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Jay Bruce
Aug 24, 2014 0:52:27 GMT -5
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Post by bryce on Aug 24, 2014 0:52:27 GMT -5
After the possibility we go after Jason Heyward,I think we still need one more LH guy in the corner outfield and get rid of Cuban Missile-Cespedes,I think Jay Bruce is a fantastic one(don't you think?)It may also be extended to a blockbuster including Mat Latos.I know many people are talking about Hamels and Domonic Brown seen as a logical proposal.But I love Bruce more than Brown because of his more steady power.Either way, I really want see two LH power hitting outfielders in our lineup,what is your opinion?
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Post by nomar on Aug 24, 2014 17:26:14 GMT -5
He only hits at home because of the short porch in Cincinnati. He doesn't hit well away, and he wouldn't hit well at Fenway with our deep RF.
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Post by bryce on Aug 24, 2014 23:00:02 GMT -5
Isn't the Fenway Park is friendly to LH bats? Our rightfield is far away but shallow, so it's easy for a guy like Bruce to hit HR. I think he would fit well here. Maybe his positions will be moved from RF to in front of the Green Monster.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 25, 2014 6:46:59 GMT -5
It is shallow only at the RF foul pole. Then it dramatically juts back toward the bullpen. LH hitters who are not strictly pull hitters can do well at Fenway if they can direct the baseball to the wall. Papi is an exception, of course.
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Post by bryce on Aug 25, 2014 6:56:34 GMT -5
It is shallow only at the RF foul pole. Then it dramatically juts back toward the bullpen. LH hitters who are not strictly pull hitters can do well at Fenway if they can direct the baseball to the wall. Papi is an exception, of course. I see Bruce as the same guy whose hitting approach like Papi. He just need "time" to get accustomed to the ballpark. He would do well as what he did in Big American Ballpark.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Aug 25, 2014 8:33:36 GMT -5
It is shallow only at the RF foul pole. Then it dramatically juts back toward the bullpen. LH hitters who are not strictly pull hitters can do well at Fenway if they can direct the baseball to the wall. Papi is an exception, of course. I see Bruce as the same guy whose hitting approach like Papi. He just need "time" to get accustomed to the ballpark. He would do well as what he did in Big American Ballpark. 2008-09 Papi. That's not a good thing
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Post by bryce on Aug 25, 2014 9:05:36 GMT -5
I think he will be bounce back unless he gets injuried again. He is still that guys who can hit over 25+ or even 30+ home run in the near future.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 25, 2014 9:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by bryce on Aug 25, 2014 11:16:25 GMT -5
But I really think we shoud not only get Heyward but also another LH outfield guy such as Bruce or others. Stay away from Stanton is a wise choice.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 25, 2014 12:48:43 GMT -5
But I really think we shoud not only get Heyward but also another LH outfield guy such as Bruce or others. Stay away from Stanton is a wise choice. I get that the Sox should ideally balance their lineup out leftywise, but I have no idea why you want Jay Bruce so bad. He's not that good. He's just not. I'd prefer a Cespedes/Castillo/Betts outfield to a Cespedes/Castillo/Bruce outfield. At least that outfield will have two speedsters who can play CF in it, something that is an advantage at Fenway. I'd prefer Heyward to Bruce, but honestly he's a good player, and I wouldn't mind having him, but he hasn't fully blossomed like it looked he would earlier on in his career. He's still young, so if the Sox can get him at a palatable cost (my guess is it would cost them Mookie), then the Sox should do it - I don't consider dealing Mookie a palatable cost for Heyward. If Heyward is that good, then I'd prefer the Sox wait to try to get him as a free agent. I don't see why not trying to get Stanton would be a wise choice. It may not be a choice until 2016, but the Sox would be foolish not to try to get him. Heyward is not better than Stanton, and the fact that he's lefty and Stanton isn't doesn't change that.
