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Post by jmei on Jun 25, 2015 11:49:48 GMT -5
Today's lineup: Betts CF, Holt 2B, Bogaerts SS, Ortiz DH, Sandoval 3B, Napoli 1B, De Aza LF, Swihart C, Bradley RF
Answers one question-- looks like it'll be Betts CF and Bradley RF. Does not answer another question-- whether De Aza will play ahead of Bradley in RF.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 25, 2015 11:55:11 GMT -5
Kelly to AAA and Masterson to the starting rotation is a horrible move. The Masterson part might be horrible, but count me as one guy who likes Kelly going to AAA. He needs it, from a production and humility perspective. I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't happen.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 25, 2015 12:13:36 GMT -5
Kelly to AAA and Masterson to the starting rotation is a horrible move. The Masterson part might be horrible, but count me as one guy who likes Kelly going to AAA. He needs it, from a production and humility perspective. Agreed that this needed to happen. He has got to get consistent or he will be a bullpen arm period. I'm not a fan of Masterson getting his start (I want to bring up Johnson), but I guess with respect to a pecking order you have to give another try. BUT hopefully if he does poorly, they wake up and bring Brian Johnson up.
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Post by atzar on Jun 25, 2015 12:20:12 GMT -5
I'm glad Bradley's in the lineup. That said: man, is that a scary 6-9 in the batting order. Scary because it may actually be the best we can put together until guys start returning from injuries.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2015 12:48:42 GMT -5
Career ERA and FIP are almost exactly the same (ERA a little lower) so I wouldn't read into that too much. This is the second consecutive year that it hasn't been though. Don't forget about the new curse.
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 25, 2015 12:50:04 GMT -5
Xander hitting 3rd just feels so right.
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Post by soxloom2016 on Jun 25, 2015 12:52:03 GMT -5
Hanley would have fell over dead if he ran into the wall like Pearce just did.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2015 12:56:45 GMT -5
Once again. People are forgetting thus could be a spot start. Unless you want Johnson on three days They should have pulled Johnson last night. It's not like this was unexpected. Johnson and Wright are much better options than Masterson.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 25, 2015 12:58:58 GMT -5
Miguel Gonzales the accomplished hypnotist returns.
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Post by jmei on Jun 25, 2015 13:00:05 GMT -5
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Post by soxloom2016 on Jun 25, 2015 13:05:32 GMT -5
^ya that was a fluke, Hanley gets banged up playing rock, paper, scissor.
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Post by jmei on Jun 25, 2015 13:05:47 GMT -5
I'm glad Bradley's in the lineup. That said: man, is that a scary 6-9 in the batting order. Scary because it may actually be the best we can put together until guys start returning from injuries.
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Post by jmei on Jun 25, 2015 13:06:58 GMT -5
^ya that was a fluke, Hanley gets banged up playing rock, paper, scissor. He got banged up running into a wall and getting hit in the hand by a scalded line drive.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 25, 2015 13:07:05 GMT -5
I'm glad Bradley's in the lineup. That said: man, is that a scary 6-9 in the batting order. Scary because it may actually be the best we can put together until guys start returning from injuries. Nice reverse jinx!
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 25, 2015 13:07:36 GMT -5
I don't see what optioning Kelly does. Unless there is something very specific for him to work on, Triple-A does him no good. If they think he's good enough to be a major league starter, he should be in the rotation. If they don't, then he should be getting a shot in the MLB bullpen, where they could really use another high-leverage arm.
Masterson getting a spot start instead of Kelly getting one more (if that's all this is) doesn't bother me. Keeping Kelly in the rotation when they know they are going to drop him doesn't make any sense. If Masterson is being brought back as the swing man, and Sunday just happens to be on a swing where they need a sixth starter okay. Sort of annoying but whatever. If it's a permanent move back to the rotation, then I'm against that.
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Post by soxloom2016 on Jun 25, 2015 13:08:36 GMT -5
And sliding into home, and hitting the ball off his knee and just running in general.
Are you really defending how fragile the guy is?
