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25 for 2014 Opening Day
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Post by Mike Andrews on Nov 27, 2013 14:02:44 GMT -5
A predictions game for those of you who are sitting around waiting for Turkey Day: Pick the 25 players who you think will be on the Red Sox 25-man active roster on Opening Day 2014. Get your guesses in by the end of the weekend. We'll come back in April and see how many you got.
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Post by izzy on Nov 27, 2013 16:09:55 GMT -5
Lineup 1 Nava LF
2 Victorino RF
3 Pedroia 2B
4 Ortiz DH
5 Carp 1B
6 Bogaerts SS
7 Ianetta C
8 Middlebrooks 3B
9 Bradley CF
Bench Eric Chavez (probably would see a lot of playing time if Middlebrooks continues to struggle)
David Ross
Franklin Gutierrez
Jonny Gomes
Pitching Lester SP
Buchholz SP
Lackey SP
Doubront SP
Peavy SP
RP Koji CL
Tazawa RP
Breslow RP
Miller RP
Badenhop RP
Crain RP
Workman (Spot Starter too)
Looking this over, this team seems to be short one really good bat. I highly doubt this is going to be the team we see in April but I took a shot. If I get 20 out of 25 right, I'll be very happy.
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Post by jbberlo22 on Nov 27, 2013 17:25:38 GMT -5
Ortiz
Lester
Pedroia
Bucholz
Doubront
Lackey
Tazawa
Miller
Middlebrooks
Nava
Breslow
Ross
Gomes
Victorino
Uehara
Dempster
Napoli
Carp
Bradley
Workman
Peavy
Bogaerts
Jamey Carroll
Britton
Morales
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 27, 2013 17:58:37 GMT -5
Crystal ball all polished and ready to go:
Pitchers:
Lester
Buchholz
Lackey
Doubront
Workman
Uehara
Hochevar
Breslow
Badenhop
Miller
Wright
Villarreal
Infield:
Carp
Butler
Pedroia
Bogaerts
Middlebrooks
Holt
Catcher
Lavarnway
Ross
Outfield:
Nava
Gomes
Bradley
Victorino
DH:
Who else?
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Post by klostrophobic on Nov 27, 2013 19:45:02 GMT -5
Lester
Buchholz
Lackey
Doubront
Dempster
Uehara
Tazawa
Workman
Miller
Badenhop
Breslow
De La Rosa
Carp
Pedroia
Bogaerts
Middlebrooks
Dioner Navarro
David Ross
Brock Holt
Nava
Gomes
Victorino
Ellsbury
Ortiz
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Post by GyIantosca on Nov 27, 2013 20:19:16 GMT -5
The starting 9, Catcher= Ross, 3b= WMB, ss= Xander, 2B = Petey, 1b= Carp, Lf= Gomes, Cf= Bradley jr, Rf = Victorino, DH= Ortiz,
Pitchers= Lester, Lackey,Buch, Felix, Peavy, Dempster. Rp= Koji, Taz, Breslow, Workman, Miller, Bandenhop
Bench, Nava, Brentz, Holt, Lavarnway.
Couple of notes, Nava will spend more time at 1b with Carp thats why Brentz is up here. Morales lost Farrell's trust so I see a trade. I rather Britton than Miller but I see Britton getting more seasoning at AAA. I think they start the year with the 6 starters and just have Dempster the long man. I think the spring training verison of Jackie JR is gonna be Betts but he has to get seasoning at a quick AA and right to AAA, He is going to be a major weapon for this team in time. It seems the team can not get enough of Mookie. Keep an eye on Shaw inally. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 27, 2013 21:58:23 GMT -5
I'm going to cheat and just name the roster I think they ought to have, and hope they're as smart as me!
SP: Lester, Buchholz, Lackey, Doubront, Peavy
Pen: Uehara, Tazawa, Miller, Workman, Breslow, Badenhop, Morales
The 9: Ryan Hanigan, Carp, Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Bogaerts, Nava, Ellsbury, Victorino, Ortiz
The bench: Ross, Gomes, Bradley, Cliff Pennington.
That's right, 22 returning players (although Napoli -> Bradley, Drew -> Bogaerts, and to a lesser extent Dempster -> Peavy, and Mortensen et al -> Morales are all really changes from last year as well).