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Post by bryce on Aug 25, 2014 19:35:30 GMT -5
But I really think we shoud not only get Heyward but also another LH outfield guy such as Bruce or others. Stay away from Stanton is a wise choice. I get that the Sox should ideally balance their lineup out leftywise, but I have no idea why you want Jay Bruce so bad. He's not that good. He's just not. I'd prefer a Cespedes/Castillo/Betts outfield to a Cespedes/Castillo/Bruce outfield. At least that outfield will have two speedsters who can play CF in it, something that is an advantage at Fenway. I'd prefer Heyward to Bruce, but honestly he's a good player, and I wouldn't mind having him, but he hasn't fully blossomed like it looked he would earlier on in his career. He's still young, so if the Sox can get him at a palatable cost (my guess is it would cost them Mookie), then the Sox should do it - I don't consider dealing Mookie a palatable cost for Heyward. If Heyward is that good, then I'd prefer the Sox wait to try to get him as a free agent. I don't see why not trying to get Stanton would be a wise choice. It may not be a choice until 2016, but the Sox would be foolish not to try to get him. Heyward is not better than Stanton, and the fact that he's lefty and Stanton isn't doesn't change that. I said a lot of time. I didn't mean I prefer Bruce to Heyward. I know Heyward ,of course,is our primary choice. After acquiring him,we still have only three LH bats in our starting lineup(DH,3B,RF). So I said I want 2 (LH power hitting outfielder). One is Heyward,but the other? Bruce just an example of that. Because he is one of few LH power hitting outfielders who can hit over 25 or even 30 HR. And he will be 28 next year,it's still young for us. That's why I take a lot of example of him. If all of you don't like Bruce. There are other choice such as Domonic Brown. He is a young guy,too. Maybe a blockbuster including Hamels and Brown would work it. Stay away from Carlos Gonzalez because of his age 30 next year and his usual injury recent year. Also,CarGo will cost us a lot as much as Stanton,so I don't like the idea.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 25, 2014 21:58:22 GMT -5
I get that the Sox should ideally balance their lineup out leftywise, but I have no idea why you want Jay Bruce so bad. He's not that good. He's just not. I'd prefer a Cespedes/Castillo/Betts outfield to a Cespedes/Castillo/Bruce outfield. At least that outfield will have two speedsters who can play CF in it, something that is an advantage at Fenway. I'd prefer Heyward to Bruce, but honestly he's a good player, and I wouldn't mind having him, but he hasn't fully blossomed like it looked he would earlier on in his career. He's still young, so if the Sox can get him at a palatable cost (my guess is it would cost them Mookie), then the Sox should do it - I don't consider dealing Mookie a palatable cost for Heyward. If Heyward is that good, then I'd prefer the Sox wait to try to get him as a free agent. I don't see why not trying to get Stanton would be a wise choice. It may not be a choice until 2016, but the Sox would be foolish not to try to get him. Heyward is not better than Stanton, and the fact that he's lefty and Stanton isn't doesn't change that. I said a lot of time. I didn't mean I prefer Bruce to Heyward. I know Heyward ,of course,is our primary choice. After acquiring him,we still have only three LH bats in our starting lineup(DH,3B,RF). So I said I want 2 (LH power hitting outfielder). One is Heyward,but the other? Bruce just an example of that. Because he is one of few LH power hitting outfielders who can hit over 25 or even 30 HR. And he will be 28 next year,it's still young for us. That's why I take a lot of example of him. If all of you don't like Bruce. There are other choice such as Domonic Brown. He is a young guy,too. Maybe a blockbuster including Hamels and Brown would work it. Stay away from Carlos Gonzalez because of his age 30 next year and his usual injury recent year. Also,CarGo will cost us a lot as much as Stanton,so I don't like the idea. Meh, I'd rather take my chances with Cespedes/Castillo/Betts in the outfield, not that I think that's going to happen. I don't want the Sox to get a lefty just for the sake of getting a lefty. Domonic Brown hasn't been that great either. Frankly, as far as Heyward and Stanton go, I'd much rather wait until they're free agents to go chase them, and I do believe they'll wind up free agents. The Braves will keep Heyward and take the draft pick because they are competing for a playoff spot in 2015. The Marlins will keep Stanton until they have to deal him, and when they do, unless it's to LA or some really, really loaded team that can extend him at free agent prices, he'll become a free agent and make a record setting contract as a free agent.
