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2014-15 Offseason Non-Sox thread
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 19, 2014 15:36:23 GMT -5
I can't keep track, but I think the Padres have traded half of their top 20 prospects in the last week. Stealing from something I saw Mike Ferrin retweet, Johnny Manziel might now be on their top 10 prospect list.
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Post by danr on Dec 19, 2014 15:54:20 GMT -5
San Diego reminds of the early days of on-line fantasy baseball. I was in a Prodigy (remember Prodigy?)league for three years, and, at first, we traded like crazy. I think I turned over my entire roster a couple of times the first year. It was fun, but the technology, compared to today, was very primitive and slow.
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Post by rafael on Dec 19, 2014 16:45:17 GMT -5
San Diego reminds of the early days of on-line fantasy baseball. I was in a Prodigy (remember Prodigy?)league for three years, and, at first, we traded like crazy. I think I turned over my entire roster a couple of times the first year. It was fun, but the technology, compared to today, was very primitive and slow. It also reminded me about my dynasty mode on MLB The Show. I used to do things like trade Napoli + throw-ins for Adrian Gonzalez and flip Adrian Gonzalez + throw-ins for Mike Trout in the same day. It was totally unrealistic and funny.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Dec 19, 2014 17:00:43 GMT -5
Isn't Maybin still on the Padres? Wonder if they would bet on a bounce-back in CF, move Alonso for more assets, and shift Kemp to 1B? For arthritic knees, would 1B or OF be worse? (I'm guessing that Kemp could quickly become a better 1B than he is an OF) Only on a team that you don't like and hope that they would acquire.. As a marlins fan? It was a joyous occasion to finally see them be-rid of him, though I also like to watch the Padres some late nights and NOT a good decision by them (to me) for them to sign him to that absurd 5y deal when his 1st successful season after all the previous failures weren't even all that spectacular, other than the SB total.
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Post by ramireja on Dec 19, 2014 17:22:17 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on Dec 19, 2014 17:36:59 GMT -5
Good move by the Yankees, shed some payroll and got what should be a solid young starter. Makes me sick.
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 19, 2014 18:27:05 GMT -5
Good move by the Yankees, shed some payroll and got what should be a solid young starter. Makes me sick. Agreed. The Yankees seem to be finally smartening up...getting young guys with upside. The other pitcher they got was another hard thrower I believe. It looks like they are going with power arms from starters through relief. I think that will be the next wave and they may be paddling ahead of it.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 19, 2014 18:36:09 GMT -5
Maury Brown ?@bizballmaury 55m55 minutes ago TOP FINAL #MLB PAYROLL NUMBERS: Dodgers $277,737,082; Yankees $225,653,896; Tigers$187,003,795; Phillies $185,965,235; Red Sox $185,922,329
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Post by klostrophobic on Dec 19, 2014 19:45:21 GMT -5
Could you take the Phillies roster and assets, and with an additional 90 million, produce a team that is as good as the Dodgers?
Just for laziness, just add Lester, Shields, Ramirez, Sandoval and Robertson. Are you as good as the Dodgers?
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 19, 2014 20:00:04 GMT -5
Could you take the Phillies roster and assets, and with an additional 90 million, produce a team that is as good as the Dodgers? Just for laziness, just add Lester, Shields, Ramirez, Sandoval and Robertson. Are you as good as the Dodgers? No, but if they added Lester, Sandoval, Ramirez, LaRoche, and Cruz then they'd at least be a much better team. Their production from the corners was just pathetic.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 20, 2014 3:45:10 GMT -5
James Wagner ?@jameswagnerwp 4h4 hours ago Trea Turner's agent is unhappy the prospect will be in limbo until June after Nats’ trade; considering a grievance. wapo.st/1HdhFak Agent has a point and this could get interesting. There is precedent for a PTBNL to be 'loaned' to the team ahead but that wasn't a minor league player. In truth, this violates the principle of the one year rule.
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 20, 2014 11:17:07 GMT -5
James Wagner ?@jameswagnerwp 4h4 hours ago Trea Turner's agent is unhappy the prospect will be in limbo until June after Nats’ trade; considering a grievance. wapo.st/1HdhFak Agent has a point and this could get interesting. There is precedent for a PTBNL to be 'loaned' to the team ahead but that wasn't a minor league player. In truth, this violates the principle of the one year rule. MLB and/or the team didn't name him as Rizzo's quote in the article showed but they are picking from a list. Maybe he should be suing the media who claimed it was him from a rumor. Probably got a case there. Not to be morbid ... but if he got killed in say May would the trade be canceled? Or would they be getting another player from a rumored list or not?
