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Post by nomar on Oct 26, 2014 20:34:25 GMT -5
I know this was mentioned in another thread, but definitely feel that it's deserving of one of its own.
This is horrendous. It was a privilege following his career and it's a tragedy the world didn't get to see the kid grow and flourish. RIP
I know it may not be as infamous of a tragedy, but this is this generation's Len Bias.
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Post by nhdave on Oct 26, 2014 20:38:24 GMT -5
yes, absolutely awful news.
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Post by iakovos11 on Oct 26, 2014 21:05:32 GMT -5
Circumstances are far far different, but Len Bias came to mind for me, too.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 26, 2014 21:26:08 GMT -5
Beyond sad. Terrible news. Kid had a very bright future. Best wishes to the family.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Oct 26, 2014 21:27:17 GMT -5
Wow, how horrible. As a member of a family that loved and lost a young person, I know his family's pain and hate to think of anyone having to go through it.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2014 21:49:43 GMT -5
Such horrible news. Extremely sad. He had such a promising career ahead of him and he was so very young. What's great about baseball is you can immerse yourself in it and forget all the terrible things in life that happen for a little while, but it's times like this you remember than even baseball isn't insulated from such sad realities.
I started watching baseball in 1980, a year after Thurman Munson died in a plane crash and two years after Lyman Bostock was murdered. I don't remember reading about baseball lives cut short much that decade, but in the past few decades it seems to happen way too often. This reminds me a little of Nick Adenhart who won a ballgame with an excellent pitching performance and was gone just a few short hours later.
RIP Oscar Taveras
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 26, 2014 22:34:18 GMT -5
Please send help to Carlos Martinez place. He is not right.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 26, 2014 23:02:45 GMT -5
Value the time you have. Take care in what you do. Drive safe. I don't know what else to say.
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Post by jrffam05 on Oct 27, 2014 9:03:22 GMT -5
Awful to hear. RIP.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 27, 2014 9:47:21 GMT -5
I'm shocked and saddened.
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Post by cologneredsox on Oct 27, 2014 11:11:47 GMT -5
Still makes me feel awful. Just so completely not understandeble... RIP
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Post by templeusox on Oct 27, 2014 12:23:53 GMT -5
I interviewed Taveras at the rookie symposium earlier this year. Shortly after he entered our green screen room, I realized he did not understand what he had agreed to. He was instantly struck with the fear of conducting an all-English interview on camera. Generally at these events Spanish-speaking players would have an interpreter accompany them, but he decided to go forth with the interview despite his shaky English. After it ended, his nerves turned into pride. He started beaming because he conducted the whole on-camera interview by himself. He effusively shook my hand and thanked me over and over again.
So throughout his ups and downs this year, that was my one memory of him. A talented athlete for sure, but so much more. What a sad day.
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 12, 2014 18:52:13 GMT -5
Jeff Passan @jeffpassan · 1m 1 minute ago Ugh. Oscar Taveras was driving drunk at the time of his fatal crash. Five times legal BAC, which I believe is .05. yhoo.it/1zkS3po SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Dominican officials say St. Louis Cardinals rookie outfielder Oscar Taveras was drunk at the time of his fatal car crash last month. Tessie Sanchez, a spokeswoman for the attorney general's office in the Dominican Republic, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that toxicology reports showed Taveras had a blood-alcohol level five times the legal limit when he lost control of his car Oct. 26 on a highway in Puerto Plata. She says the 22-year-old Taveras was ''legally intoxicated when he crashed.''Taveras was among the majors' top prospects. He hit .239 with three homers and 22 RBIs in 80 games this year. Taveras' 18-year-old girlfriend was in the car and also died. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 12, 2014 19:58:59 GMT -5
I truly hope some good comes of this.
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 13, 2014 22:55:42 GMT -5
MLB does not take drunk driving seriously enough. When Tony LaRussa fell asleep drunk behind the wheel it was a big joke. Well now drunk driving has taken a bright future star. It's no joke.
MLB needs to educate players on what can happen if you get behind the wheel drunk. Let them meet someone who was impacted by this.
No more alcholol in the clubhouse AND severe penalties for coaches players and other personnel who do this.
