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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 13, 2015 8:52:39 GMT -5
Glenn Ordway thinks that the Red Sox shouldn't hesitate to trade any of their prospects since they are all overated and probably won't pan out. Pointing to Middlebrooks and Bradley as guys that they thought were the next big thing and lost all trade value. He doesn't seem to think Baseball America is reliable. If anybody is unreliable it's Glen Ordway. He got booted off WEEI. Is he back? Let me know so I can put the station on my "do not listen to" list.
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 13, 2015 9:05:53 GMT -5
Glenn Ordway thinks that the Red Sox shouldn't hesitate to trade any of their prospects since they are all overated and probably won't pan out. Pointing to Middlebrooks and Bradley as guys that they thought were the next big thing and lost all trade value. He doesn't seem to think Baseball America is reliable. I think the bolded and underlined part of your quote about Ordway is accurate about his ability to consider the possibility that not all prospects are created equal. First off, everybody here could see that WMB's ceiling appeared to be Butch Hobson back in the late 70s. His glaring lack of plate discipline was obvious. I guess we'll give up on Bogaerts, because at age 22 there's no chance he'll develop, right? And there's no chance that Bradley won't hit a little better and play otherwordly defense? But hey, if Bradley fails that means Betts will fail to. Let's trade him. I love the Boston media. Most of them absolutely clueless. I can't imagine how they can make so much money knowing so little. Since I got XM-Sirius on my car radio I never listen to the dolts on the FM dial. It's obvious that they're trying to drum up interest by taking opposite views of each other. Even Tony Mazzarotti, who I thought was a decent writer, now resorts to "the sky is falling" rants on topics. MLB radio does an excellent job of screening callers to mostly guarantee an intelligent dialogue. Plus, its studio people are either former players, executives or very knowledgeable baseball announcers or commentators.
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Post by jamesmcgillstatue on Feb 13, 2015 9:49:36 GMT -5
Random question but does anyone know when number changes are finalized? Gotta change my softball number from JBJ to 50 for Mookie if he's keeping it. Uniwatch post from 2011 indicates that, because of merchandising, changing numbers of players has become more difficult -- or costly. The Red Sox' website has not updated the 40-man and STI roster as of this morning. I'd expect the Globe to publish an official roster this weekend or next. (JWH has inside info! ) But for now it looks like Betts is keeping #50, with lower numbers like 3 and 16 unassigned for the moment. Tellingly, the Red Sox' online store is not selling Betts authentic jerseys ... yet. So it's possible they could give him a new uni without their being a merchandising issue.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 13, 2015 13:24:31 GMT -5
The Red Sox switched Vazquez's jersey to #7. In fact, they've changed nearly every position player in their first full season.
Betts 50 is kinda cool though.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 13, 2015 14:54:21 GMT -5
Yeah, first year players are completely different ... I don't think the Sox were filling warehouses with Betts #50 jerseys last summer. Bogaerts switched to his current #2 after the previous year. Even though 50 is kinda cool, I assume there's a status attached to lower numbers, since it's always the call-ups that get the high numbers and the stars tend to have lower numbers.
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Post by nomar on Feb 13, 2015 16:55:15 GMT -5
Mookie was 7 in the minors so that's interesting we'll see.
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 13, 2015 17:56:22 GMT -5
@matteddyba: #RedSox sign RHP Jess Todd, durable reliever who has spent last six years at Triple-A with 9.2 SO/9, 3.3 BB/9 and 1.30 WHIP #TransactionsBA
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 13, 2015 18:36:43 GMT -5
Fascinating career. Monster stuff, if the K/9 is any indication, but that monster comes with a few demons. Eye-popping numbers from his short stint with Cleveland as a 24-year old in 2010: 13.5 K/9; 4.5 BB/9; 9 hits in 6 innings; an ERA of 7.5; a FIP of 1.58!
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Post by mgoetze on Feb 13, 2015 19:52:19 GMT -5
Fascinating career. Monster stuff, if the K/9 is any indication, but that monster comes with a few demons. Eye-popping numbers from his short stint with Cleveland as a 24-year old in 2010: 13.5 K/9; 4.5 BB/9; 9 hits in 6 innings; an ERA of 7.5; a FIP of 1.58! Allow me to point out for the umpteenth time that per-inning stats such as FIP are stupid.
