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6/23 ML Gameday Thread: Single A All Star Games
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jun 22, 2015 21:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by SALNotes on Jun 23, 2015 7:16:41 GMT -5
I'll be watching the SAL all star game tonight in Asheville, can't wait. the Drive have 7 players on the Southern squad. Devers, Guerra, Procyshen, and Miller are starters.
Dubon, Alcantara, and one other pitcher replacing Kopeck i can't remember who. Also Ben Moore was originally on the roster but isn't playing.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 23, 2015 8:05:08 GMT -5
Making plans to head to the Fort for July 4 weekend.. They are home 7/4 and 7/6. Wife to the beach and my son and myself to the games on Saturday and then Monday. Espinoza may not be there, but hoping more of the newer draftees arrive.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 23, 2015 8:47:44 GMT -5
The SAL All-Star Game aka The Greenville Drive Take On The World.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 9:02:44 GMT -5
I'll be watching the SAL all star game tonight in Asheville, can't wait. the Drive have 7 players on the Southern squad. Devers, Guerra, Procyshen, and Miller are starters. Dubon, Alcantara, and one other pitcher replacing Kopeck i can't remember who. Also Ben Moore was originally on the roster but isn't playing. Moore had knee surgery and is probably done for the year.
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 23, 2015 10:20:14 GMT -5
Gerson Bautista going in the GCL
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jun 23, 2015 13:14:28 GMT -5
I'll be watching the SAL all star game tonight in Asheville, can't wait. the Drive have 7 players on the Southern squad. Devers, Guerra, Procyshen, and Miller are starters. Dubon, Alcantara, and one other pitcher replacing Kopeck i can't remember who. Also Ben Moore was originally on the roster but isn't playing. Just read this from local Greenville newspaper announcing Kopech's withdrawal from the game which gives no concrete reason as it states, "No reason was released for Kopech's withdrawal from the game, but the Boston Red Sox organization typically is conservative with Greenville's pitchers innings and pitch counts, particularly the younger pitchers, and Kopech is 19." While the innings thing makes some sense, it would be his 5th day of rest and thus a day in which he would be ready to pitch...Is it possible that a promotion is the cause for the withdrawal?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 13:20:34 GMT -5
I'll be watching the SAL all star game tonight in Asheville, can't wait. the Drive have 7 players on the Southern squad. Devers, Guerra, Procyshen, and Miller are starters. Dubon, Alcantara, and one other pitcher replacing Kopeck i can't remember who. Also Ben Moore was originally on the roster but isn't playing. Just read this from local Greenville newspaper announcing Kopech's withdrawal from the game which gives no concrete reason as it states, "No reason was released for Kopech's withdrawal from the game, but the Boston Red Sox organization typically is conservative with Greenville's pitchers innings and pitch counts, particularly the younger pitchers, and Kopech is 19." While the innings thing makes some sense, it would be his 5th day of rest and thus a day in which he would be ready to pitch...Is it possible that a promotion is the cause for the withdrawal? It's certainly possible, but unlikely, imo. I'd be extremely surprised - that'd be far more aggressive than they'd been with a HS pitcher in a long time. Kopech is already one of the 15 youngest players in the league, and he'd be the youngest player in High A. For Kopech, the one-level-a-year approach seems most likely and appropriate. Wouldn't be the first time they held a young starter out of an ASG. They probably don't want him going in there and airing it out for an inning and screwing up his mechanics. Not something to read too much into, imo.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 23, 2015 13:39:00 GMT -5
Agree whole heartedly with that assessment Chris. Kopech's Mechanic's from the set position, or with men on base definitely need work as anyone who has watched several of his games can attest to. Whether or not they think someone at Salem is better to work with him on that issue? It seem questionable.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 13:56:33 GMT -5
Come to think of it, a promotion would have nothing to do with holding him out of the ASG. Both leagues are on their break at the same time, so I'm not sure what difference his pitching in the game would have on his being promoted or not.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 23, 2015 14:17:41 GMT -5
Making plans to head to the Fort for July 4 weekend.. They are home 7/4 and 7/6. Wife to the beach and my son and myself to the games on Saturday and then Monday. Espinoza may not be there, but hoping more of the newer draftees arrive. That is one "understanding" wife you got there John. Enjoy. I hope you see Anderson Espinoza! Hopefully you'll see one of my favorites in the "Jagger" man.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 23, 2015 15:46:16 GMT -5
Interesting game in Ft. Myers today. GCL Sox draw 10 BB's and collect 6 hits to win 8-0. GCL Rays also committed 4 errors, as only 3 runs were earned. Nobody got more than 1 hit and the only extra base hit was a 2B from Trenton Kemp, who was also the only Sox to strike out more than once (2 times).
