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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 13:56:49 GMT -5
GCLSox won 6-2.
Ranaudo has lowered his MPH for the last few months, not sure why but not topping at 91, has been sitting 91-93ish topping at about 94.
From his profile:
Fastball sits 92-94 mph and tops out at 95 mph. Historically has been able to get up to 98 mph.
I'm guessing there's somewhat of a speed/command tradeoff but that's a guess and I haven't seen any pitch anywhere near 98 but I also haven't seen all or even most of his pitches.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Aug 30, 2014 14:16:20 GMT -5
GCLSox won 6-2. Ranaudo has lowered his MPH for the last few months, not sure why but not topping at 91, has been sitting 91-93ish topping at about 94. From his profile: Fastball sits 92-94 mph and tops out at 95 mph. Historically has been able to get up to 98 mph. I'm guessing there's somewhat of a speed/command tradeoff but that's a guess and I haven't seen any pitch anywhere near 98 but I also haven't seen all or even most of his pitches. It's the same thing that happened to him last year in the middle of June. He's probably just tiring.
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Post by jmei on Aug 30, 2014 14:37:03 GMT -5
In his three major league starts this year (all of which were in August), Ranaudo has been averaging 91.9 mph with a max of 93.9 (per his PITCHf/x data). That doesn't seem super out of line with past scouting reports-- maybe one mph slower than usual at most, which isn't much.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 30, 2014 17:27:33 GMT -5
Two run dinger by Devers. Dinger doesn't give it justice. It was a high, towering shot out to LF. Kemp's was more of a L/D, but the one by Devers was an awe inspiring and showed off his power.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 18:18:03 GMT -5
In his three major league starts this year (all of which were in August), Ranaudo has been averaging 91.9 mph with a max of 93.9 (per his PITCHf/x data). That doesn't seem super out of line with past scouting reports-- maybe one mph slower than usual at most, which isn't much. That's more in line with what I've seen. I was assuming he was talking about yesterday's game which I wasn't able to see, pre-school activities, daughter's not mine. Maybe he meant Workman who I've noticed a velocity drop eerily similar to what happened with Doubront earlier in the year. In both cases, they took a little time off, started back at normal speeds then dropped significantly over the first few innings of their first games back. ADD: He said in an article that he's not tiring and feels very strong. He did say though that recently he's been trying to nibble too much rather than trusting his stuff and planned to change that.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 18:36:26 GMT -5
Salem won the first half of their doubleheader 5-1. Excellent game by Light who went the distance. Margot played (1/2 2B),so ankle OK. Important games for Salem's playoff hopes.
PawSox down 5-2 after 5. Barnes peripherals look better than the score. Dogs up 5-0 after 5. Haley dealing but peripherals different (more K's less GO). Coyle with a HR and 2B.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 30, 2014 18:39:42 GMT -5
Isn't that what happens, pitchers start nibbling and their velocity drops as a result.
When ranaudo starts hitting his spots, the velocity will return. His stuff is prime time if all his pitches are working.
Unfortunately for workman, he stuff is not prime time enough for two or three times through a lineup. He needs to go to the pen where he can contribute more than as a starter.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 18:46:09 GMT -5
Ranaudo was talking about nibbling with his off speed, not his fastball. jmei's data pretty much said same velocity. I also saw a pitch chart from yesterday, he wasn't nibbling (his quote was last week, not after this game) but the height of his pitches was higher than usual, it didn't match his season locations.
You're right, Workman doesn't have Ranaudo's stuff and I agree that he's better in the pen if he's on a pennant contender. On the other hand, Ranaudo doesn't have workman's command.
