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Post by goldenmonkey34 on Apr 26, 2015 13:40:51 GMT -5
Absolutely sick of this. This rotation is a disgrace. Just the fact that it's an achievement of one of our starters makes it 6 innings. I'm tired of having to turn off the tv after a couple innings because our starter explodes.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 26, 2015 13:41:47 GMT -5
Good job, Ben. You traded for the pitcher who can't throw strikes. Also gave him a multi year deal. Oh by the way, Rubby went 7 IP 8 K 0 BB yesterday.
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Post by pedey on Apr 26, 2015 13:43:07 GMT -5
I hated the Miley trade the second it went through. I honestly think it was to get rid of the pitching log-jam in the upper minors. Webster and RDLR have much more upside than Miley has. The trade just never made sense to me. I wish we had Rubby's 9.0/1.8 K/BB ratio. Maybe Ben's worst trade. Did he think a 4.30 ERA in the NL West would translate well to the AL East?
EDIT: I want to see one (or more) of Barnes, Rodriguez, Owens, Johnson, or Wright to get a shot at starting soon. The Sox let John Lackey pitch to a 6+ ERA for the entire season in 2011. Why? Because they had no better options. They have better options now that are a phone call away.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 26, 2015 13:47:54 GMT -5
Did he think a 4.30 ERA in the NL West would translate well to the AL East? I hope Ben never thinks about ERA at all. I certainly don't. Oh by the way, if the bullpen is overworked, the only one to blame is Farrell. Hooking Miley in that situation is ridiculous.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 26, 2015 13:54:45 GMT -5
Yeah, today's line up just seems astronomically dumb. We all know Nava's stat line against RHP and Ortiz is Ortiz. Allen Craig just looks completely cooked - in pretty much all facets of the game. Well, what are your options with Craig? You either send him down or hope to hell you can get something for him. At this point you may have to send him down and see if he can re-generate some buzz...but he sure looks like a liability in the field and at the plate against a decent pitcher with command.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 26, 2015 13:55:32 GMT -5
Did he think a 4.30 ERA in the NL West would translate well to the AL East? I hope Ben never thinks about ERA at all. I certainly don't. Oh by the way, if the bullpen is overworked, the only one to blame is Farrell. Hooking Miley in that situation is ridiculous. Yeah not only that but Miley is our fifth starter. Fifth starters get hammered and are replaceable. What is more concerning to me is Farrell's managing.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 26, 2015 13:57:12 GMT -5
Yeah, today's line up just seems astronomically dumb. We all know Nava's stat line against RHP and Ortiz is Ortiz. Allen Craig just looks completely cooked - in pretty much all facets of the game. Well, what are your options with Craig? You either send him down... Yes please.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 26, 2015 14:03:51 GMT -5
What would happen if the Red Sox batters faced the Red Sox pitchers?
This is a good game to turn off.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 26, 2015 14:05:05 GMT -5
I'm not giving up on Uehara yet and am surprised so many of you are doing so. He has a 6:0 K/BB in 4.1 IP, a 1.50 xFIP, and a 1.33 SIERA. Yes, the walk-off home run was on a hanger, but one hanging splitter isn't enough to get me to abandon ship. Jones' triple was on a good pitch down and away and was mostly the result of bad defense from Craig, for instance. Yes, Uehara's fastball velo is down, but it's not like he was throwing 95 before, and dropping from 89 to 87 is not a career-ender-- guys like Trevor Hoffman and Sergio Romo have had sustained success in that velo range by complementing a middling fastball with an elite secondary pitch. He'll have to start throwing the fastball more as a change-of-pace to get guys from sitting on the splitter, but unless he's totally lost the high spin rate and the command of it that made it such a good pitch even at 89 (which, to be fair, is a possibility), I think he'll be fine. He'll never be 2013 Uehara again, but I have little doubt that he's still one of the two or three best relievers in the bullpen and certainly capable of being a very good closer. I think that Koji is cooked. His FB is 85 not 89 or even 87 now. Beyond the velocity is that he now appears to have little "life" on the FB. IMO he will get by on guile and command if at all. To me a guy who throws a slow split as 90% of his arsenal is similar to a knuckleballer.....one poorly thrown or located one ( tough pitches to command) and touch 'em all. I like Tazawa (with adequate rest), maybe Ogando (with rest) and maybe Ross. Barnes may be a help but if we want to contend this year, I think we will need to jettison a good slug of the future....maybe a Devers, Margot...But, I would rather ride it out.
