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7/14 ML Gameday Thread: Buttrey rehabs in Lowell
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jul 14, 2014 8:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2014 9:00:52 GMT -5
With Portland's all-star break looming, it shouldn't go unnoticed that baring the unthinkable today, Blake Swihart will have played a half season without a single passed ball.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 14, 2014 9:06:17 GMT -5
With Portland's all-star break looming, it shouldn't go unnoticed that baring the unthinkable today, Blake Swihart will have played a half season without a single passed ball. Keep him away from Stephen Wright when he gets promoted. Might goof up his Mojo. Also, has 10 bombs now. Slugging .481, that's a pretty good number. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2014 9:19:45 GMT -5
With Portland's all-star break looming, it shouldn't go unnoticed that baring the unthinkable today, Blake Swihart will have played a half season without a single passed ball. Keep him away from Stephen Wright when he gets promoted. Might goof up his Mojo. Also, has 10 bombs now. Slugging .481, that's a pretty good number. I think he caught Steven Wright's first rehab game which was at Portland.Just checked, Spring caught that game. Wise decision ? LOL |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 14, 2014 10:59:27 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Jon Denney is in the lineup for the GCL Red Sox. I didn't think he would play at all this year.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 14, 2014 11:16:58 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Jon Denney is in the lineup for the GCL Red Sox. I didn't think he would play at all this year. Oh great, can't wait to continue that discussion. |
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 14, 2014 11:18:19 GMT -5
More rain in Fort Myers. God continues to do his best to delay the inevitable of Devers taking His throne.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 14, 2014 11:27:10 GMT -5
With Portland's all-star break looming, it shouldn't go unnoticed that baring the unthinkable today, Blake Swihart will have played a half season without a single passed ball. Keep him away from Stephen Wright when he gets promoted. Might goof up his Mojo. Also, has 10 bombs now. Slugging .481, that's a pretty good number. His triple slash line is a very solid 293/349/481 ... and add in what certainly looks to be plus defense, it's been a really, really good first half for him. |
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Post by okin15 on Jul 14, 2014 11:43:22 GMT -5
Surprisingly, Jon Denney is in the lineup for the GCL Red Sox. I didn't think he would play at all this year. Oh great, can't wait to continue that discussion. All we can hope for is that he's learned his lesson and will try to become a better person from it. Well, that and that he tears the cover off the ball. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 14, 2014 11:47:15 GMT -5
GCL postponed.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2014 11:50:26 GMT -5
Dogs up 2-1. Swihart threw out a runner just before Augliera gave up a HR. He's now 27/50 in CS.
3-1 after 3. Dogs doing a good job with small ball. Augliera stranding runners.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 14, 2014 11:57:52 GMT -5
Keep him away from Stephen Wright when he gets promoted. Might goof up his Mojo. Also, has 10 bombs now. Slugging .481, that's a pretty good number. His triple slash line is a very solid 293/349/481 ... and add in what certainly looks to be plus defense, it's been a really, really good first half for him. MLB had a panel discussion about declining runs in MLB. Took a little swipe at the Sox and our approach about waiting out counts. I think there is a little truth in that in some of the youngster's struggles. Drew too. Minor league pitchers have a hard time throwing strikes. Any hitter with a decent eye gets a lot of cheap walks. Boosts your OBP and we're giddy over their advanced approach. Then, we find out they're a slap-hitter with no power when they face a pitcher with control. Not an absolute. But, I'm paying more attention to their slugging pct. Making outs doesn't help it. And, neither do cheap walks. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 14, 2014 12:01:17 GMT -5
His triple slash line is a very solid 293/349/481 ... and add in what certainly looks to be plus defense, it's been a really, really good first half for him. MLB had a panel discussion about declining runs in MLB. Took a little swipe at the Sox and our approach about waiting out counts. I think there is a little truth in that in some of the youngster's struggles. Drew too. Minor league pitchers have a hard time throwing strikes. Any hitter with a decent eye gets a lot of cheap walks. Boosts your OBP and we're giddy over their advanced approach. Then, we find out they're a slap-hitter with no power when they face a pitcher with control. Not an absolute. But, I'm paying more attention to their slugging pct. Making outs doesn't help it. And, neither do cheap walks. What does that have to do with Swihart and his .481 SLG? |
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 14, 2014 12:03:10 GMT -5
MLB had a panel discussion about declining runs in MLB. Took a little swipe at the Sox and our approach about waiting out counts. I think there is a little truth in that in some of the youngster's struggles. Drew too. Minor league pitchers have a hard time throwing strikes. Any hitter with a decent eye gets a lot of cheap walks. Boosts your OBP and we're giddy over their advanced approach. Then, we find out they're a slap-hitter with no power when they face a pitcher with control. Not an absolute. But, I'm paying more attention to their slugging pct. Making outs doesn't help it. And, neither do cheap walks. What does that have to do with Swihart and his .481 SLG? If you read my earlier post in this tread before you started griping about something. You would know. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 14, 2014 12:04:33 GMT -5
Should have left Devers in the DSL.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2014 12:10:56 GMT -5
Apparently Danny Bethea is the replacement for Matt Spring. He's DH tonight. He's going to be a big boy.
