steveofbradenton
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 24, 2015 15:34:41 GMT -5
I would be really disappointed if we took Cameron. Edit: I've actually come around a bit on Bregman - still not my first choice, but I'd be okay with it - but Cameron would be a serious disappointment. Granted I've never seen him live, but I would also be somewhat disappointed if Cameron was our pick at 7. Still wish we would consider Allard as our back-up to Fulmer and Bregman.
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Post by soxfan2015 on May 24, 2015 16:13:32 GMT -5
At this point with the draft coming up, who is everyone's pick with who they'd want in order? Curious to see the different opinions
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Post by soxfanatic on May 24, 2015 17:34:43 GMT -5
At this point with the draft coming up, who is everyone's pick with who they'd want in order? Curious to see the different opinions Bregman, Fulmer, Benintendi
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Post by prometheus on May 24, 2015 17:59:29 GMT -5
At this point with the draft coming up, who is everyone's pick with who they'd want in order? Curious to see the different opinions 1. Fulmer 2. Benintendi 3. Bregman This is assuming that Dansby, Tate, Rodgers, and Jay are off the board. I'm pretty interchangeable between Bregman and Benintendi
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Post by soxfan2015 on May 24, 2015 18:11:10 GMT -5
Do you guys think jay can be a starter? And a good one at that? Don't know much about jay would like to hear some more about him
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Post by bentossaurus on May 24, 2015 19:24:33 GMT -5
At this point with the draft coming up, who is everyone's pick with who they'd want in order? Curious to see the different opinions For the record, my shortlist: Tate (if the planets align right) Fulmer Bregman Benintendi Allard Nikorak
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 24, 2015 19:34:50 GMT -5
Fulmer Bregman Allard
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Post by telson13 on May 24, 2015 21:11:18 GMT -5
Doesn't matter, UCL surgery is replacement with the (much thicker) palmaris longus tendon, not repair of the original ligament. Unless, of course, Aiken is one of the 15% of the population lacking a palmaris longus. In that case, they sometimes use a segment of the Achilles or a cadaveeric transplant. That might be the issue... He has an elbow abnormality that reportedly provides a smaller spot for the new ligament to attach/anchor to. That seems like a legit risk, though I have no idea if those reports are true. Thanks for the info. That might make a little more sense re: concerns (it makes sense...attachment points are basically bony outgrowths that "grow" during development due to stresses, so if his UCL was initially small, I could see that). However, tendon transfer involves drilling the bone and anchoring the tendon, so in practice the small attachment point probably won't matter anyway. During healing and use the bone will grow in response to the new stresses. I still think it's a factitious concern, and I'm surprised it's not been declared as such by medical staffs. Unless, of course, teams are keeping it "out there" as a bargaining instrument, which would be completely unsurprising. FWIW, I still like Aiken a lot at 7 if he takes a slightly below-slot deal. I also like Benintendi a lot, although I understand the concern given his lack of wood bat experience. I guess I figure that even if he doesn't hit for power in pro ball the way he has with aluminum, he still hits for high average, hits LDs, and has a terrific BB:K ratio. Seems like his hit tool is plus...as a sophomore, he's young for the draft and could develop more power down the line. I'd be happy to see Tate or Fullmer drop, though that may not happen. Not sure how I feel about Bregman...he seems like he could stick at SS and that's a huge plus (even if he couldn't bump Bogey, he would have good trade value), but I'm not sure how his bat translates. If he's a .280/.350/.420 hitter with 15 HR that's great at SS but I'm not sure it plays all that well elsewhere.
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Post by telson13 on May 24, 2015 21:21:54 GMT -5
1) Jay (probably not going to happen) 2) Tate (same) 3) Aiken (if about 75% of slot) 3) Fullmer I have obvious concerns about TJ recovery, but still love Aiken's command and three plus pitches, not to mention his youth. I'd be similarly happy with Fullmer...I could see him pulling a Lincecum. Not keen on his command issues, but pro coaching may help the (now milder) head whack and hey, the guy's been ridiculously healthy. Love the McDaniel story on him and the "black swan" phenomenon. 5) Benintendi 6) Bregman 7) Nikorak 8) Allard
Obviously, the presumption is Swanson and Rodgers don't fall. I'm in agreement that Cameron would be a disappointment.