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Post by dcsoxfan on Apr 26, 2015 14:05:34 GMT -5
Right now the hitting is a bigger problem than the pitching. The pitching has put them in a position to win all but one series this year. Other than Ramirez, is anybody in this lineup hitting?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 26, 2015 14:06:49 GMT -5
Right now the hitting is a bigger problem than the pitching. The pitching has put them in a position to win all but one series this year. Other than Ramirez, is anybody in this lineup hitting? Holt. And I'm sorry you picked this game to go to.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 26, 2015 14:09:18 GMT -5
We have the worst average with RISP. Our pitching means squat if our offense can't hit
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 26, 2015 14:09:20 GMT -5
Good job, Ben. You traded for the pitcher who can't throw strikes. Also gave him a multi year deal. Oh by the way, Rubby went 7 IP 8 K 0 BB yesterday. Now I'm calling a Lavarnway grand slam today. edit - every single ground ball and popup is a hit.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 26, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5
April.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 26, 2015 14:22:11 GMT -5
We'd be overracting a bit less if Craig and Uehara hadn't melted down last night I think. Its 10-0 and Im eyeing the exits here in baltimore... Im almost starting to root for Craig to make outs so he plays his way off the team.
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 26, 2015 14:24:30 GMT -5
They had a chance to win the Tampa series and this series. I hope Farrell takes games more serious. You can't have a 5-1 lead and let it get away in the Tampa series and then yesterday come back and blow the game by the closer. This stuff comes back to haunt you.
I never understood giving Koji two years 9 per. 40 years old and he struggled last year. I had no opinion on M iley because I was not familiar with him. But he gives you one good and one terrible game.
That agreesive running hurt them yesterday. I don't know about Farrell . By the way I don't think getting Hamels is the answer. I wish they would give the young pitchers more chances. Workman is hurt but it might be time to move a couple of bullpen guys. Are they gonna give Barnes a chance?
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Post by jmei on Apr 26, 2015 14:25:45 GMT -5
I think that Koji is cooked. His FB is 85 not 89 or even 87 now. Beyond the velocity is that he now appears to have little "life" on the FB. IMO he will get by on guile and command if at all. To me a guy who throws a slow split as 90% of his arsenal is similar to a knuckleballer.....one poorly thrown or located one ( tough pitches to command) and touch 'em all. This is factually incorrect, both over the course of the season and specific to last night. Per Brooks Baseball, his fastball also has just as much movement (both vertical and horizontal) as his career marks. Uehara has always gotten by on guile and command (and, for that matter, always had home run issues). If he continues to walk noone and get a ton of swings-and-misses, he'll be fine.
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 26, 2015 14:30:07 GMT -5
One more thing keep up the good work Rodriguez and Johnson. I hope Noe Ramirez keeps maturing.
This is the only way the Sox can turn it around and do it like the Cardinals . Bring up young talented pitchers that the league has no book on yet and hopefully we have something. Is Miley out of shape? Just a thought.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 26, 2015 14:38:23 GMT -5
I mean, nevermind the pitching, we are getting shut out by Bud F. Norris in a pretty hitter-friendly park.
I asked this last season, and I will ask again. I am assured that there are more important aspects to a manager's job than in-game strategy, at which Farrell is horrible. What are these more important aspects and how can anyone think Farrell is any good at them?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 26, 2015 14:44:56 GMT -5
Good job, Ben. You traded for the pitcher who can't throw strikes. Also gave him a multi year deal. Oh by the way, Rubby went 7 IP 8 K 0 BB yesterday.As much as I want to warn against overreacting to three weeks of baseball, I do think the performance of ex-Red Sox prospects across the league is going to be interesting to watch this year. There has been a bit of a theme developing of the Red Sox not being able to transition prospect talent to the major leagues successfully, and if we start seeing good performances out of players like RDLR/Middlebrooks and/or continued struggles from Bogearts/Betts/etc, this could actually become a thing worth worrying about.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 26, 2015 14:45:47 GMT -5
I mean, nevermind the pitching, we are getting shut out by Bud F. Norris in a pretty hitter-friendly park. I asked this last season, and I will ask again. I am assured that there are more important aspects to a manager's job than in-game strategy, at which Farrell is horrible. What are these more important aspects and how can anyone think Farrell is any good at them? Helping to transition young talent to the major leagues...
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 26, 2015 14:53:29 GMT -5
Speaking of ex-Sox prospects... Hanley says hello to Jason Garcia.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 26, 2015 15:09:04 GMT -5
I can see the future. Tomorrow, Hembree is getting optioned and Layne recalled.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 26, 2015 15:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 26, 2015 15:11:08 GMT -5
This is a perfect spot to pitch Breslow.
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