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Post by jmei on Aug 30, 2014 18:50:36 GMT -5
Isn't that what happens, pitchers start nibbling and their velocity drops as a result. When ranaudo starts hitting his spots, the velocity will return. His stuff is prime time if all his pitches are working. This is literally the opposite of conventional wisdom. Usually, the harder you try to throw, the worse your command will be.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 30, 2014 19:06:06 GMT -5
Isn't that what happens, pitchers start nibbling and their velocity drops as a result. When ranaudo starts hitting his spots, the velocity will return. His stuff is prime time if all his pitches are working. This is literally the opposite of conventional wisdom. Usually, the harder you try to throw, the worse your command will be. The harder you try to throw, the more your mechanics break down.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 19:06:16 GMT -5
Ranaudo has altered his delivery slightly. He's pretty much eliminated everything for the pre-load. Very simple delivery now.
Aro is the TBD in the Salem 2nd game. 0-0 early Greenville 0-0 after 3. Drive are being no-hit so far. Spinners 0-0 bottom 3rd. . Haley with an excellent start, went 7 4 hits 1 walk, 9 Ks. He's lowered his Portland ERA to 1.19. 5-0 top of the 8th. . PawSox lost 6-2. Brentz only PawSox with multihits 2/4 with a 2B. He's been hitting well since his return from the DL. . Portland won 5-1, clinched best season in team history. KDLC with a rare bad game 1/4 3Ks. Coyle 2/4 2B, HR . Salem 0-0 4th Drive up 3-0 5th. Ball throwing strikes, Procyshen with his first pro HR. Spinners down 3-0 after 6. . Pat Light's line (1st game) 7IP 1ER 3H 0BB 2K 1HRA . Ball's final line 6IP 5H 0R 0BB 5K 85/58. Drive still up 3-0.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 30, 2014 20:11:47 GMT -5
Was at Portland's record breaking win #87 (5-1) tonight. Sea Dogs had only 4 hits with an HR and 2B by Coyle. The homerun was a shot into the left-center field screen and the double a line drive into the LF corner. Justin Haley pitched a good game 7 innings, 4 hits, no runs striking out a career tying 9 batters. He threw 90-91 with his FB topping at 93 in the 7th with a curve at 78 and a change in the low 80s that all generated swings and misses. Aaron Kurcz pitched the ninth striking out 2 while displaying a 95 MPH fastball. In 41 innings he has struck out 53 and given up only 29 hits. If he gets his control and command down, he might be a future bullpen arm.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 20:35:26 GMT -5
Aro done, still 0-0 after 6. 5IP 0R 3H 2BB 6K lowered his Salem ERA to 1.80. Looking at his career, he's had outstanding numbers at every stop including his peripherals.
Drive up 4-2 bottom 8th. Rider also added a HR.
Lowell lost 3-0 Reily with an excellent start as well. 5IP 2H 0R 0BB 4K
Salem swept, important games. Scored 3 in the top of the 7th. 3-0. Excellent pitching all day.
Greenville won 4-2.
Only game left is Boston improving their draft position.
Salem Red Sox ?@salemredsox 18m Salem will take on Myrtle Beach in the Southern Division Championship Series starting on Wednesday. Location still TBD.
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Post by mabrowndog on Aug 30, 2014 21:21:38 GMT -5
Was at Portland's record breaking win #87 (5-1) tonight. Sea Dogs had only 4 hits with an HR and 2B by Coyle. The homerun was a shot into the left-center field screen and the double a line drive into the LF corner. Justin Haley pitched a good game 7 innings, 4 hits, no runs striking out a career tying 9 batters. He threw 90-91 with his FB topping at 93 in the 7th with a curve at 78 and a change in the low 80s that all generated swings and misses. Aaron Kurcz pitched the ninth striking out 2 while displaying a 95 MPH fastball. In 41 innings he has struck out 53 and given up only 29 hits. If he gets his control and command down, he might be a future bullpen arm. Thanks for the breakdown. Sounds like Haley hurled a gem. Kurcz is one of those on-the-bubble guys for Rule 5 protection this winter. I've been as guilty as anyone of overemphasizing how "the Sox could lose player x in the draft" and I've been wrong far more often than right, but I really do believe that kid would be snatched up by a small-market team in a cocaine heartbeat. Boston has until November 20 to add him to the 40-man.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 21:43:13 GMT -5
I should think that the Red Sox would be far more likely to lose Kurcz (recovery year from TJ, he can and has hit 98 this year) than a player like Blair. It's a lot easier to carry a reliever on a 25 man than a catcher who isn't major league ready. Blair might be the better prospect in the grand scheme of things but Kurcz is the more likely to be lost in my opinion. Look at his K's/9 before the surgery, he was the prize for losing Theo not Carpenter.
