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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jul 6, 2015 8:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 6, 2015 8:30:25 GMT -5
I think before the All Star break if they can chop off one or two games would be nice. I don't understand giving Porcello one more shot. I guess the catcher saw a couple of things he can help Porcello with. We will see. Farrell has to find someone else besides Taz to lean on all the time. The bullpen is a huge key coming up.
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Post by nomar on Jul 6, 2015 9:13:08 GMT -5
Dates are actually 7/7-7/8 (day off today)
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Post by templeusox on Jul 6, 2015 9:43:02 GMT -5
Fact or fiction: AL best shortstop Xander Boegarts was once moved off shortstop for Stephen Drew?
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jul 6, 2015 10:02:40 GMT -5
Fact or fiction: AL best shortstop Xander Boegarts was once moved off shortstop for Stephen Drew? Not the front office's finest hour.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 6, 2015 11:46:49 GMT -5
Fact or fiction: AL best shortstop Xander Boegarts was once moved off shortstop for Stephen Drew? Not the front office's finest hour. Neither was trading future HOF shortstop Jose Iglesias for a #6 starter.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 6, 2015 11:47:13 GMT -5
Given we have an extra reliever right now (Masterson) and two off days over the next 7, I wonder if the Sox will consider adding a hitter in place of Wright or Ross (my preference). Hitter cold be Nava or Shaw, and could be used on the bench or at 1B. Nava allows a platoon advantage when paired with Napoli.
Add: DeAza would be well served to spend some time during the all-star break learning to play 1B. Could be his ticket to a starting job. Obviously, the Sox would also be well served.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 6, 2015 12:02:37 GMT -5
Not the front office's finest hour. Neither was trading future HOF shortstop Jose Iglesias for a #6 starter. That was because of not knowing when or if Clay B would be back. I'm as big a fan of Iggy as anyone, but I think they did what they had to do. Sox prospects fans might see 2 SS from the system in the All Star Game this year. I think Iggy and Xander both belong.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 6, 2015 12:22:30 GMT -5
It's quite possibly too late, but this team right now looks almost exactly like I thought they'd look coming out of spring training ... an elite offense supported by developing cornerstones in Betts and Bogaerts, inconsistent (but not terrible) starting pitching, thin bullpen. Heading into the final stretch before ASB, I think the main downside surprises in the current performance of the team are that Napoli is this bad, the bullpen is worse than I thought it'd be, and I thought the Sox would get more from RF than this. But on the positive side, I didn't expect Rodriguez to contribute so much in the first half and De Aza has done better than anyone could've expected. Swihart really came on as a player, as well.
But it's really too late for that. They need to be better than the good team I thought they'd be to make up for the putrescence of the first 10 weeks of the season. It's not so much the six game deficit, which isn't really that bad. It's that they have to climb over so many other AL East teams to get there. They need another starting pitcher to step up, especially, right away.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 6, 2015 12:22:49 GMT -5
“@alexspeier: Red Sox option Steven Wright to Pawtucket t.co/DGppfVwtx6 via @bostonglobe”
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 6, 2015 12:23:32 GMT -5
Not the front office's finest hour. Neither was trading future HOF shortstop Jose Iglesias for a #6 starter. And winning a WS?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 6, 2015 12:40:07 GMT -5
“@alexspeier: Red Sox option Steven Wright to Pawtucket t.co/DGppfVwtx6 via @bostonglobe” He was with the Red Sox?
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 6, 2015 12:56:42 GMT -5
“@alexspeier: Red Sox option Steven Wright to Pawtucket t.co/DGppfVwtx6 via @bostonglobe” He was with the Red Sox? I hate you, Cherington.
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Post by wcp3 on Jul 6, 2015 12:59:45 GMT -5
Same. The fact that Wright was up with the Sox at all is nauseating.
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Post by klostrophobic on Jul 6, 2015 13:04:03 GMT -5
Neither was trading future HOF shortstop Jose Iglesias for a #6 starter. And winning a WS? Jake Peavy was of no import to winning a world series. They won the division by 6 games and he put up a 7.11 ERA in the playoffs.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 6, 2015 13:06:52 GMT -5
I would have given Wright the starts. Looks like the Johnson supporters win out.
Have to give WCP credit. His position never changes on the floater. Maybe if Xander picked one up and switched to pitcher, nah.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 6, 2015 13:30:33 GMT -5
Masterson and Wright were superfluous in the team's eyes.
Sox don't need a fifth starter until after the break. It's quite possible that Wright will be the one called up, not Johnson, now that the 40 is full. With Spruill off, there aren't necessarily obvious DFA candidates there (although there are certainly options).
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 6, 2015 13:37:32 GMT -5
Masterson and Wright were superfluous in the team's eyes. Sox don't need a fifth starter until after the break. It's quite possible that Wright will be the one called up, not Johnson, now that the 40 is full. With Spruill off, there aren't necessarily obvious DFA candidates there (although there are certainly options). I forgot about 2 off days ,and had to look up superfluous, but that makes sense.
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Post by thursty on Jul 6, 2015 14:05:41 GMT -5
Fact or fiction: AL best shortstop Xander Boegarts was once moved off shortstop for Stephen Drew? You don't really believe that nonsense that that was responsible for his 2014 season?
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 6, 2015 14:07:35 GMT -5
Jake Peavy was of no import to winning a world series. They won the division by 6 games and he put up a 7.11 ERA in the playoffs. Uh the Rays playoff game.
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Post by thursty on Jul 6, 2015 14:08:27 GMT -5
Not the front office's finest hour. Neither was trading future HOF shortstop Jose Iglesias for a #6 starter. He'll have to make room for Brendan Ryan first
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 6, 2015 14:09:35 GMT -5
And Ws game
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 6, 2015 14:10:27 GMT -5
Not the front office's finest hour. Neither was trading future HOF shortstop Jose Iglesias for a #6 starter. I would temper the HOF talk, but he is a legitimate MLB SS it seems, even if I remember a lot of folks saying said he would never be able to hit enough to be a good MLB caliber player.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 6, 2015 14:13:41 GMT -5
Fact or fiction: AL best shortstop Xander Boegarts was once moved off shortstop for Stephen Drew? You don't really believe that nonsense that that was responsible for his 2014 season? yes I do. and the numbers back it up.
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Post by thursty on Jul 6, 2015 14:17:23 GMT -5
You don't really believe that nonsense that that was responsible for his 2014 season? yes I do. and the numbers back it up. post hoc ergo propter hoc as do the "numbers" that show increasing % of breaking balls thrown and for strikes. maybe . . .
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