A suggested alternate scoring system: each player on the actual roster is worth X points, where X is the number of posters who didn't name them. So Pedroia, etc., would be worth nothing, but being the only person to name the new catcher or Napoli replacement would be worth a ton.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 28, 2013 4:16:38 GMT -5
Lester
Buchholz
Lackey
Doubront
Peavy
Uehara
Tazawa
Workman
Breslow
Miller
Badenhop
Britton
Hanigan
Ross
Bogaerts
Napoli
Pedroia
Middlebrooks
Barmes
Gomes
Nava
Gutierrez
Victorino
Bradley
Ortiz
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Post by Mike Andrews on Nov 28, 2013 8:52:02 GMT -5
Might change this before the weekend is up
1. Jon Lester
2. John Lackey
3. Clay Buchholz
4. Jake Peavy
5. Felix Doubront
6. Koji Uehara
7. Brian Wilson
8. Junichi Tazawa
9. Brandon Workman
10. Burke Badenhop
11. Craig Breslow
12. Andrew Miller
13. David Ross
14. Mike Napoli
15. Dustin Pedroia
16. Will Middlebrooks
17. Xander Bogaerts
18. Daniel Nava
19. Jackie Bradley
20. Shane Victorino
21. David Ortiz
22. Ryan Hanigan
23. Mike Carp
24. Willie Bloomquist
25. Jonny Gomes
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Post by raftsox on Nov 28, 2013 9:14:35 GMT -5
SPs:
Lester
Buchholz
Doubront
Lackey
Peavey
RPs:
Uehara
Breslow
Tazawa
Wilson
Dempster
Miller *rehab assignment?
Whatshisfacewejusttradedfor (Badenhop)
Victorino
Pedroia
Ortiz
Napoli
Nava
Bradley jr.
Middlebrooks
Bogaerts
Saltalamacchia
Bench:
Gomes
Ross
Hassan
Carp
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Post by semperfisox on Nov 28, 2013 9:58:56 GMT -5
I think people are forgetting Farrell's comment about needing power on the corner if JBJ is the starting CF. We need to replace Ellsbury's bat.
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Post by bjb406 on Nov 28, 2013 10:34:11 GMT -5
i think someone is forgetting that Farrell is not the GM
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 28, 2013 10:57:51 GMT -5
i think someone is forgetting that Farrell is not the GM Are you implying that he's out of the loop? |
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Post by redsoxmarc on Nov 28, 2013 11:19:03 GMT -5
C: Ryan Hanigan, David Ross
1B: Mike Napoli
2B: Dustin Pedroia
SS: Xander Bogaerts, Brian Dozier
3B: Will Middlebrooks
LF: Daniel Nava, Jonny Gomes
CF: Dexter Fowler, Jackie Bradley Jr
RF: Shane Victorino
DH: David Ortiz
SP: Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey, Jake Peavy, Felix Doubront
Bullpen: Badenhop, Breslow, Tazawa, Miller, Workman, Hochevar, Uehara
Trades: Lavarnway, Morales - Dozier // Carp, Webster - Fowler // Dempster - Hochevar // Brentz - Hanigan
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Post by boomer on Nov 28, 2013 13:32:44 GMT -5
SP: Lester, Buchholz, Lackey, Doubront, Peavy Pen: Uehara, Tazawa, Miller, Workman, Breslow, Badenhop, Morales The 9: Lavarnway, [Napoli/Hart/Loney/Morse/Morneau for not more than 2 years or Hassan in a platoon with Carp (depending on how the market for available 1B free agents develops)], Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Bogaerts, Nava, Bradley, Victorino, Ortiz The bench: Ross, Gomes, Carp, [UIF TBNL as fungible 25th man]. Here is a list of available free agents: hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/23/2014-free-agent-tracker/It is understandable why Cherington will wait for relative bargains among the free agents or will make logical trades to fill needs from areas of organizational depth as occurred in the Badenhop trade on a small scale basis. Lavarnway, JBJ, Middlebrooks and Bogaerts have little or nothing left to prove outside the majors. The organization will display more patience giving them chances to prove if any or all belong. If Cherington pursues another catcher like Hannigan, I could see Lavarnway as the third option at catcher and platoon 1B with Carp. I don't see Ellsbury, Napoli, Drew or Salty returning except on team friendly contracts that don't impede the emergence of any top prospects. If they can get a Dexter Fowler quality player in a trade of some of their upper level RHP prospects, this could change the mix of the roster. However, it seems more likely that they will only try to resolve who will be their 1B regular and flexible UIF to start next season. My roster has them working out a "Dumpster" trade. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 28, 2013 16:50:49 GMT -5
Might change this before the weekend is up
1. Jon Lester
2. John Lackey
3. Clay Buchholz
4. Felix Doubront
5. Jake Peavy
6. Koji Uehara
7. Brandon Workman
8. Junichi Tazawa
9. Andrew Miller
10. Burke Badenhop
11. Craig Breslow
12. Franklin Morales
13. David Ross (Lavarnway reg starter but opening day Ross will start)
14. Mike Napoli
15. Dustin Pedroia
16. Will Middlebrooks
17. Xander Bogaerts
18. Daniel Nava
19. Jacoby Elsbury
20. Shane Victorino
21. David Ortiz
22. Ryan Lavarnway
23. Mike Carp
24. Michael Young
25. Jonny Gomes
Move Dempster (save 8m)
Resign Elsbury and Napoli. Els market won't develop outside the 5/110 range which keeps Sox in it. Nap is back with a 2/28 deal.
Sign Young to play utility role - gives good WMB insurance and can play enough short to spell Bogey when necessary and Holt in AAA gives backup short option should Bogey miss actual time.