LOL, He lost me with "MLB had a panel discussion".
Swihart also has excellent speed for a catcher. Just scored from first on a hard line drive double down the left field line. He was pretty much motoring. I think he's faster than Cecchini for reference.
Marketing tip. If you ever advertize with the Sea Dogs, try to get the spot where the HONEY ad is. It's constantly on the screen, way more noticeable than the WB Mason sign on the Maine Monster.
Seem like statement that may or may not be true. It seems like Augliera is throwing way more breaking pitches than he usually does including first pitches of ABs. Meneses with a HR but I didn't see it. ADD: Announcer just said over the Maine Monster. 5-2 after 6.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 14, 2014 12:48:58 GMT -5
Should have left Devers in the DSL. Sincerely, GCL pitching staffs. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2014 13:14:55 GMT -5
I don't think Chester has seen a fastball all day. Swihart's double was ripped, first pitch fastball.
Augliera had a nice game. Got into a few jams early but was pretty efficient after that.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 14, 2014 13:48:05 GMT -5
It's relevant, as to the fact they paid the kid 900k last year. if they had only given him 150-400k, like some others who were suspended? They might have missed the entire season. Same if they had just smoked a little dope, but nope.. Denny's offense was nothing.. DUI and an issue with Police, authoritative figures.. Nothing to be taken seriously.  |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 14, 2014 14:18:41 GMT -5
It's relevant, as to the fact they paid the kid 900k last year. if they had only given him 150-400k, like some others who were suspended? They might have missed the entire season. Same if they had just smoked a little dope, but nope.. Denny's offense was nothing.. DUI and an issue with Police, authoritative figures.. Nothing to be taken seriously. It's more along the lines of people who think they know him personally because they read a few articles and know what he's thinking that I'm not looking forward to. Yeah, borrowing trouble here. |
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Post by quintanariffic on Jul 14, 2014 14:22:52 GMT -5
His triple slash line is a very solid 293/349/481 ... and add in what certainly looks to be plus defense, it's been a really, really good first half for him. MLB had a panel discussion about declining runs in MLB. Took a little swipe at the Sox and our approach about waiting out counts. I think there is a little truth in that in some of the youngster's struggles. Drew too. Minor league pitchers have a hard time throwing strikes. Any hitter with a decent eye gets a lot of cheap walks. Boosts your OBP and we're giddy over their advanced approach. Then, we find out they're a slap-hitter with no power when they face a pitcher with control. Not an absolute. But, I'm paying more attention to their slugging pct. Making outs doesn't help it. And, neither do cheap walks. I guess I'm confused as to which youngsters this refers to? Bradley? Is the implication that Bradley will never be any better than he is now in his first half season in the bigs? Same for Bogaerts - I guess he's finished developing? Maybe they meant Betts, b/c his first 20-30 PAs are surely determinative re: the rest of his career. How about Anthony Rizzo? He seems to have done OK following the Red Sox ml hitting philosophy, or is he high OBP, low SLG sort of slap hitter? Maybe it's Will Middlebrooks, b/c when he's healthy he really looks like an all plate patience, no power sort of guy, right? Statements like this, let alone agreeing with them, are litmus tests for structured thinking. |
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 14, 2014 14:41:23 GMT -5
MLB had a panel discussion about declining runs in MLB. Took a little swipe at the Sox and our approach about waiting out counts. I think there is a little truth in that in some of the youngster's struggles. Drew too. Minor league pitchers have a hard time throwing strikes. Any hitter with a decent eye gets a lot of cheap walks. Boosts your OBP and we're giddy over their advanced approach. Then, we find out they're a slap-hitter with no power when they face a pitcher with control. Not an absolute. But, I'm paying more attention to their slugging pct. Making outs doesn't help it. And, neither do cheap walks. I guess I'm confused as to which youngsters this refers to? Bradley? Is the implication that Bradley will never be any better than he is now in his first half season in the bigs? Same for Bogaerts - I guess he's finished developing? Maybe