danr
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Post by danr on Jul 27, 2015 17:45:24 GMT -5
MLBrumors says Castillo recalled to replace Victorino.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 27, 2015 17:49:00 GMT -5
So, Rusney is going to get playing time priority over Bradley the rest of the year? Remind me, which one of them was signed for $72,000,000?
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Post by dridiot on Jul 27, 2015 17:49:21 GMT -5
I agree, but there is still Nava and De Aza in the way. Castillo already called up. Informal roll call, would people rather see JBJ up here to prove he can hit with his new approach, or would you rather see if Castillo can harness his raw tools that made him a $72 million dollar man in the eyes of Cherington? Yeah, hoping we can get someone to take Napoli and then try to take Hanley out of LF.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 27, 2015 17:56:35 GMT -5
Victorino is a RHH. Castillo is a RHH.
De Aza and Nava are LHH. Bradley is a LHH.
Bradley will be up when they move De Aza.
EDIT: merged the two threads. No reason to duplicate the Castillo talk.
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Post by thebrassbuckle1993 on Jul 27, 2015 18:00:27 GMT -5
Informal roll call, would people rather see JBJ up here to prove he can hit with his new approach, or would you rather see if Castillo can harness his raw tools that made him a $72 million dollar man in the eyes of Cherington? Castillo is up because he is RHH, as is ShaneO. When De Aza is traded, JBJ will be recalled if he is not traded first. Does the whole RHH vs LHH aspect still apply to a team not in contention for the playoffs? I would guess that out of those two, Bradley is more likely to be a platoon/4th outfielder because of his defense, but wouldn't it be import to see if they can hit both types of pitchers?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 27, 2015 18:08:49 GMT -5
Castillo is up because he is RHH, as is ShaneO. When De Aza is traded, JBJ will be recalled if he is not traded first. Does the whole RHH vs LHH aspect still apply to a team not in contention for the playoffs? I would guess that out of those two, Bradley is more likely to be a platoon/4th outfielder because of his defense, but wouldn't it be import to see if they can hit both types of pitchers? Probably best to put them in positions to succeed. You don't want to bring up JBJ and only let him face lefties.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 27, 2015 18:09:12 GMT -5
Thanks Shane for the 2013 World Series!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 27, 2015 18:10:41 GMT -5
As for the amount of money, how much do they need to clear to get under the CBT? Amfox or anyone got that number handy? All that matters at the end of the day is that if they're going to clear payroll, they get under. Doesn't matter how much comes from which trade. ---- On the conference call, Cherington said Rutledge will join the MLB club and they've been interested in him since he was in Colorado... could this portend a Holt trade?
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Post by jmei on Jul 27, 2015 18:15:30 GMT -5
On the conference call, Cherington said Rutledge will join the MLB club and they've been interested in him since he was in Colorado... could this portend a Holt trade? I know you're being facetious, but it portends a Weeks DFA.
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Post by theolearyfactor on Jul 27, 2015 18:19:32 GMT -5
I'm gonna miss singing along to Shane's walk-up music. I wasn't expecting much of a return, but it would have been nice if LAA could've picked up more of that salary.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 27, 2015 18:22:50 GMT -5
This was one if my favorite Red Sox moments, mostly because I was at the game nesn.com/2013/11/shane-victorinos-alcs-grand-slam-captured-in-video-composed-entirely-of-fan-submitted-footage-video/That video does a great job of depicting the atmosphere that night. After Shane hit that, it felt like the whole stadium knew we were going to the World Series, and it felt like nothing was going to stop us from winning it all. Big thanks to Shane for that home run and everything he's done for this team. That said, I'm Underwhelmed by the return, as to be expected. I'd prefer a pitcher, even if he only had bullpen upside. And I've said this before (and posted that video before) but I really hope we don't trade Bradley.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 27, 2015 18:22:40 GMT -5
On the conference call, Cherington said Rutledge will join the MLB club and they've been interested in him since he was in Colorado... could this portend a Holt trade? I know you're being facetious, but it portends a Weeks DFA. Not being facetious. Not expressing myself well if it read like I meant imminently. Holt trade could happen now, could happen in the offseason. Cherington said they actually like Rutledge and that he can play 2B/SS/3B. I guess he could just be playing up the return they got for him, but the fact that he's going to Boston when he doesn't need to be is interesting. I guess we'll find out if they play him much, presuming Holt is available tomorrow like they say he'll be. If they considered him fungible, they could have just sent him to Pawtucket. He's already burned the option. Unless Holt's starting somewhere, I don't see how you have both on a roster. Again, assumes they actually like him. I probably read too much into Cherington's comments.
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Post by bookiemetts on Jul 27, 2015 18:26:41 GMT -5
It could also just mean that maybe Holt's knee isn't feeling great and he'll be going to the DL?