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Post by bryce on Aug 25, 2014 23:34:53 GMT -5
I said a lot of time. I didn't mean I prefer Bruce to Heyward. I know Heyward ,of course,is our primary choice. After acquiring him,we still have only three LH bats in our starting lineup(DH,3B,RF). So I said I want 2 (LH power hitting outfielder). One is Heyward,but the other? Bruce just an example of that. Because he is one of few LH power hitting outfielders who can hit over 25 or even 30 HR. And he will be 28 next year,it's still young for us. That's why I take a lot of example of him. If all of you don't like Bruce. There are other choice such as Domonic Brown. He is a young guy,too. Maybe a blockbuster including Hamels and Brown would work it. Stay away from Carlos Gonzalez because of his age 30 next year and his usual injury recent year. Also,CarGo will cost us a lot as much as Stanton,so I don't like the idea. Meh, I'd rather take my chances with Cespedes/Castillo/Betts in the outfield, not that I think that's going to happen. I don't want the Sox to get a lefty just for the sake of getting a lefty. Domonic Brown hasn't been that great either. Frankly, as far as Heyward and Stanton go, I'd much rather wait until they're free agents to go chase them, and I do believe they'll wind up free agents. The Braves will keep Heyward and take the draft pick because they are competing for a playoff spot in 2015. The Marlins will keep Stanton until they have to deal him, and when they do, unless it's to LA or some really, really loaded team that can extend him at free agent prices, he'll become a free agent and make a record setting contract as a free agent. Cespedes is a power guy that the Sox really need,but he isn't hitting for average. He has arm but is not defensive. He always let the ball down the field first and then throws. This just makes one runner out! Other cannon arm users like JBJ,Gerardo Parra and Ichiro can catch the ball and throw. This results in a double play. So I don't think he will fit well here. According to the news, he is still a normal guy who loves money,so he must be reluctent to extend the contract earlier and he will go to free agent to get a big contract. That isn't a good news to Red Sox! Betts has no power potential which refers to hit over 20 HR as a corner outfield guy. He is a typical centerfielder who has range but no arm. But we have Castillo now. I will expect him to be traded to get a pitcher that the Sox is eager to have. Bruce,Heyward and Brown are all young guys who have power potential and may breakout again. It's worth to wait for them. In the same,they are in their down year,so it's the best time for us to get two of them at a lower cost,and then expect them to bounce back next year. If we pursue Stanton or Heyward when they hit free agency, it means we will need to bid for them with other clubs. This will result in a lot of cost the Sox will take. It's not a wise idea.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 26, 2014 0:08:16 GMT -5
Cespedes is a power guy that the Sox really need,but he isn't hitting for average. He has arm but is not defensive. He always let the ball down the field first and then throws. This just makes one runner out! Other cannon arm users like JBJ,Gerardo Parra and Ichiro can catch the ball and throw. This results in a double play. So I don't think he will fit well here. According to the news, he is still a normal guy who loves money,so he must be reluctent to extend the contract earlier and he will go to free agent to get a big contract. That isn't a good news to Red Sox! Betts has no power potential which refers to hit over 20 HR as a corner outfield guy. He is a typical centerfielder who has range but no arm. But we have Castillo now. I will expect him to be traded to get a pitcher that the Sox is eager to have. Bruce,Heyward and Brown are all young guys who have power potential and may breakout again. It's worth to wait for them. In the same,they are in their down year,so it's the best time for us to get two of them at a lower cost,and then expect them to bounce back next year. If we pursue Stanton or Heyward when they hit free agency, it means we will need to bid for them with other clubs. This will result in a lot of cost the Sox will take. It's not a wise idea. I'd still take Betts over Bruce and Brown and I prefer him to Heyward. Mookie probably won't hit 20 homers per year, but 12 - 15 isn't out of the question. I believe he'll be a .300 hitter who competes for a batting title and will be selective enough to be a highly effective leadoff hitter who can steal bases. Last time I checked the Sox still need a legit leadoff hitter to replace what Ellsbury gave them. Don't know that Castillo will be patient enough to be a leadoff hitter. Despite his mediocre OBP, Cespedes isn't going anywhere in 2015, at least not until July 31st. He is a corner OF for the Sox. We know Castillo is the second and we know that between Betts, Craig, Nava, and Victorino, that probably one or two of those guys will fill the other corner OF spot. I do agree with you that Betts will probably wind up in a package for a pitcher. Most likely Heyward, Stanton, Bruce, and Brown are not going to be a corner OF for the Sox in 2015. And if the Sox ever did get Heyward or Stanton, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't eventually be competing with other clubs for their services. Trading for them isn't the same as trading and automatically re-signing for an extension.
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Jay Bruce
Aug 26, 2014 2:55:29 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Aug 26, 2014 2:55:29 GMT -5
I still disagree with the idea that the projected 2015 roster is too right-handed and so they need to add a LHH OF. RHH usually have pretty small platoon splits, and guys like Napoli and Craig and Cespedes still hit righties pretty well. IIRC, Craig's career line versus righties is better than Bruce's, for instance.