I hope Drake Britton and Jon Denny realize how lucky they are and that the next MLB player that still thinks they can drive after a few beers remembers Oscar Tavares and his bright future that never will be.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 13, 2014 22:59:06 GMT -5
MLB needs to educate players on what can happen if you get behind the wheel drunk. Let them meet someone who was impacted by this. You don't think Tavarez knew what could happen when driving while wasted? |
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 13, 2014 23:22:25 GMT -5
MLB needs to educate players on what can happen if you get behind the wheel drunk. Let them meet someone who was impacted by this. No more alcholol in the clubhouse AND severe penalties for coaches players and other personnel who do this. Aside from the fact that the MLB has absolutely no power educating players on pretty much anything, if you're going to prohibit anything it should be the driving part, not the drinking part. It even has a head start, in the sense that 92,4% of the ball players don't drive after a game. |
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 14, 2014 1:03:58 GMT -5
MLB needs to educate players on what can happen if you get behind the wheel drunk. Let them meet someone who was impacted by this. No more alcholol in the clubhouse AND severe penalties for coaches players and other personnel who do this. Aside from the fact that the MLB has absolutely no power educating players on pretty much anything, if you're going to prohibit anything it should be the driving part, not the drinking part. It even has a head start, in the sense that 92,4% of the ball players don't drive after a game. Seriously? |
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 14, 2014 1:09:00 GMT -5
MLB needs to educate players on what can happen if you get behind the wheel drunk. Let them meet someone who was impacted by this. You don't think Tavarez knew what could happen when driving while wasted? He obviously didn't take it serously.....and why should he? MLB obviously doesn't. But seriously......are people really against attempting to curb drunk driving in MLB? |
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Post by iakovos11 on Nov 14, 2014 7:12:05 GMT -5
I think it's a great goal.
But did you really say MLB should ban all alcohol in the clubhouse/locker room? Aside from many other obvious issues with this, how exactly would it have prevented Oscar Tavaras from getting the wheel at twice the legal limit in the offseason in the D.R.?
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 14, 2014 8:01:25 GMT -5
I think it's a great goal. But did you really say MLB should ban all alcohol in the clubhouse/locker room? Aside from many other obvious issues with this, how exactly would it have prevented Oscar Tavaras from getting the wheel at twice the legal limit in the offseason in the D.R.? It may not have prevented this particular tragedy. However part of the problem is that MLB has created a culture where driving drunk isn't considered that big a deal. Part of that is serving alchohol to players after games and just before they are about to drive home. Imagine if your work were to give everyone all the free beer they wanted just before quitting time. What message does that send? All of the sports leagues need to send the message that drinking and driving is unacceptable. This message needs to be loud and clear to all players, especially the younger ones. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 14, 2014 8:18:52 GMT -5
Aside from the fact that the MLB has absolutely no power educating players on pretty much anything, if you're going to prohibit anything it should be the driving part, not the drinking part. It even has a head start, in the sense that 92,4% of the ball players don't drive after a game. Seriously? Of course seriously. If Taveras doesn't get in his car and instead go at the beach and stare at the sun until he's sober again, he would still be alive and people would have no subject to go on patronizing rants on a message board. People are going to drink, you're not going to win this one. The bad part is the driving one (while drunk, in case that somehow isn't clear). |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 14, 2014 9:28:18 GMT -5
Aside from the fact that the MLB has absolutely no power educating players on pretty much anything, if you're going to prohibit anything it should be the driving part, not the drinking part. It even has a head start, in the sense that 92,4% of the ball players don't drive after a game. Seriously? If he didn't take it seriously, knowing it could kill him, then there's only so much that can be done. Of course educating people can help but it's not MLBs responsibility to do so. People love to blame the "leagues" when one of their players steps out of line. Tavares was a great talent and it's unfortunate what he did to himself but I don't think MLB should be doing anything different as a result. I don't think they should hide it or gloss it over it either. If they want to do something they should highlight the fact he threw his great life away with a dumb choice. Instead I am sure they and the Cardinals will "pay tribute" to him which is probably a mistake. But it's socially acceptable and politically correct. |
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Post by onbase on Nov 14, 2014 9:47:47 GMT -5
Oscar Tavares committed murder. i realize the thread went up before the facts were in, but I don't wish him peace; at best he has a lot of work to do in his next incarnation. I do hope his girlfriend's family has emotional support.
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Post by rafael on Nov 14, 2014 10:22:13 GMT -5
The problem isn't drinking, the problem is being stupid enough to drive while drunk.
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