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 27, 2015 18:27:06 GMT -5
Good move, I don't think they were going to get any more, and as I said getting Shane off the roster and getting anything back is a good move. It's 100% about getting Rusney the playing time that he needs to get. I want JBJ to get time too, it's a difficult choice if it has to be between the two of them, but once they get Jackie up on the roster I think they can get him regular time in the outfield by giving Hanley/Ortiz/Napoli (if he's still here) days off, as well as Mookie and Rusney on occasion, and I understand the logic behind giving Rusney first crack at the starting right field job.
Always gotta love Shane in Boston though, class guy, loved watching him play, without him we probably don't get the World Series in '13.
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Post by jmei on Jul 27, 2015 18:27:51 GMT -5
I know you're being facetious, but it portends a Weeks DFA. Not being facetious. Not expressing myself well if it read like I meant imminently. Holt trade could happen now, could happen in the offseason. Cherington said they actually like Rutledge and that he can play 2B/SS/3B. I guess he could just be playing up the return they got for him, but the fact that he's going to Boston when he doesn't need to be is interesting. I guess we'll find out if they play him much, presuming Holt is available tomorrow like they say he'll be. If they considered him fungible, they could have just sent him to Pawtucket. He's already burned the option. Unless Holt's starting somewhere, I don't see how you have both on a roster. Again, assumes they actually like him. I probably read too much into Cherington's comments. Yeah, you're just reading too much into it.
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Post by mannofsteele on Jul 27, 2015 18:28:16 GMT -5
Congrats and thank you for the grand slam against Detroit in the ALCS in 2013, and a solid first season. It was a pleasure to watch you when healthy. Now it's time to move on.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 27, 2015 18:28:14 GMT -5
ADD2: I did my math wrong-- Rutledge should be out of options next year. Would have burned options in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Bleh. I'm looking over the Rockies transaction logs and he may not have burned an option in '14. I have him being optioned for only 18 days. The key is that he was on the major league DL (rather than minor league) from 4/28 to 5/13, and then was activated and optioned.
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Post by jmei on Jul 27, 2015 18:29:48 GMT -5
ADD2: I did my math wrong-- Rutledge should be out of options next year. Would have burned options in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Bleh. I'm looking over the Rockies transaction logs and he may not have burned an option in '14. I have him being optioned for only 18 days. The key is that he was on the major league DL (rather than minor league) from 4/28 to 5/13, and then was activated and optioned. Ah, good call, didn't occur to me that he was on the DL. I just eyeballed the game logs.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 27, 2015 18:31:28 GMT -5
Thank you Vic for that sweet 2013 season and the big fly against Detroit that got us in the World Series. Injuries limited the overall value, but the signing should be considered a success because of what he brought to that team.
In regards to the positional replacement for Shane, I can't really blame the FO for picking Castillo, but if it is because of the handedness of the batter, that's really splitting hairs for a decision, we are not going anywhere. If we are looking to reward performance, which should be a goal of any organization, the obvious candidate is Bradley.
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Post by huskies15 on Jul 27, 2015 18:42:10 GMT -5
Shane's 6.1 WAR in '13 and great defense made him an invaluable part of the 2013 team. That alone made his signing worth it. Too bad he just couldn't stay healthy. Best of luck Shane.
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Post by alnipper on Jul 27, 2015 18:42:13 GMT -5
I liked Josh when he was playing for Colorado.
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Post by Costigan on Jul 27, 2015 18:44:23 GMT -5
Why did Napoli leave the game? Is he hurt or getting traded? He was ejected after a third strike call.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 27, 2015 18:45:32 GMT -5
So, Rusney is going to get playing time priority over Bradley the rest of the year? Come on man, I can see the allure of JBJ, but he has over 500 PAs in the MLB, while Rusney has little over 100 and was, at the time of his signing, a much better prospect than JBJ ever was. He's had a bad and injured 2015, but they shouldn't just flush away the investment. Or maybe they are showing him up for a trade as well.
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Post by sdl on Jul 27, 2015 18:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by bookiemetts on Jul 27, 2015 18:56:50 GMT -5
Come on man, I can see the allure of JBJ, but he has over 500 PAs in the MLB, while Rusney has little over 100 and was, at the time of his signing, a much better prospect than JBJ ever was. He's had a bad and injured 2015, but they shouldn't just flush away the investment. Or maybe they are showing him up for a trade as well. Not sure I agree with this point. JBJ was the #2 prospect in the system for the entirety of 2013: www.soxprospects.com/history.htmPeople mostly thought he would be gold glove defense with a nice OBP. That being said I can see why they brought up Castillo, JBJ will be up soon I'm sure.
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