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Post by bryce on Aug 26, 2014 3:15:55 GMT -5
Cespedes is a power guy that the Sox really need,but he isn't hitting for average. He has arm but is not defensive. He always let the ball down the field first and then throws. This just makes one runner out! Other cannon arm users like JBJ,Gerardo Parra and Ichiro can catch the ball and throw. This results in a double play. So I don't think he will fit well here. According to the news, he is still a normal guy who loves money,so he must be reluctent to extend the contract earlier and he will go to free agent to get a big contract. That isn't a good news to Red Sox! Betts has no power potential which refers to hit over 20 HR as a corner outfield guy. He is a typical centerfielder who has range but no arm. But we have Castillo now. I will expect him to be traded to get a pitcher that the Sox is eager to have. Bruce,Heyward and Brown are all young guys who have power potential and may breakout again. It's worth to wait for them. In the same,they are in their down year,so it's the best time for us to get two of them at a lower cost,and then expect them to bounce back next year. If we pursue Stanton or Heyward when they hit free agency, it means we will need to bid for them with other clubs. This will result in a lot of cost the Sox will take. It's not a wise idea. I'd still take Betts over Bruce and Brown and I prefer him to Heyward. Mookie probably won't hit 20 homers per year, but 12 - 15 isn't out of the question. I believe he'll be a .300 hitter who competes for a batting title and will be selective enough to be a highly effective leadoff hitter who can steal bases. Last time I checked the Sox still need a legit leadoff hitter to replace what Ellsbury gave them. Don't know that Castillo will be patient enough to be a leadoff hitter. Despite his mediocre OBP, Cespedes isn't going anywhere in 2015, at least not until July 31st. He is a corner OF for the Sox. We know Castillo is the second and we know that between Betts, Craig, Nava, and Victorino, that probably one or two of those guys will fill the other corner OF spot. I do agree with you that Betts will probably wind up in a package for a pitcher. Most likely Heyward, Stanton, Bruce, and Brown are not going to be a corner OF for the Sox in 2015. And if the Sox ever did get Heyward or Stanton, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't eventually be competing with other clubs for their services. Trading for them isn't the same as trading and automatically re-signing for an extension. Most of teams' RF is power hitters and have cannon arm,but I don't think Betts will fit in that area because of his lack of power and weak arm. JBJ is seen as a bright future before just like Betts. Some scouting report said he could hit 10-15 HR in MLB just like what you said about Betts. See? Yes,he did it in AAA,but not repeat it in the majors. It proves that my eyesight is correct. I think Betts is the same guy,so we should trade Betts into the package to get an ace pitcher. I think Cespedes is a poor defensive guy that will not fit well in Fenway Park even if he has the power the Sox need. He can't catch the ball very well. I do want to trade him to bring back another needs.
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Post by bryce on Aug 26, 2014 3:18:03 GMT -5
I still disagree with the idea that the projected 2015 roster is too right-handed and so they need to add a LHH OF. RHH usually have pretty small platoon splits, and guys like Napoli and Craig and Cespedes still hit righties pretty well. IIRC, Craig's career line versus righties is better than Bruce's, for instance. I think if we faced an elite righty such as King-Felix and Max Scherzer,etc, you won't say it is OK for us to face.
