Agreed. If Hill and-or Mijares can reclaim their form during spring training, John and Ben will have some really tough choices in late March.
The bullpen looks like a huge strength.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 31, 2014 20:57:46 GMT -5
@joelsherman1: #Redsox signed LHR Rich Hill to minor lge deal. $840K in MLB. $500K in app bonuses. If not on MLB roster on 5/15, 6/30 can opt out The Red Sox are giving themselves pretty superb bullpen depth, especially on their left-handed reliever depth chart. These are the little moves that are crucial to keeping a team afloat over a long season. Couldn't agree more. If he can find even a little of the effectiveness he had during his previous stint with the team, he's another piece for what is already one of the best bullpens in either league.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jan 31, 2014 21:17:53 GMT -5
I expect an outbreak of oblique and hammy issues into June.
Between the injury taxi squad which very well could include Sizemore, the starter depth in the bucket, and the distinct possibility of one or more of Cecchini, Betts, Vasquez, Hassan or a darker horse emerging, I wouldn't be surprised if the mid season/all star break infusion comes from within.
These are truly glory days.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 31, 2014 22:06:51 GMT -5
Did you just name betts as a dark horse to make the majors this year?
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jan 31, 2014 23:10:50 GMT -5
No someone other than those mentioned....
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Post by jimoh on Feb 1, 2014 6:59:52 GMT -5
?@nickcafardo The Red Sox will work Ryan Lavarnway at first base as well as catcher in spring training
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 1, 2014 8:30:13 GMT -5
?@nickcafardo The Red Sox will work Ryan Lavarnway at first base as well as catcher in spring training Good move, I've been a proponent of that since about August. No sense in keeping him at catcher since there's a busload of catchers passing his bandwagon.
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Post by amfox1 on Feb 1, 2014 10:53:42 GMT -5
Cody Koback released, per BA.
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Post by godot on Feb 1, 2014 10:56:24 GMT -5
Correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe the Sox either considered or tried him at first some time ago but concluded he was a stiff. I do not know if they had him try it or came to that conclusion based on what they saw him do as a catcher. Regardless, a good move as he no longer has much of a future with the Sox as a catcher ( no kidding), and maybe they feel he has become more flexible due to better conditioning and training.
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Post by Matt Huegel on Feb 1, 2014 11:14:43 GMT -5
No, I don't believe they ever tried Lavarnway at first before. I do remember, when he was coming up and many were pointing to that as an option when/if he moved off catcher, Chris Mellen saying a couple times that he didn't think the skill set would transfer very well to first.
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 1, 2014 11:45:00 GMT -5
@gordonedes: Sox sign former Oakland first-rounder Corey Brown for CF-RF depth. Brown, who was in Nats system, gets big-league invite. He's 28
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Feb 1, 2014 12:14:27 GMT -5
Lavarnway is potentially more valuable as a catcher / 1st baseman / DH than he is as a backup catcher only. No matter what team he plays with. I don't think he will be a very good defender at 1st but depth is extremely important for this team or other teams. At some point someone is going to go. Be it Carp or Lavarnway, or Nava...etc. At some point these types of players start making more money via arb and they either are a starting level player or a key sub or they are gone. Lavarnway is on the bubble. but perhaps Carp and Nava are even more as they start earning more money and lose their options. Ideally all these guys need to prove they can be a key sub or starting level player or teams are just not going to want to pay them what they will earn in arbitration.
I hope he gets enough PT to prove he can hit mlb pitching better than most catchers. If he adds the ability to provide some depth at other positions, like Victor Martinez did, he adds to his value.
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Post by soxcentral on Feb 1, 2014 12:25:53 GMT -5
@gordonedes: Sox sign former Oakland first-rounder Corey Brown for CF-RF depth. Brown, who was in Nats system, gets big-league invite. He's 28 That's a bit misleading since he was the 59th pick, but either way he has a good AAA power history and plays 2 positions we needed depth for. It'd be nice to see a similar depth signing at SS/3B before P & C report.
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Post by TheCerebral1 on Feb 1, 2014 12:50:49 GMT -5
Love the Bullpen depth, You have so many options even after phasing out Franklin Morales. I loved Rich Hill from his former time. Jose Mijares also has an interesting profile. Depth is definitely not a problem.
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Post by michaelgelbwasser on Feb 1, 2014 14:28:47 GMT -5
@gordonedes: Sox sign former Oakland first-rounder Corey Brown for CF-RF depth. Brown, who was in Nats system, gets big-league invite. He's 28 That's a bit misleading since he was the 59th pick, but either way he has a good AAA power history and plays 2 positions we needed depth for. It'd be nice to see a similar depth signing at SS/3B before P & C report. And I think the SS/3B depth is more "nice" than "must have" on Feb. 1. Herrera and Holt certainly can hold down the fort for now. And I imagine Ben will add someone during spring training, if only for Pawtucket.