Lavarnway catches
Bradley is in AAA another year filling in full time if a starter goes down. No true backup cf but don't need one with JBjr in AAA and Vic in right. Just like last year.
Workman in the pen as a setup guy means they don't need to overpay a guy like Wilson or Crain.
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Post by danr on Nov 29, 2013 13:19:00 GMT -5
Lineup:
Ellsbury CF
Victorino RF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Bogaerts 3B
Carp 1B
Salty C
Drew SS
Bradley LF
Bench
Gomes
Nava
Middlebrooks
Ross
SP
Lester
Buchholz
Peavy
Doubront
Lackey
RP
Koji
Tazawa
Breslow
Miller
Badenhop
Workman
Britton
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 30, 2013 1:11:49 GMT -5
Lineup: Ellsbury CF Salty C Drew SS Peavy Dempster You are insanely over the payroll tax limit. |
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 30, 2013 11:06:55 GMT -5
C Hannigan
1B Hart
2B Pedroia
3B Middlebrooks
SS Bogarts
LF Nava
CF Bradley
RF Victorino
Bench: Ross, McDonald, Carp, Gomes.
Rotation:
Lester
Buccholz
Lackey
Doubront
Peavy
Pen:
Uehara
Tazawa
Breslow
Miller
Badenhop
Workman
Dempster
Notes:
Morales in trade for Hannigan.
Napoli ends up signing a three or four year deal forcing the Red Sox to settle for Hart.
Saltalamachia ends up getting a three year deal.
Ellsbury gets six year deal.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Nov 30, 2013 13:24:45 GMT -5
Lineup:
RF Victorino (R)
LF Choo (L)
2B Pedroia (R)
DH Ortiz (L)
1B Hart (R)
C Saltalamacchia (L)
SS Bogaerts (R)
3B Middlebrooks (R)
CF Bradley (L)
Bench:
OF/1B Nava (S)
LF Gomes (R)
C Ross (R)
IF/OF Aviles (R)
Starting Pitchers:
Lester (L)
Lackey (R)
Buccholtz (R)
Doubront (L)
Peavy (R)
Bullpen:
Uehara (R)
Tazawa (R)
Miller (L)
De la Rosa (R)
Breslow (L)
Badenhop (R)
Villareal (R)
Don't think I'm gonna win this one as I was a bit less conservative than most.
- Nava would be the supersub in case things don't work out with Hart or Bradley - will likely get 500+ ABs (can insert Carp here if preferred)
- Trade Morales+ prospects Aviles and Dempster (+$4mil) with Carp for prospects to free up cap space. Chipping in $4 mil for Dempster - this should still free up about $11 mil.
- Workman will be stretched out in AAA and he and Britton will be the 13th and 14th men to fill-in for injuries.
- Signings: Choo 5/$85; Hart 1/$8.5 (with Beltre-esque option to lower cap charge); Salty 2/$24 (think he wants to come back and his market won't be as strong as predicted)
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Post by danr on Nov 30, 2013 16:26:21 GMT -5
Lineup: Ellsbury CF Salty C Drew SS Peavy Dempster You are insanely over the payroll tax limit. A fair comment. I made some assumptions about escalators in the new contracts and I came up with a payroll of $190M, with the limit for next year at $189M. However, I think one or either Peavy or Dempster probably has to go. So I am revising my list, cutting Dempster and replacing him with Badenhop. In reality, if one of the AAA pitchers shows a lot in ST, it wouldn't surprise if the Sox traded either Lackey or Peavy, or both. |
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 1, 2013 13:49:38 GMT -5
Joel Sherman ?@joelsherman110s A person I trust said #Redsox will tender contract to Andrew Bailey: Uehara insurance/trade chip/just 1-yr commitment at $4M range twitter.com/Joelsherman1 |
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 1, 2013 14:19:08 GMT -5
Joel Sherman ?@joelsherman110s A person I trust said #Redsox will tender contract to Andrew Bailey: Uehara insurance/trade chip/just 1-yr commitment at $4M range twitter.com/Joelsherman1Doubt he's ready to start the season. More like May/June. |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Dec 1, 2013 16:20:51 GMT -5
Giving this project 10 minutes. Busy.
1. Jon Lester
2. John Lackey
3. Clay Buchholz
4. Dempster
5. Felix Doubront
6. Koji Uehara
7. Britton
8. Junichi Tazawa
9. Brandon Workman
10. Burke Badenhop
11. Craig Breslow
12. Andrew Miller
13. David Ross
14. Billy Butler
15. Dustin Pedroia
16. Will Middlebrooks
17. Xander Bogaerts
18. Choo
19. Jackie Bradley
20. Shane Victorino
21. David Ortiz
22. Lavarnway
23. Mike Carp
24. Furcal
25. Jonny Gomes
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Post by mainesox on Dec 1, 2013 17:18:21 GMT -5
That $4M figure is an estimation of what he'd get in arbitration, but there's nothing stopping him and the Sox from coming to an agreement on a contract for less than that (which I think is more likely than the Sox paying $4M for half a season, or less, of a relief pitcher).
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