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Post by bryce on Aug 26, 2014 3:32:39 GMT -5
In my proposal this winter:
1.sign a great pitcher in the free agent(Ex.Justin Masterson,James Shields)
2.package JBJ,Garin Cecchini,Shane Victorino(eat some of his salary) and one pitching prospect for Jason Heyward
3.package Yoenis Cespedes,Mookie Betts,Deven Marrero,Daniel Nava and two pitching prospects for Mat Latos and Jay Bruce
4.give Travis Shaw a shot at 3B
5.Trade away Mike Napoli for the rest of Sox's other need,and put Allen Craig in 1B
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 26, 2014 12:35:33 GMT -5
I'd still take Betts over Bruce and Brown and I prefer him to Heyward. Mookie probably won't hit 20 homers per year, but 12 - 15 isn't out of the question. I believe he'll be a .300 hitter who competes for a batting title and will be selective enough to be a highly effective leadoff hitter who can steal bases. Last time I checked the Sox still need a legit leadoff hitter to replace what Ellsbury gave them. Don't know that Castillo will be patient enough to be a leadoff hitter. Despite his mediocre OBP, Cespedes isn't going anywhere in 2015, at least not until July 31st. He is a corner OF for the Sox. We know Castillo is the second and we know that between Betts, Craig, Nava, and Victorino, that probably one or two of those guys will fill the other corner OF spot. I do agree with you that Betts will probably wind up in a package for a pitcher. Most likely Heyward, Stanton, Bruce, and Brown are not going to be a corner OF for the Sox in 2015. And if the Sox ever did get Heyward or Stanton, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't eventually be competing with other clubs for their services. Trading for them isn't the same as trading and automatically re-signing for an extension. Most of teams' RF is power hitters and have cannon arm,but I don't think Betts will fit in that area because of his lack of power and weak arm. JBJ is seen as a bright future before just like Betts. Some scouting report said he could hit 10-15 HR in MLB just like what you said about Betts. See? Yes,he did it in AAA,but not repeat it in the majors. It proves that my eyesight is correct. I think Betts is the same guy,so we should trade Betts into the package to get an ace pitcher. I think Cespedes is a poor defensive guy that will not fit well in Fenway Park even if he has the power the Sox need. He can't catch the ball very well. I do want to trade him to bring back another needs. Umm. Betts is NOT the same guy as Bradley. Not even close. Bradley did not dominate AA and AAA, reach the majors while performing decently all at the tender age of 21 like Betts has done this year. Betts is a MUCH better prospect than Bradley. Betts will soon be an excellent hitter who gets on base, hits .300 plus, shows a little bit of pop, and can steal bases. It's not like if he hits 15 homers instead of 20, he's a power liability. He's the guy who can give the Sox what Ellsbury had given them. They need a guy like that. I wouldn't worry too much about his arm. No, he's not Cespedes with his arm, but he's more of a CF type and at Fenway, the Sox need two CF types roaming CF and RF.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 26, 2014 12:48:15 GMT -5
In my proposal this winter: 1.sign a great pitcher in the free agent(Ex.Justin Masterson,James Shields) 2.package JBJ,Garin Cecchini,Shane Victorino(eat some of his salary) and one pitching prospect for Jason Heyward 3.package Yoenis Cespedes,Mookie Betts,Deven Marrero,Daniel Nava and two pitching prospects for Mat Latos and Jay Bruce 4.give Travis Shaw a shot at 3B 5.Trade away Mike Napoli for the rest of Sox's other need,and put Allen Craig in 1B 1) I wouldn't call Masterson a great pitcher. In fact I'd call him a mediocre to poor one. I do think the Sox will sign him. He's not the former Red Sox pitcher that I'd like for the Red Sox to bring back into the organization. And I'd much prefer Lester to Shields, who is good, but if the Sox are worried about Lester's mid 30s, then they'd be paying good money for Shields' mid 30s immediately and giving up a draft pick. Don't know if that makes a ton of sense. 2) Doubt the package you mentioned gets Heyward. No reason for Atlanta to make that deal. 3) I'd rather have Cespedes than Bruce and even though I like Latos, I don't like him enough to surrender Betts. I like Betts' future more than I like Latos and I say that thinking that Latos is a good pitcher. 4) I'd think if the Sox thought he'd be a 3b, they'd be playing Shaw more at 3b, but they haven't. Cecchini is still considered the better prospect despite his down year. It's not the worst idea. I mean he can't be much worse than WMB, can he? 5) Allen Craig is not the offensive player Napoli is nor is he the defensive player. That would be a major downgrade at 1b.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 26, 2014 13:56:00 GMT -5
In my proposal this winter: 1.sign a great pitcher in the free agent(Ex.Justin Masterson,James Shields) 2.package JBJ,Garin Cecchini,Shane Victorino(eat some of his salary) and one pitching prospect for Jason Heyward 3.package Yoenis Cespedes,Mookie Betts,Deven Marrero,Daniel Nava and two pitching prospects for Mat Latos and Jay Bruce 4.give Travis Shaw a shot at 3B 5.Trade away Mike Napoli for the rest of Sox's other need,and put Allen Craig in 1B If you call Justin Masterson a "great pitcher", I question your judgement. A losing career record with and era averaging .479 for the last three seasons makes him at best a #4 starter There are just a few pitchers I would anoint with that description. And they would include Kershaw, King Felix, Verlander and Price.