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Post by danr on Dec 20, 2014 13:30:49 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 20, 2014 13:49:52 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 20, 2014 17:00:12 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 21, 2014 2:00:14 GMT -5
Good luck Ruben... Phillies GM told Ryan Howard they’d be better off “not with him but without him”D.J. Short Dec 20, 2014, 1:30 PM EST With the Phillies in the middle of a rebuilding effort, they are facing some tough (and long overdue) truths with their veteran players. After officially dealing shortstop Jimmy Rollins to the Dodgers, Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro, Jr. made an appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia yesterday and was pretty blunt about how the club feels about the future of longtime first baseman Ryan Howard. Matt Lombardo of NJ Advance Media has this quote from Amaro’s interview: “We’ve talked to Ryan,” Amaro said in an interview with 97.5 The Fanatic’s Mike Missanelli on Friday afternoon. “And I told him that in our situation it would probably bode better for the organization not with him but without him. With that said if he’s with us, then we’ll work around him. We’ll hope he puts up the kind of numbers that we hope he can and we’ll see where it goes from there.” As we have said many times in this space before, moving Howard is no easy task. He turned 35 in November and is owed $60 million through 2016. The Phillies would likely have to cover most of his remaining salary in order to get a deal done, but that still leaves a limited number of teams would could be in the market for a declining DH-type player. Howard amassed 23 home runs and 93 RBI last season, which are appealing numbers on the surface, but he hit just .223 and his .690 OPS was 119th among 146 qualified hitters in MLB. He has a .720 OPS (and a 98 OPS+) over the past three seasons. While the Phillies want to turn the page, Amaro has no plans to release Howard if they can’t find a trade partner. hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/20/phillies-gm-told-ryan-howard-theyd-be-better-off-not-with-him-but-without-him/
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Post by bluechip on Dec 21, 2014 8:17:57 GMT -5
Good luck Ruben... Phillies GM told Ryan Howard they’d be better off “not with him but without him”D.J. Short Dec 20, 2014, 1:30 PM EST With the Phillies in the middle of a rebuilding effort, they are facing some tough (and long overdue) truths with their veteran players. After officially dealing shortstop Jimmy Rollins to the Dodgers, Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro, Jr. made an appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia yesterday and was pretty blunt about how the club feels about the future of longtime first baseman Ryan Howard. Matt Lombardo of NJ Advance Media has this quote from Amaro’s interview: “We’ve talked to Ryan,” Amaro said in an interview with 97.5 The Fanatic’s Mike Missanelli on Friday afternoon. “And I told him that in our situation it would probably bode better for the organization not with him but without him. With that said if he’s with us, then we’ll work around him. We’ll hope he puts up the kind of numbers that we hope he can and we’ll see where it goes from there.” As we have said many times in this space before, moving Howard is no easy task. He turned 35 in November and is owed $60 million through 2016. The Phillies would likely have to cover most of his remaining salary in order to get a deal done, but that still leaves a limited number of teams would could be in the market for a declining DH-type player. Howard amassed 23 home runs and 93 RBI last season, which are appealing numbers on the surface, but he hit just .223 and his .690 OPS was 119th among 146 qualified hitters in MLB. He has a .720 OPS (and a 98 OPS+) over the past three seasons. While the Phillies want to turn the page, Amaro has no plans to release Howard if they can’t find a trade partner. hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/20/phillies-gm-told-ryan-howard-theyd-be-better-off-not-with-him-but-without-him/The irony is that the Phillies would be better off without Ruben Amaro (you know, the guy who gave Howard that contract).
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 21, 2014 11:37:03 GMT -5
Seriously, how is Amaro not fired yet?
You can't let that guy rebuild that team that he so terribly messed up.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 21, 2014 14:00:31 GMT -5
This is the sort of politicking that turns my stomach. Yes the team would be better off without that contract around their neck. Who gave him that deal? It's as if anything from a few years back never happened at all. Did he take any responsibility for failing to understand Howard's weaknesses? For having negotiated a contract that many people at the time, including lots of folks on this board, understood to be insanely bad?
To have Amaro still acting as the voice of the organization is stunning. How could you not be livid if you're a Phillies fan?
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Post by mobaz on Dec 21, 2014 15:14:10 GMT -5
Ryan Howard for A-Rod. Yankees get to be a real team instead of a sideshow for the third year in a row, Phillies get nearly the same contract for a likely more servicable player. Awful trade for both sides, but at least it's a different awful.
Add: Seriously though, how can the Yankees go into ST with Arod on the team. They need to start playing baseball and stop dealing with yearlong retirement tours or caught cheater chatter. Altough as a Sox fan I hope they stay a sideshow.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 21, 2014 15:35:11 GMT -5
This is the sort of politicking that turns my stomach. Yes the team would be better off without that contract around their neck. Who gave him that deal? It's as if anything from a few years back never happened at all. Did he take any responsibility for failing to understand Howard's weaknesses? For having negotiated a contract that many people at the time, including lots of folks on this board, understood to be insanely bad? To have Amaro still acting as the voice of the organization is stunning. How could you not be livid if you're a Phillies fan?I think livid is their default setting regardless.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 21, 2014 18:35:31 GMT -5
I think livid is their default setting regardless. That's funny considering that Red Sox fans are routinely described as "apoplectic." There's a key difference between our anger and their anger though. Theirs is more of a physical thing whereas ours is more of a metaphysical thing. Your typical Phillies fan simply wants to pull out a pair of brass knuckles and mercilessly beat the crap out of his team's general manager and/or manager. No prelude. No denouement. Just one violent manifestation of indignation will suffice. Things get a little more complicated in Red Sox Nation. Maybe it's because we tend to be more cerebral. Whatever the cause, what your typical Red Sox fan really wants is to invent and utilize a time machine to surf the fourth dimension, re-engineer his career path and alter his destiny to what it rightfully was supposed to be all along - so that he, and not some clearly lesser qualified individual, ends up being his team's general manager and/or manager.
That gloriously makes no sense at all. Very well done man.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 21, 2014 21:55:52 GMT -5
Kudos to the Yankees: New York Yankees ?@yankees 2h2 hours ago George Steinbrenner's Silver Shield Foundation to pay for education of slain NYPD officer's children: atmlb.com/1AvVgok
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 22, 2014 5:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 22, 2014 12:11:09 GMT -5
There is no way that Phil Hughes is as good as he was last year, right? A 3 year extension 2 years in advance seems like something I wouldn't even consider for him. What do I know though? It'll probably either be the best contract ever or a terrible one before he even gets to the extension starting.
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