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Post by mainesox on May 24, 2015 22:13:40 GMT -5
It's ever changing, but I'd probably go:
Rogers Jay Swanson Tate Fulmer Nikorak Tucker Benintendi Bregman Whitley
Edit: Speaking of ever changing... After sticking Buehler at the end of the list it just didn't feel right to me, so I changed it to Whitley.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 24, 2015 22:16:15 GMT -5
It's ever changing, but I'd probably go: Rogers Jay Swanson Tate Fulmer Nikorak Tucker Benintendi Bregman Buehler I like Tucker a lot. I'm not sure why people aren't hyping him more. Seems like a plus hit with plus plus power potential. Not sure whats not to like out of a young HS OF
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Post by mainesox on May 24, 2015 22:52:48 GMT -5
It's ever changing, but I'd probably go: Rogers Jay Swanson Tate Fulmer Nikorak Tucker Benintendi Bregman Buehler I like Tucker a lot. I'm not sure why people aren't hyping him more. Seems like a plus hit with plus plus power potential. Not sure whats not to like out of a young HS OF Especially one who has a chance to stick in CF (there are some questions about his ability to stick, but most at least say it's a possibility).
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Post by GyIantosca on May 24, 2015 23:19:25 GMT -5
I sticking with Aiken and I coming around on Bregman because they know all about him. I hope some other team takes Tate and Fullmer. Before us.
I like the idea on getting Aiken to take a discount.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 25, 2015 0:04:22 GMT -5
I sticking with Aiken and I coming around on Bregman because they know all about him. I hope some other team takes Tate and Fullmer. Before us. I like the idea on getting Aiken to take a discount. What good is it to get a discount on Aiken if his medicals are really bad? If his medicals were great, I'd be very interested in him. Assuming the strong possibility that his medicals are shaky, I'd realistically hope for: Fulmer Benintendi Bregman In that order.
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 25, 2015 4:37:13 GMT -5
Taking the most famous Robert Newton line from the film "Treasure Island": "Oh for 10 toes", when John Silver had the peg leg. Wishing, or wanting Aiken to be post TJ with his newfounded medical issues, just like John Silver was less of a person with 5 toes than others with 10.
There are reasons we can be pretty sure that Aiken's name has not come up in the top 10 selections on any of the supposed guru sites.
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 25, 2015 7:00:54 GMT -5
Taking the most famous Robert Newton line from the film "Treasure Island": "Oh for 10 toes", when John Silver had the peg leg. Wishing, or wanting Aiken to be post TJ with his newfounded medical issues, just like John Silver was less of a person with 5 toes than others with 10. There are reasons we can be pretty sure that Aiken's name has not come up in the top 10 selections on any of the supposed guru sites. Arrr, me thinks yea likes yer rum laddie! I think I like "Long John" better than Cameron. But we'd have to put him at first with that leg problem. June 8th seems a long way off.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 25, 2015 7:46:35 GMT -5
My pick is Andrew Benintendi.
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Post by mannofsteele on May 25, 2015 7:51:45 GMT -5
Allard, Bregman, Aiken, Tucker, Fullmer. That's the list for me.
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Post by myleskennefick on May 25, 2015 9:38:39 GMT -5
None of the college guys likely to make it to 7 strike me as future impact, so I'd prefer the sox take Allard, Tucker or Cameron
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Post by nomar on May 25, 2015 9:42:14 GMT -5
I don't think the Cameron hate is justified. He may not have a plus hit or power tool right now, but his swing is very nice for a righty. Very smooth. If he's anything like his dad, he could be a plus defender in CF. if we believe in his bat it isn't a bad pick.
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Post by nomar on May 25, 2015 9:52:36 GMT -5
I personally want Tucker but there seems to be a small chance that we choose him. He has monster upside offensively.
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Post by alnipper on May 25, 2015 10:26:38 GMT -5
Does anybody have a link about Aiken's medicals coming back bad?
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Post by chavopepe2 on May 25, 2015 10:30:04 GMT -5
I like Tate, Fulmer, and Bregman quite a bit. Allard, Rodgers and Tucker intrigue me. I liked the video on Benintendi and would be happy with him.
That's 7 and doesn't count Jay or Swanson, so we should land a pretty good prospect. I'd love Tate or Fulmer.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 25, 2015 11:01:24 GMT -5
I've already posted "my rankings" so I'd pick base on that.
My # 1 scenario would be to get Dillon Tate. After that I like Fulmer or Bregman so either would be good with me. If non of them are available I would look long and hard at Kolby Allard. If the medical team says the injury is no long term risk then I pick him. Beyond that I wouldn't mind Kyle Tucker.
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Post by nomar on May 25, 2015 11:20:29 GMT -5
Does anybody have a link about Aiken's medicals coming back bad? I think every mock draft points to the fact that they have.
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