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Post by semperfisox on Nov 11, 2013 12:07:51 GMT -5
Today through the 13th in Orlando Florida. Figured the latest rumors and buzz could go in here.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 11, 2013 12:57:26 GMT -5
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 11, 2013 13:07:28 GMT -5
Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 8s
Phillies have not closed door on re-signing Carlos Ruiz but would like to hear his decision soon. And it appears that could happen.
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Post by mainesox on Nov 11, 2013 13:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by bjb406 on Nov 11, 2013 13:35:33 GMT -5
ya, i think the biggest reason to want to move on from Napoli is the strikeouts, and Trumbo doesn't exactly fix that problem.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Nov 11, 2013 13:35:38 GMT -5
Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 8s Phillies have not closed door on re-signing Carlos Ruiz but would like to hear his decision soon. And it appears that could happen. For me, signing Ruiz is THE top priority. Just like last off season (Ross), we should sign a catcher FIRST. I'm not crazy about giving McCann the kind of money and years he is looking for. Ruiz is perfect for us for the next TWO years. This should be Ben's first line of business. |
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Post by sammo420 on Nov 11, 2013 13:38:22 GMT -5
Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 8s Phillies have not closed door on re-signing Carlos Ruiz but would like to hear his decision soon. And it appears that could happen. For me, signing Ruiz is THE top priority. Just like last off season (Ross), we should sign a catcher FIRST. I'm not crazy about giving McCann the kind of money and years he is looking for. Ruiz is perfect for us for the next TWO years. This should be Ben's first line of business. I agree, this is the catcher option I want this off season. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 11, 2013 13:43:05 GMT -5
The Troy Tulowitzki/Cardinals story at least is creating some buzz. It seems like at the very least is gonna be discussed.
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Post by hammerhead on Nov 11, 2013 13:50:09 GMT -5
If I'm the Rox , I'd do Tulo for Matt Adams and Shelby Miller. You have to figure Adams would hit a bunch in Coors, Miller's got the stuff and Tulo seems like he's gonna break for a month every season.
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Post by jmei on Nov 11, 2013 13:58:33 GMT -5
If I'm the Rox , I'd do Tulo for Matt Adams and Shelby Miller. You have to figure Adams would hit a bunch in Coors, Miller's got the stuff and Tulo seems like he's gonna break for a month every season. Tulowitzki's been so good when healthy-- he's been worth at least five and a half wins in four of the last five seasons-- that I'd be inclined to keep and build around him. Miller and Adams is like a very good package, but I'd at least try to squeeze another prospect or two out of the Cardinals if I were the Rockies. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 11, 2013 14:02:50 GMT -5
If I'm the Rox , I'd do Tulo for Matt Adams and Shelby Miller. You have to figure Adams would hit a bunch in Coors, Miller's got the stuff and Tulo seems like he's gonna break for a month every season. Tulowitzki's been so good when healthy-- he's been worth at least five and a half wins in four of the last five seasons-- that I'd be inclined to keep and build around him. Miller and Adams is like a very good package, but I'd at least try to squeeze another prospect or two out of the Cardinals if I were the Rockies. That would be a good conversation starter. The Cardinals have more they could offer, Rosentha/Martinez etc. its just whether they'd be comfortable giving so much talent for one player, he is great but man I think as a fan I wouldn't feel comfortable. |
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Post by godot on Nov 11, 2013 14:41:30 GMT -5
If the Cards are hot to trot for a shortstop, Drew would be ideal as they would not have to trade valuable assets.
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Post by honkbal on Nov 11, 2013 14:48:37 GMT -5
The Trumbo talk never made any sense to me. I think it was Cafardo the other day who proposed Middlebrooks and Doubront for Trumbo. Don't Trumbo and Middlebrooks seem like essentially the same player at the plate anyway? Wouldn't you rather have the guy who can play 3B? |
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 11, 2013 14:51:23 GMT -5
Hypothetical that won't happen. If you ran the Cardinals would you do Taveras for Tulowitzki straight up? I'd say probably not, but it's at least intriguing, right? Tulowitzki is the best shortstop in baseball, and that's the position that's the weakest on the Cardinals by far.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 11, 2013 14:55:15 GMT -5
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 11, 2013 14:55:34 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 45s
As expected, Ellsbury and Drew will allow 5 pm deadline pass without accepting qualifying offers, baseball source says
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Post by anthonyws2013 on Nov 11, 2013 15:41:00 GMT -5
Not liking the AJ Pierzynski rumors flying around... doesn't get on base and gotten worse defensively each of the past 5 seasons. I would rather have Ruiz as a 2 year stop gate at 7-9 million as well as Salty even if last year was an offensive outlier.