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Post by jrffam05 on Aug 26, 2014 14:04:37 GMT -5
In my proposal this winter: 1.sign a great pitcher in the free agent(Ex.Justin Masterson,James Shields) 2.package JBJ,Garin Cecchini,Shane Victorino(eat some of his salary) and one pitching prospect for Jason Heyward 3.package Yoenis Cespedes,Mookie Betts,Deven Marrero,Daniel Nava and two pitching prospects for Mat Latos and Jay Bruce 4.give Travis Shaw a shot at 3B 5.Trade away Mike Napoli for the rest of Sox's other need,and put Allen Craig in 1B Let me just point some things out with this proposal. If this happened our outfield depth chart would be 1. Heyward 2. Bruce 3. Castillo 4. Brents?. Our first base depth chart would be 1. Craig 2. Shaw?. Holt would get reps at 3B and SS, but outside of him, for backups we would have Middlebrooks then Herrera. We would be 1 injury away at basically any position from throwing the whole team in disarray. And the main position upgrades we would have is - Bruce over Cespedes, Heyward over Craig, Craig over Napoli. I'm not sure I see anything definitive that would show one of those upgrades being better than the person they are replacing. Napoli is a lot better than Craig at 1B in my eyes. JBJ, Cecchini, Victorino, Betts, Marrero, Nava might not be starters on this team, but they are all worth their weight as back ups, and should all contribute to the 2015 team at some point. These are the types of players that hold teams together over 162 games, and the type of players no team can win a championship without.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 26, 2014 15:28:22 GMT -5
In my proposal this winter: 1.sign a great pitcher in the free agent(Ex.Justin Masterson,James Shields) 2.package JBJ,Garin Cecchini,Shane Victorino(eat some of his salary) and one pitching prospect for Jason Heyward 3.package Yoenis Cespedes,Mookie Betts,Deven Marrero,Daniel Nava and two pitching prospects for Mat Latos and Jay Bruce 4.give Travis Shaw a shot at 3B 5.Trade away Mike Napoli for the rest of Sox's other need,and put Allen Craig in 1B I'd do all of that except for 2,3,4,5.
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Post by bryce on Aug 30, 2014 10:42:50 GMT -5
In my proposal this winter: 1.sign a great pitcher in the free agent(Ex.Justin Masterson,James Shields) 2.package JBJ,Garin Cecchini,Shane Victorino(eat some of his salary) and one pitching prospect for Jason Heyward 3.package Yoenis Cespedes,Mookie Betts,Deven Marrero,Daniel Nava and two pitching prospects for Mat Latos and Jay Bruce 4.give Travis Shaw a shot at 3B 5.Trade away Mike Napoli for the rest of Sox's other need,and put Allen Craig in 1B If you call Justin Masterson a "great pitcher", I question your judgement. A losing career record with and era averaging .479 for the last three seasons makes him at best a #4 starter There are just a few pitchers I would anoint with that description. And they would include Kershaw, King Felix, Verlander and Price. Justin Masterson is a former ace of Indians. I usually take the guys who can hold on No.1 starter in the team into the"great pitcher" category. There are my own categories of pitcher: 1.dominant pitcher:the pitcher who could win the Cy Young. Ex.King-Felix,David Price,Clayton Kershaw,Justin Verlander,Zack Greinke,Max Scherzer,etc. 2.great pitcher:the pitcher who can have the ability to be No.1 starter or pitch the opening game of his team. Ex.Jered Weaver,James Shields,Jon Lester,Justin Masterson,Adam Wainwright,Yovani Gallardo,etc. 3.good pitcher:the pitcher who can start well steadily but still lack of dominant performance. Ex.Wei-Yin Chen,Kyle Lohse,Clay Buchholz,Ervin Santana,Madison Bumgarner,Jason Vargas,Sonny Gray,etc. 4.normal pitcher:the pitcher whose performance is not good but enough for himself to stay in MLB. Ex.Jason Hammel,Trevor Cahill,Scott Feldman,John Danks,Travis Wood,Paul Maholm,etc. 5.bad pitcher:As you know,the bad one who is always be beated in MLB start.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 30, 2014 12:29:33 GMT -5
Guess what Brett Anderson (COL), Tanner Scheppers (TEX), Andrew Cashner (SD), and Scott Feldman (HOU) all have in common? They are "great" pitchers because they started their team's opening day game)!
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