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 25, 2015 13:09:44 GMT -5
And sliding into home, and hitting the ball off his knee and just running in general. Are you really defending how fragile the guy is? This is the seventh game he's missed.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 25, 2015 13:11:08 GMT -5
Playing JBJ in right field is kind of ridiculous, so I fully expect John Farrell to do it. Care to explain? I think it's a perfectly fine move. I don't think Betts CF/Bradley RF is much worse production-wise than Bradley CF/Betts RF, and the couple runs you'd maybe lose are offset by the fact that, since Betts projects to be a first-division starter but is new to CF, you want him getting as many reps in CF as possible; conversely, because Bradley might be a 4th outfielder on a good team, you want him getting reps in the outfield corners. On the JBJ side: I don't think he profiles very well as a 4th outfielder - you can't use him to negate LOOGYs and he's not a great pinch runner. I still believe he can be a starter in CF though (or at least the long side of a platoon). Plus, he already has almost 200 IP in the corners in the majors and several more in Pawtucket, I challenge you to show me one play where you can honestly say he would have gotten a better result if only he had more experience there. On the Betts side: I believe the need for pampering professional baseball players is way overstated. Everyone's favourite example is of course Bogaerts moving to 3B in 2014 and his subsequent struggles at the plate. It's a great story but it doesn't stand up well to scrutiny - objectively speaking, the most likely explanation for his struggles at the plate just then is "coincidence". As for that hurting his development at his original position of shortstop ... well come on, you've seen him play SS this year. I'm calling bull**** on the theory that playing another position for a while does any sort of irreversible harm. And it's not like Betts has been struggling Hanley-style to the point where you say "wow, he really needs all the reps he can get." In fact, if it were up to me, Betts would be playing 2B today.
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Post by atzar on Jun 25, 2015 13:11:21 GMT -5
I'm glad Bradley's in the lineup. That said: man, is that a scary 6-9 in the batting order. Scary because it may actually be the best we can put together until guys start returning from injuries. This is why I love and hate baseball at the same time.
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Post by soxloom2016 on Jun 25, 2015 13:15:09 GMT -5
And sliding into home, and hitting the ball off his knee and just running in general. Are you really defending how fragile the guy is? This is the seventh game he's missed. And tomorrow will be the 8th. Not sure why the defensiveness off such a sarcastic comment. Yall must be watching the Sox games where Hanley doesnt get shaken up, every time he slides into a base. What channel are those games on?
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Post by Smittyw on Jun 25, 2015 13:15:21 GMT -5
Man, Eduardo is dealing. I hope those 20 innings of Andrew Miller were worth it, Baltimore.
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Post by nomar on Jun 25, 2015 13:17:01 GMT -5
Man, Eduardo is dealing. I hope those 20 innings of Andrew Miller were worth it, Baltimore. Stud
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 25, 2015 13:20:31 GMT -5
Does Marrero have any experience outside of SS?
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Post by jmei on Jun 25, 2015 13:21:15 GMT -5
This is the seventh game he's missed. And tomorrow will be the 8th. Not sure why the defensiveness off such a sarcastic comment. Yall must be watching the Sox games where Hanley doesnt get shaken up, every time he slides into a base. What channel are those games on? The channels that show that he has the fourth-most plate appearances on the team this year.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2015 13:21:22 GMT -5
Care to explain? I think it's a perfectly fine move. I don't think Betts CF/Bradley RF is much worse production-wise than Bradley CF/Betts RF, and the couple runs you'd maybe lose are offset by the fact that, since Betts projects to be a first-division starter but is new to CF, you want him getting as many reps in CF as possible; conversely, because Bradley might be a 4th outfielder on a good team, you want him getting reps in the outfield corners. On the JBJ side: I don't think he profiles very well as a 4th outfielder - you can't use him to negate LOOGYs and he's not a great pinch runner. I still believe he can be a starter in CF though (or at least the long side of a platoon). Plus, he already has almost 200 IP in the corners in the majors and several more in Pawtucket, I challenge you to show me one play where you can honestly say he would have gotten a better result if only he had more experience there. On the Betts side: I believe the need for pampering professional baseball players is way overstated. Everyone's favourite example is of course Bogaerts moving to 3B in 2014 and his subsequent struggles at the plate. It's a great story but it doesn't stand up well to scrutiny - objectively speaking, the most likely explanation for his struggles at the plate just then is "coincidence". As for that hurting his development at his original position of shortstop ... well come on, you've seen him play SS this year. I'm calling bull**** on the theory that playing another position for a while does any sort of irreversible harm. And it's not like Betts has been struggling Hanley-style to the point where you say "wow, he really needs all the reps he can get." In fact, if it were up to me, Betts would be playing 2B today. The main reason JBJ should be in center is that there are more balls hit there and he's a better CF and I don't think it's close. www.fangraphs.com/blogs/does-outfield-alignment-actually-matter/Balls in the air: Left: 53,054 – 29% Center: 78,460 – 43% Right: 52,823 – 29% CF gets almost 50% more fly balls.
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