Bautista with 4K's, 2 BB's, and 3 H in 4 IP. Jalen Williams got the win, pitching hte next 3 innings (1K, 2BB, 1 H).
EDIT: Spelling
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jun 23, 2015 15:54:52 GMT -5
Come to think of it, a promotion would have nothing to do with holding him out of the ASG. Both leagues are on their break at the same time, so I'm not sure what difference his pitching in the game would have on his being promoted or not. If he were to be promoted, logistically and time wise it would make much more sense to have him pack up his stuff and make the 2+ hour drive from Salem to Greenville during a break in which he can have a day or so to find a place, set up shop and get settled without having to worry about baseball obligations. To this end, it would be pretty taxing to make him trek the four hour round trip from salem to Asheville where the all star game is being played; then have him turn around and make the 2.5 hour trip to Greenville, that would be a total of 6.5 hours driving total in addition to pitching a game plus getting all his stuff and living arrangements organized...
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Post by okin15 on Jun 23, 2015 15:55:56 GMT -5
Sounds like one of those "wait and walk" games. If you swing, you may strike out, but if not... WINNING
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Post by soxloom2016 on Jun 23, 2015 16:35:18 GMT -5
Assume Henry Ramos is on a rehab assignment in Fort Myers. Completely forgot about that guy.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 17:19:47 GMT -5
Come to think of it, a promotion would have nothing to do with holding him out of the ASG. Both leagues are on their break at the same time, so I'm not sure what difference his pitching in the game would have on his being promoted or not. If he were to be promoted, logistically and time wise it would make much more sense to have him pack up his stuff and make the 2+ hour drive from Salem to Greenville during a break in which he can have a day or so to find a place, set up shop and get settled without having to worry about baseball obligations. To this end, it would be pretty taxing to make him trek the four hour round trip from salem to Asheville where the all star game is being played; then have him turn around and make the 2.5 hour trip to Greenville, that would be a total of 6.5 hours driving total in addition to pitching a game plus getting all his stuff and living arrangements organized... Well, at any rate, Kopech is in Asheville. He was Periscoping from the HR derby, so he's there. He's just not pitching. I think you might just be overthinking the logistics a little bit. It's not like the guys drive themselves to the game in a caravan like summer Legion ball. The club views all-star games as a reward for the players (rightfully so) and while they may hold them out of the game for certain reasons, they're less likely to keep them from going and having that reward of attending. It's happened before where they've promoted players right after playing in/attending their league's all-star game (look for Travis to be promoted after the Carolina-California League ASG) rather than going back to their old team. For example, in 2009, Anthony Rizzo, Tim Federowicz, and David Mailman were all promoted to Salem immediately following the SAL ASG (and three org guys from Salem demoted to take their roster spots, which was kind of harsh, but hey, life of an org guy). I recall other cases where it seemed stupid not to promote a guy in, say, early June, particularly in the low minors, but they wait so the guy can play in the all-star game, but can't think of the names now. Anyway, there's my TMI post on all-star games and promotions. And y'know, the more I think about it, the more I do think that at least one of the all-star infielders will get the bump to Salem, although I'm not sure which.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 23, 2015 17:26:13 GMT -5
Also, it's Greenville to Salem, not vice-versa. I'd also be shocked if they didn't have someone coordinating where he can live temporarily and permanently.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 17:27:35 GMT -5
Also, it's Greenville to Salem, not vice-versa. I'd also be shocked if they didn't have someone coordinating where he can live temporarily and permanently. They do. Raquel Ferreira.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 23, 2015 17:29:00 GMT -5
I'm thinking Dubon gets promoted. He's the oldest (pretty sure) and has been steady all year. Amfox seemed to think from his first hand report this past week that Devers could be challenged a bit more by a promotion.