I also am not understanding the Tim Hudson and Carlos Beltran rumors as they don't fit into the 2014 Red Sox team without changes that in my opinion don't make the team better then last year. Moving Victorino into center after having a gold glove year in right doesnt make sense. Also Beltran is asking for 3-4 years is way to long and the Red Sox shouldn't want or offer him more then 1 with an option. I do like Tim Hudson but with 6 arms slotted for a rotation spot... and Jake Peavy and Ryan Dempster are very similar to Tim.
It has been a strange start to the hot stove season as there are needs that the 2014 will need to fill but have internal options that could fill in, rumors about grizziled veterans that fit the Red Sox style but not in a definite postion. It'll be an interesting few months as this roster takes shape
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Post by sammo420 on Nov 11, 2013 15:47:34 GMT -5
The Trumbo talk never made any sense to me. I think it was Cafardo the other day who proposed Middlebrooks and Doubront for Trumbo. Don't Trumbo and Middlebrooks seem like essentially the same player at the plate anyway? Wouldn't you rather have the guy who can play 3B? Those rumors never existed, it wasn't the sox and angels talking to each other, it was the Marlins that were interested in these players. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 11, 2013 15:53:31 GMT -5
Jon Heyman ?@jonheymancbs 12m
#tigers have told teams they're open to trading either scherzer or porcello
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Nov 11, 2013 17:10:05 GMT -5
The Rockies would have to be significantly over-whelmed to trade Tulo. IMHO, the Cards would have to include Taveras, Miller and either Wong or another arm like Martinez in such a deal.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Nov 11, 2013 17:10:47 GMT -5
Hypothetical that won't happen. If you ran the Cardinals would you do Taveras for Tulowitzki straight up? I'd say probably not, but it's at least intriguing, right? Tulowitzki is the best shortstop in baseball, and that's the position that's the weakest on the Cardinals by far. Depends on the payroll - but likely yes. What is the chance that Taveras becomes as good, or better than, Tulo? 5%? 10%? The money hurts - but a shortstop of that caliber is rare and you can always find another OF or a couple that you can platoon. I was a bit disappointed in Taveras this year and wonder if he will live up to the hype - so for someone more bullish on Taveras I can see why you would go the other way. |
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Post by Guidas on Nov 11, 2013 17:21:16 GMT -5
@bradfo Grady Sizemore healthy, working out in AZ and listening to offers. Red Sox had some interest last offseason
Now THAT'S a guy I would offer a low floor, high ceiling (through incentives) 1-year deal with an option contract. Low floor being $1M with incentives based on PA that can take him to $8M-10M, and a $10M team option.
Esp if he passes a preliminary physical and you think Napoli is going and Nava will be spending significant time at 1st.
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Post by curiousle on Nov 11, 2013 17:34:27 GMT -5
GUIDAS-ABSOLUTELY....not much discusion on this point, and no question he's missed two years-but that would be a good fit with the right contract......sign him up.
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Post by elguapo on Nov 11, 2013 17:37:24 GMT -5
@bradfo Grady Sizemore healthy. I want to believe. |
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Post by nexus on Nov 11, 2013 17:41:22 GMT -5
Hypothetical that won't happen. If you ran the Cardinals would you do Taveras for Tulowitzki straight up? I'd say probably not, but it's at least intriguing, right? Tulowitzki is the best shortstop in baseball, and that's the position that's the weakest on the Cardinals by far. Depends on the payroll - but likely yes. What is the chance that Taveras becomes as good, or better than, Tulo? 5%? 10%? The money hurts - but a shortstop of that caliber is rare and you can always find another OF or a couple that you can platoon. I was a bit disappointed in Taveras this year and wonder if he will live up to the hype - so for someone more bullish on Taveras I can see why you would go the other way.I mean, the guy was slashing .306/.341/.462 as a 20 year old in AAA before his ankle had had enough and needed surgery. I am scared to think what sort of expectations you would set for your own children if you were disappointed in Taveras' 2013 season. |
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