they meant Betts, b/c his first 20-30 PAs are surely determinative re: the rest of his career. How about Anthony Rizzo? He seems to have done OK following the Red Sox ml hitting philosophy, or is he high OBP, low SLG sort of slap hitter? Maybe it's Will Middlebrooks, b/c when he's healthy he really looks like an all plate patience, no power sort of guy, right? Statements like this, let alone agreeing with them, are litmus tests for structured thinking. I think part of Bradley's struggles have been because he's too passive in his approach. I don't have the exact data. But, he took a heckuva lot of strike 3's looking. He seems to have become a bit more aggressive at the plate since he changed his stance. Not waiting to get 2 strikes and he's hitting better. Yeah, I think Bogaerts has done the same thing. Bigger problem is not hitting sliders. But, you don't have to wait until you have 2 strikes to be hunting fastball. As far as WMB, I don't think he has a good pitch recognition at all. Too agressive at times. Yet, he seems to take a lot of third strikes too. The slugging pct. comment is directed more at Cecchini. His OBP was 420 last year and his slugging was 404. No jokes. Ha. I think we should have looked at that 404 slugging as a concern more than think the 825 OBP was really good. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 14, 2014 14:50:24 GMT -5
I guess I'm confused as to which youngsters this refers to? I think part of Bradley's struggles have been because he's too passive in his approach. I don't have the exact data. But, he took a heckuva lot of strike 3's looking. He seems to have become a bit more aggressive at the plate since he changed his stance. Not waiting to get 2 strikes and he's hitting better. Yeah, I think Bogaerts has done the same thing. Bigger problem is not hitting sliders. But, you don't have to wait until you have 2 strikes to be hunting fastball. As far as WMB, I don't think he has a good pitch recognition at all. Too agressive at times. Yet, he seems to take a lot of third strikes too. The slugging pct. comment is directed more at Cecchini. His OBP was 404 last year and his slugging was 420. No jokes. Ha. I think we should have looked at that 420 slugging as a concern more than think the 825 OBP was really good. I think that you are spot on with all your observations. |
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Post by godot on Jul 14, 2014 14:52:07 GMT -5
His triple slash line is a very solid 293/349/481 ... and add in what certainly looks to be plus defense, it's been a really, really good first half for him. MLB had a panel discussion about declining runs in MLB. Took a little swipe at the Sox and our approach about waiting out counts. I think there is a little truth in that in some of the youngster's struggles. Drew too. Minor league pitchers have a hard time throwing strikes. Any hitter with a decent eye gets a lot of cheap walks. Boosts your OBP and we're giddy over their advanced approach. Then, we find out they're a slap-hitter with no power when they face a pitcher with control. Not an absolute. But, I'm paying more attention to their slugging pct. Making outs doesn't help it. And, neither do cheap walks. It is not just the MLB panel, but many coaches have raised the same issue. It goes something like this:It is called hitting, not walking. The idea is to swing at a pitch you can hit, not just take a lot of pitches to tired out the pitcher. Walks are a by product of this approach. The key, of course, is pitch recognition, not keeping the bat on your shoulder. The feeling is that preaching the walking and take pitch approach can screw up a hitter's natural skills and tendencies and make them defensive and think too much. Not every hitter is like Boggs and can hit with two strikes. Be prepared to hit but recognize what you can hit is the mantra. Moreover, the danger of letting a young hitter take two strikes is that it not only pits them in a hole, but usually they do not get borderline pitches and can end up swing a bad pitches. The MLB panel added that you usually get a fresh relief pitcher that can throw smoke anywhoo. Others note that pitchers feel confident throwing strikes on the first pitch to Sox hitters. |
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 14, 2014 14:55:35 GMT -5
This might not be a bad idea for it's own thread. The thing they mentioned is that it was fantastic to be patient and get a great starter out like Pedro. Get to the pen and pound em. Now, many of the bullpens are lights in the 7-8-9. It's hard to comeback. Even if you're only trailing 3-2 or 2-1.
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