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Post by highcheeseandtaters on Feb 2, 2014 9:36:52 GMT -5
Lavarnway is potentially more valuable as a catcher / 1st baseman / DH than he is as a backup catcher only. No matter what team he plays with. I don't think he will be a very good defender at 1st but depth is extremely important for this team or other teams. At some point someone is going to go. Be it Carp or Lavarnway, or Nava...etc. At some point these types of players start making more money via arb and they either are a starting level player or a key sub or they are gone. Lavarnway is on the bubble. but perhaps Carp and Nava are even more as they start earning more money and lose their options. Ideally all these guys need to prove they can be a key sub or starting level player or teams are just not going to want to pay them what they will earn in arbitration. I hope he gets enough PT to prove he can hit mlb pitching better than most catchers. If he adds the ability to provide some depth at other positions, like Victor Martinez did, he adds to his value. Off topic... but will "thelavarnwayguy" remain "thelavarnwayguy" even if Lavarnway gets released?
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 2, 2014 15:21:10 GMT -5
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Feb 2, 2014 16:27:20 GMT -5
Lavarnway is potentially more valuable as a catcher / 1st baseman / DH than he is as a backup catcher only. No matter what team he plays with. I don't think he will be a very good defender at 1st but depth is extremely important for this team or other teams. At some point someone is going to go. Be it Carp or Lavarnway, or Nava...etc. At some point these types of players start making more money via arb and they either are a starting level player or a key sub or they are gone. Lavarnway is on the bubble. but perhaps Carp and Nava are even more as they start earning more money and lose their options. Ideally all these guys need to prove they can be a key sub or starting level player or teams are just not going to want to pay them what they will earn in arbitration. I hope he gets enough PT to prove he can hit mlb pitching better than most catchers. If he adds the ability to provide some depth at other positions, like Victor Martinez did, he adds to his value. Off topic... but will "thelavarnwayguy" remain "thelavarnwayguy" even if Lavarnway gets released? No one wants to put into a box or generically categorized but so far I think I've been right about Lavarnway. I never said he'd be an all star. He's still a mlb catcher when most here thought he would never stick at catcher. I'm not going to revisit it again but I see no reason to change. By the way, I was a different name but the board wanted me to change it and Chris said most here know me as "the lavarnway guy" so I just went with it. That's how it came up. Not that it was some kind of personal statement. I don't care about Lavarnway more than any other player. It's not a fan thing.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 3, 2014 10:30:10 GMT -5
Off topic... but will "thelavarnwayguy" remain "thelavarnwayguy" even if Lavarnway gets released? No one wants to put into a box or generically categorized but so far I think I've been right about Lavarnway. I never said he'd be an all star. He's still a mlb catcher when most here thought he would never stick at catcher. I'm not going to revisit it again but I see no reason to change. By the way, I was a different name but the board wanted me to change it and Chris said most here know me as "the lavarnway guy" so I just went with it. That's how it came up. Not that it was some kind of personal statement. I don't care about Lavarnway more than any other player. It's not a fan thing. Lavarnway is a MLB catcher?
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Post by buffs4444 on Feb 3, 2014 10:52:16 GMT -5
not for this team
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 3, 2014 11:15:39 GMT -5
or any other, most likely. I'm sure he would have been traded by now if anyone wanted a cheap backup and thought he was worthy.
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Post by semperfisox on Feb 3, 2014 12:29:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade WMB for their group of prospects.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 3, 2014 12:36:19 GMT -5
I really like the Brown signing, as long as they get to keep him ... solid offensive numbers, still relatively young, can play CF/RF. One more signing for SS depth, and this team's pretty much complete and looking really solidly constructed.
Now, let's just start spring training already! I'm tired of waiting.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Feb 3, 2014 13:22:31 GMT -5
Most people here still think Lavarnway will be released. I think he served a useful function last year as injury depth. He had 77 AB in mlb last year and he's still only 26. I see no reason why they wouldn't hold onto him in AAA to serve the same function this year.
Edit: Do you think it's just possible that the Redsox don't want to trade him unless they get the value they are looking for in return? With the logjam at catcher they may have going forward someone probably has to go but it could well be Butler rather than Lavarnway.
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 3, 2014 14:12:10 GMT -5
Rob Bradford ?@bradfo 2 min. Villarreal has cleared waivers, been assigned to Pawtucket and invited to big league camp Good
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