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jun 23, 2015 17:39:10 GMT -5
If he were to be promoted, logistically and time wise it would make much more sense to have him pack up his stuff and make the 2+ hour drive from Salem to Greenville during a break in which he can have a day or so to find a place, set up shop and get settled without having to worry about baseball obligations. To this end, it would be pretty taxing to make him trek the four hour round trip from salem to Asheville where the all star game is being played; then have him turn around and make the 2.5 hour trip to Greenville, that would be a total of 6.5 hours driving total in addition to pitching a game plus getting all his stuff and living arrangements organized... Well, at any rate, Kopech is in Asheville. He was Periscoping from the HR derby, so he's there. He's just not pitching. I think you might just be overthinking the logistics a little bit. It's not like the guys drive themselves to the game in a caravan like summer Legion ball. The club views all-star games as a reward for the players (rightfully so) and while they may hold them out of the game for certain reasons, they're less likely to keep them from going and having that reward of attending. It's happened before where they've promoted players right after playing in/attending their league's all-star game (look for Travis to be promoted after the Carolina-California League ASG) rather than going back to their old team. For example, in 2009, Anthony Rizzo, Tim Federowicz, and David Mailman were all promoted to Salem immediately following the SAL ASG (and three org guys from Salem demoted to take their roster spots, which was kind of harsh, but hey, life of an org guy). I recall other cases where it seemed stupid not to promote a guy in, say, early June, particularly in the low minors, but they wait so the guy can play in the all-star game, but can't think of the names now. Anyway, there's my TMI post on all-star games and promotions. And y'know, the more I think about it, the more I do think that at least one of the all-star infielders will get the bump to Salem, although I'm not sure which. haha well alright makes alot of sense and thanks for ALL the info!!!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 23, 2015 18:05:51 GMT -5
Dioscar records two outs, then allows an infield single, base hit to right, a walk, a single to center, and a single to right to end his night. Likely pulled because he reached 32 pitches - 30 in an inning is the magic number for them.
Tate Matheny making his debut, batting third and playing center. 4-3 in his first AB
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Post by caseytins on Jun 23, 2015 19:30:54 GMT -5
Denyi Reyes is now at 25IP with 28Ks and 0BBs in the DSL.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 23, 2015 21:00:37 GMT -5
Looks like Anderson Espinoza is getting his first start tomorrow...
J.Felix Luzon Melo @9starsagent Mañana debutará Anderson Espinoza @paarking en la GCL vs Tampa! comienza su ciclo de carrera activa en MILB! 17 años y mucho futuro
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 23, 2015 21:14:59 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Jackie Bradley is 3 for 4 with his 18th double of the year. There's a possibility he's just a Quad-A guy - that there's something in his game that allows him to conquer Triple-A that just doesn't translate into the majors. But, like I said last year, his defense really mitigates the downside risk of playing him. He's someone who doesn't kill your team even when he's not hitting. And he really might hit.
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jun 23, 2015 21:50:27 GMT -5
Devers and Guerra dominant in Carolina League all star game,Guerra was 2 for 2 both doubles and 1 rbi while devers was 1 for 3 with double a stolen base and 2 rbis. They accounted for 3 of the 5 extra base hits and 3 of the 5 runs batted in...very very impressive considering they are the 3rd (devers) and 10th youngest position players in the league!!!
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