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Post by moonstone2 on Feb 13, 2015 20:05:56 GMT -5
Fascinating career. Monster stuff, if the K/9 is any indication, but that monster comes with a few demons. Eye-popping numbers from his short stint with Cleveland as a 24-year old in 2010: 13.5 K/9; 4.5 BB/9; 9 hits in 6 innings; an ERA of 7.5; a FIP of 1.58! Well that's part of the problem. He doesn't have that eye popping pitch. He's a right handed sinker/slider/cutter guy who throws mostly in the high 80s. When you don't have eye popping stuff, you don't get a ton of chances and Todd didn't make the most of his. Then suddenly you are old and not considered a prospect anymore. If given a chance he could probably get guys out, but without an eye popping pitch, or a major league track record he's never going to get one. Unless he gets very lucky.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 13, 2015 20:17:39 GMT -5
Fascinating career. Monster stuff, if the K/9 is any indication, but that monster comes with a few demons. Eye-popping numbers from his short stint with Cleveland as a 24-year old in 2010: 13.5 K/9; 4.5 BB/9; 9 hits in 6 innings; an ERA of 7.5; a FIP of 1.58! Allow me to point out for the umpteenth time that per-inning stats such as FIP are stupid. The differential between the ERA (and RA) and FIP is so great in this case, as to make it a really questionable stat for that small sample, no doubt about it. Interesting contrast.
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Post by prangerx on Feb 14, 2015 17:47:00 GMT -5
Glenn Ordway thinks that the Red Sox shouldn't hesitate to trade any of their prospects since they are all overated and probably won't pan out. Pointing to Middlebrooks and Bradley as guys that they thought were the next big thing and lost all trade value. He doesn't seem to think Baseball America is reliable. If anybody is unreliable it's Glen Ordway. He got booted off WEEI. Is he back? Let me know so I can put the station on my "do not listen to" list. He started his own live show called The Big Show Unfilitered. The show is online , on Tune In Radio, and on Serius Radio. It's also syndicated on a new Hampshire station.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 15, 2015 11:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 15, 2015 13:15:00 GMT -5
If anybody is unreliable it's Glen Ordway. He got booted off WEEI. Is he back? Let me know so I can put the station on my "do not listen to" list. He started his own live show called The Big Show Unfilitered. The show is online , on Tune In Radio, and on Serius Radio. It's also syndicated on a new Hampshire station. Thanks. I'll put them all on my list.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 16, 2015 9:41:01 GMT -5
Rob Bradford ?@bradfo 13m13 minutes ago Mookie Betts enters camp at 181 pounds. A long way from his Baseball Reference page listing of 155
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Post by youngbillrussell on Feb 16, 2015 10:09:59 GMT -5
He looks great. Awesome to see him and Xander already in spring training when pitchers and catchers aren't required to report yet.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 16, 2015 10:59:29 GMT -5
He looks great. Awesome to see him and Xander already in spring training when pitchers and catchers aren't required to report yet. According to Pete Abe 36 of the 57 invited players are already there including almost the entire pitching staff.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 16, 2015 11:14:45 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 16, 2015 11:18:17 GMT -5
Z SOURCE: NOTHING CLOSE WITH RED SOX, COLE HAMELS; PHILLIES KNOW WHERE SOX STAND 02.16.15 at 11:13 am ET By Rob Bradford FORT MYERS, Fla. — According to a major league source, the Red Sox aren’t remotely close on any sort of trade for Phillies pitcher Cole Hamels. The source says that the Sox have made Philadelphia aware of the parameters of what the Sox are willing to give up for the starter. The Boston Globe reported Sunday that the Red Sox were one of four teams to have made offers for Hamels. The Red Sox are wary of the cost it would take to get Hamels, with three factors weighing into the equation (money, talent, right for the pitcher to refuse a deal) instead of the two some suitors are dealing with. Hamels is owed four years, $90 million, with a club option for a fifth year that would boost the price to $110 million. While it is assumed Hamels would leverage his no-trade with the Sox to have them pick up his option, the fact that there are other big market clubs in the mix not on the no-trade list could raise a red flag. fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2015/02/16/source-nothing-close-with-red-sox-cole-hamels-phillies-know-where-sox-stand/
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 16, 2015 16:40:19 GMT -5
Sox announce multiple Minor League signings, most of which have been reported at various stages. Yet some unreported ones:
RHP Deryk Hooker (great name) INF Oscar Tejeda (old friend)
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 16, 2015 17:08:11 GMT -5
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Post by michael on Feb 16, 2015 19:14:34 GMT -5
Deryk Hooker? He best have a hellacious curveball.
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 16, 2015 23:22:59 GMT -5
Deryk Hooker? He best have a hellacious curveball. ...and, a pretty good slider too.
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Post by michael on Feb 17, 2015 11:02:33 GMT -5
Deryk Hooker? He best have a hellacious curveball. ...and, a pretty good slider too. Is it too easy to ask if he gets paid after relief sessions?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 17, 2015 11:23:15 GMT -5
Yikes, Henry !!!
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