Related, imo, for the same reasons, Hembree not Escobar will be the prize for Peavy.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 30, 2014 21:57:47 GMT -5
Usually, the harder you try to throw, the worse your command will be. The harder you try to throw, the more your mechanics break down. The harder you pitch, the farther from the spot the balls will go. I just love when people agree using different words as if in a disagreement.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 21:59:25 GMT -5
The harder you try to throw, the more your mechanics break down. The harder you pitch, the farther from the spot the balls will go. I just love when people agree using different words as if in a disagreement. An increase in effort correlates to a decrease in accuracy. I do want to add though that in Ranaudo's case, since he can hit 98, I don't see how a 1MPH difference is much of an effort change.
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Post by azblue on Aug 30, 2014 22:00:10 GMT -5
Renaudo had difficullty keeping his pitches fown in the strike zone in his last start.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 22:04:40 GMT -5
Renaudo had difficullty keeping his pitches down in the strike zone in his last start. BINGO
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 22:12:12 GMT -5
Sox just loosened up the 40 man crunch.
#RedSox today acquired INF/OF Jemile Weeks and INF Ivan De Jesus Jr. from Baltimore for INF/OF Kelly Johnson and 3B Michael Almanzar.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 30, 2014 22:12:19 GMT -5
Interesting trade, almanzar and Johnson to Baltimore for infielders. Cherrington does love to stick up on infielders.
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Post by dcloutier34 on Aug 30, 2014 22:37:14 GMT -5
Gibson does have a lot of speed as shown in his time here in Portland. As for stealing bags, couldn't agree more with thelavarnwayguy. Bad jumps, lack of the explosion needed in higher levels of minors (and MLB) to be a great base stealer.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 30, 2014 22:53:36 GMT -5
Aybar triples in a pair for the D-Sox in the b-8th, and they retake the lead 6-4. The Royals had Luis Yovera struck out for the last out of that inning, but he reached on a combo WP / E3. Aybar immediately made them pay. After blowing the big lead in the top of the 8th, capitalizing on the opponent error had to feel especially sweet. So, GCL is in the finals up 1-0, DSL clubs are in the league finals (and the DSL Spanish-language website story goes into great detail about both teams without mentioning the length of the series or the schedule), and both Portland and Salem are in the semis, with the SeaDogs having home-field advantage (hosting games 3-5). Meanwhile, it looks like the PawSox are the wild-card if they beat Rochester either tomorrow or Monday, and lose on a tiebreaker if they get swept (although if that happens, Buffalo could also grab the WC by sweeping Syracuse; for some reason, they've played one fewer game than usual).
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Post by mabrowndog on Aug 30, 2014 23:14:48 GMT -5
Sox just loosened up the 40 man crunch. #RedSox today acquired INF/OF Jemile Weeks and INF Ivan De Jesus Jr. from Baltimore for INF/OF Kelly Johnson and 3B Michael Almanzar. Actually, it doesn't loosen it at all. Johnson & Almanzar are due to be free agents. So is DeJesus, but Weeks is arb-eligible. AmFox posted elsewhere that he doesn't think Weeks figures into Boston's plans for next year, and I agree. But he *is* a retainable asset, if they so choose, and one that they didn't have prior to tonight.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2014 23:29:03 GMT -5
Yes but I was thinking that they would resign Almanzar and place him on the 40 man, he's been hitting well lately. Johnson I figured was gone. We've got a lot of utility infielders now and I'm pretty sure several will be let go, Herrera, for example but now we have 2 more options for the Sox to chose from.
Almanzar is a much better fit for the Orioles than the Red Sox.
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