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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 13, 2013 12:42:37 GMT -5
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Post by remember04 on Feb 13, 2013 14:33:15 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the kid because if I remember correctly he was drafted by San Diego and something weird went on where both sides wanted an agreement but it didn't happen. That said I've been wanting us to avoid him at all costs but if we can see a major drop in his stock then depending on where we could get him I might be for drafting him.
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Post by jdb on Feb 13, 2013 17:11:25 GMT -5
SD was supposedly going to take Vitek at 9 that year but went Whiston at the last moment.
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Post by kindasweaty on Feb 13, 2013 21:56:51 GMT -5
Man if only. . .
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Post by mredsox89 on Feb 14, 2013 0:38:30 GMT -5
Whitson basically refused to go to SD and they drafted him anyways. Turned down a $3M+ bonus to go to UF, where he's done everything but live up to expectations. Jason Churchill thinks he'll get a 5th round grade or so at this point unless he recovers and pitches well
Family is well off and his parents went to UF, that's why he went there. But I can't imagine he ever figured he'd fall this far this fast
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Post by remember04 on Feb 14, 2013 10:45:53 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 14, 2013 18:50:45 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 15, 2013 18:07:30 GMT -5
I found a website with the daily College Baseball D-1 scores: www.d1baseball.com/2013/daily/0215.htmHere is how guys that we should keep an eye on performed on the 1st day of College action: Ryne Stanek, RHP, Arkansas 4IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4K Kent Emmanuel, LHP, UNC 9IP, 4H, 0 ER, 0 R, 5K Carlos Rondon, LHP, NC State 5IP, 5 H, 5ER, 1 BB, 8 K (Top prospect for 2014 and the best arm in College baseball.) Edit: Kevin Ziomek, LHP, Vanderbilt 6IP, 4H, 1ER, 1BB, 7 K Jonathon Crawford, RHP, Florida 3.2 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, HR, 3B, 2B Mark Appel, RHP, Stanford 5IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 K Austin Wilson, RF, Stanford 0/3, 2 K Bobby Wahl, RHP, Ole Miss 6.1 IP, 3 H, 3 BB, 8 K Philip Ervin, CF, Samford 3/5, HR, K I'll put more as the games start to conclude if you have any names to keep an eye on you can post them here.
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Post by jdb on Feb 16, 2013 12:27:29 GMT -5
Thanks for that.
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 16, 2013 12:53:48 GMT -5
Sean Manaea Friday, 4 IP 4 hits1 ER, 3 walks and 6 Ks vs. IPFW (?)
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Post by hairps on Feb 16, 2013 16:54:10 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 16, 2013 18:34:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the info I used to have them but for some reason I unfollowed them or lost them.
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Post by templeusox on Feb 17, 2013 11:45:57 GMT -5
Mark Appel is doing nothing to dispel the notion that he isn't worth a pick in the first three rounds. Can we trust the team who took Deven Marrero to understand that? Probably not.
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Post by sdiaz1 on Feb 17, 2013 12:22:48 GMT -5
Mark Appel is doing nothing to dispel the notion that he isn't worth a pick in the first three rounds. Can we trust the team who took Deven Marrero to understand that? Probably not. Awesome job of using a smple size of five innings to make a sweeping declaration about a players value. Appel is as of right now a consensus top 10 pick. He could concievably fall to the back end of the first round, but as long as he does not suffer any serious injury the dude is undoubtedly picked (justifiably - I maight add) before the end of the first round.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 17, 2013 13:51:03 GMT -5
This is not the first time temple has spread not liking Appel so I don't think he's talking based on 5 innings.
There are a lot of people who don't like Appel because of his inconsistency. Sometimes he looks like an ace then looks like a 3rd round pick, so you can say he's Hochevar lite.
I agree that he ain't going in the 3rd round but if he struggles then he might because of his agent.
He's probably gonna be the Red Sox pick.
Edit: BTW since we are talking about Appel I found this vid of his start.
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Post by jdb on Feb 17, 2013 19:20:52 GMT -5
Temple why don't you like Appel? Just curious I always like to hear others reasoning. I've seen scouting reports that have him with good FB movement and with a straight very hittable FB. Isn't he a good bet to become at least a mid rotation guy.
Anyone have an idea about the money he was after last year? Turned down 3.8 million but you would think he has less leverage now. Last year the 7th pick had a$3 million slot.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Feb 17, 2013 19:39:55 GMT -5
Granted it was one video, but Appel's fastball looked very straight and he wasn't missing many bats. I also don't like the combination of a senior with Boras as his agent, particularly after he turned down approx $3.8 million last year.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 17, 2013 21:23:36 GMT -5
Well the Red Sox gave Marrero 500K above slot after a tough Jr season so don't worry.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 17, 2013 21:55:16 GMT -5
Is it fair of me to think of this as a bust if we draft and sign Appel? I don't think I'd be completely trashed but I would be disappointed
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 17, 2013 22:44:28 GMT -5
I would feel disappointed if they break their budget on him yes.
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Post by sdiaz1 on Feb 17, 2013 23:33:11 GMT -5
A tidbit from the guy at Baseballprospect Nation regarding Appel and his Fastball ( A site that I admitedly am quite fond of) "Has life in the strike zone and is difficult to square up. Ball jumps out of his hand. When his arm slot dips, he can get some arm-side movement that gets in hard on right-handed hitters. Good angle to the plate compensates for lack of vertical movement. When he elevates, ball will show some “hop” and consistently miss the barrel of the bat. Consistently imparting movement as desired would be a big step forward. Grade – 60/70" baseballprospectnation.com/2012/03/12/draft-scouting-report-mark-appel-rhp/
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Post by jioh on Feb 18, 2013 4:40:52 GMT -5
This Appel-bashing seems a little excessive to me. Of course if he doesn't pitch well this year he will not be drafted as highly as he will if he pitches well, but don't most most reports indicate he he has a higher likelihood than anyone out there to be the one thing (well, the one thing besides 1b) that our system needs, a #1?
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 18, 2013 10:16:43 GMT -5
What's wrong with Marrero? Did the Sox give him an invitation to train with the major leaguers to cover up some mistake in the draft process and fool the public?
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Post by templeusox on Feb 18, 2013 10:28:10 GMT -5
Temple why don't you like Appel? Just curious I always like to hear others reasoning. I've seen scouting reports that have him with good FB movement and with a straight very hittable FB. Isn't he a good bet to become at least a mid rotation guy. Anyone have an idea about the money he was after last year? Turned down 3.8 million but you would think he has less leverage now. Last year the 7th pick had a$3 million slot. Because the scouting reports have always far exceeded the production by so much, that there's clearly a disconnect. Going off the scouting reports, he should be one of the most dominant starting pitchers since Prior. Yet, he's not. Here's merely pretty good.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 18, 2013 11:29:19 GMT -5
This Appel-bashing seems a little excessive to me. Of course if he doesn't pitch well this year he will not be drafted as highly as he will if he pitches well, but don't most most reports indicate he he has a higher likelihood than anyone out there to be the one thing (well, the one thing besides 1b) that our system needs, a #1? 1) Nobody is bashing Appel he clearly has the stuff of a front line pitcher. 2) The problem is he's way too inconsistent and get hit around way too often for a guy with such stuff. The report above says he has movement in his FB but I have seen it pretty straight and pretty hittable(on tv before anybody asks). He reminds me of Hochevar who had the same problem in college and it has continue in pro-ball. If they pick him it wouldn't be the worst pick they have made but I wouldn't like it specially since he'll be looking for well above the slot for the 7th pick.
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