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Post by jimed14 on Nov 15, 2015 10:20:29 GMT -5
Koji career OPS splits: vs RHB: .575 vs LHB: .564 You don't need to throw with your left hand to get left-handed batters out. Tazawa has also always been very good against LHH, as has Varvaro. Combine that with Layne as a LOOGY and Ross as a second lefty (albeit one with minimal splits), and I don't think they necessarily have to get another lefty reliever. I also still have some hope for Escobar, who is out of options. I guess Escobar will have to look really good in ST before he's DFA'd, right?
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Post by sox fan in nc on Nov 16, 2015 11:20:16 GMT -5
Tazawa has also always been very good against LHH, as has Varvaro. Combine that with Layne as a LOOGY and Ross as a second lefty (albeit one with minimal splits), and I don't think they necessarily have to get another lefty reliever. I also still have some hope for Escobar, who is out of options. I guess Escobar will have to look really good in ST before he's DFA'd, right? Sorry for not knowing this...If Escobar is not on the ML roster to begin the season, he can opt to become a FA?.....I assume this will happen, or he can simply sign to stay in AAA as Quintero did last year?
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 16, 2015 11:32:43 GMT -5
I guess Escobar will have to look really good in ST before he's DFA'd, right? Sorry for not knowing this...If Escobar is not on the ML roster to begin the season, he can opt to become a FA?.....I assume this will happen, or he can simply sign to stay in AAA as Quintero did last year? He'd have to go through waivers, where I'm sure he'd get claimed. He wouldn't have the right to opt for free agency. That's a right for players with a certain amount of service time. If he got through waivers, he could be assigned to AAA and be off the 40 man, though he'd have limited use because he'd be subject to waivers every time he got sent down.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Nov 16, 2015 12:32:57 GMT -5
Tazawa has also always been very good against LHH, as has Varvaro. Combine that with Layne as a LOOGY and Ross as a second lefty (albeit one with minimal splits), and I don't think they necessarily have to get another lefty reliever. I also still have some hope for Escobar, who is out of options. I guess Escobar will have to look really good in ST before he's DFA'd, right? I'm still wondering why Escobar wasn't added to the Boston roster for September if he's in their plans. Was there ever any indication of that?
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Post by sox fan in nc on Nov 16, 2015 13:21:21 GMT -5
I guess Escobar will have to look really good in ST before he's DFA'd, right? I'm still wondering why Escobar wasn't added to the Boston roster for September if he's in their plans. Was there ever any indication of that? Just looking at his numbers the last few years, has very low strikeouts per innings pitched...I know that doesn't mean everything, just seems like an important skill these days for a bullpen arm.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 16, 2015 13:55:02 GMT -5
I guess Escobar will have to look really good in ST before he's DFA'd, right? I'm still wondering why Escobar wasn't added to the Boston roster for September if he's in their plans. Was there ever any indication of that? He really should have just been moved to the BP to start the season since it was unlikely that he was going to figure out enough to be a starter for 2016 in the majors. Maybe there's a little hindsight in that comment, but probably not a lot.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 16, 2015 15:11:56 GMT -5
I'm still wondering why Escobar wasn't added to the Boston roster for September if he's in their plans. Was there ever any indication of that? He really should have just been moved to the BP to start the season since it was unlikely that he was going to figure out enough to be a starter for 2016 in the majors. Maybe there's a little hindsight in that comment, but probably not a lot. He actually was in the bullpen for most of the season. He was hurt to start the year and was in the bullpen when he came back, where he never really pitched all that well. It wasn't until the Pawtucket rotation was in a shambles from call-ups and injuries that they moved him back to the rotation for August.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Nov 17, 2015 15:56:36 GMT -5
Just browsing thru the prospect list now that a bunch of kids moved up. Looking at the Luis Ysla numbers (guy we got from SF for De Aza)....he was a starter this year on SF's high-A team....not a great ERA, but serious SO/IP ratio....said the RS making him a reliever...23 yrs old. mid-high 90's FB.....someone to look at.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 24, 2015 13:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 24, 2015 13:41:18 GMT -5
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Post by steveofbradenton on Nov 24, 2015 14:12:13 GMT -5
I saw that list yesterday, and I believe you are right Chris that they may pick up one of those high velo guys and bring them to Spring Training. There is a good mix of righties and lefties to choose from. Certainly some have control problems, but why not? To only lose $25K?
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Post by jmei on Nov 24, 2015 14:33:48 GMT -5
You also lose a 40-man spot. If it's a question of choosing between a Rule 5 guy and, say, Roman Mendez (who has plenty of velocity himself), there's a good argument for keeping Mendez, since with him you at least have the option of trying to sneak him through waivers in April when rosters are pretty full.
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Post by ramireja on Nov 24, 2015 14:52:35 GMT -5
...also, note a single Red Sox player in that entire list of names to remember
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 24, 2015 15:35:07 GMT -5
Rafael De Paula looks interesting, though he didn't pitch above high A. After a July move to the bullpen, he k'ed 33.7% and bb'ed 8.9% in 25 IP.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 24, 2015 19:15:00 GMT -5
You also lose a 40-man spot. If it's a question of choosing between a Rule 5 guy and, say, Roman Mendez (who has plenty of velocity himself), there's a good argument for keeping Mendez, since with him you at least have the option of trying to sneak him through waivers in April when rosters are pretty full. I'd choose Mendez. But given the choice between someone like Onelki Garcia and Edwin Escobar or Sean Coyle? I'd rather use the 40-man slot on one of the former and let it sort itself out in camp. Garcia and Escobar had similarly disastrous 2015 seasons coming off an injury, but Garcia has the much, much better stuff.
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Post by nomar on Nov 24, 2015 19:30:02 GMT -5
Rafael De Paula looks interesting, though he didn't pitch above high A. After a July move to the bullpen, he k'ed 33.7% and bb'ed 8.9% in 25 IP. Wait is that the Yankees pitcher? He has nasty stuff if so. Haven't heard much on him over the past year though. He has late inning potential. Edit: Ah yes, traded to SD in Headley deal. I would jump on that guy.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 25, 2015 10:02:34 GMT -5
...also, note a single Red Sox player in that entire list of names to remember As we've mentioned (I mentioned I guess...) on the News Page preview last week, this wasn't really a bad year for the Sox in terms of protecting guys. That's probably what made it a bit easier to protect someone like Jerez. In another year, they might have had to leave him out there and cross their fingers.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 25, 2015 10:02:53 GMT -5
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Post by sox fan in nc on Nov 25, 2015 13:33:09 GMT -5
I noticed you had Webster being picked up by Pittsburg (they couldn't have given much for him). I know he's a head case & all, just wonder, with his stuff, for him to be a serviceable middle inning reliever with less pressure being on him. If nothing else, seems we need some starting depth in AAA. I know he didn't have a good year, but he was in the hitter friendly PCL.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 29, 2015 15:39:31 GMT -5
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 3 min. #MLB teams that are actively seeking relief pitching: ARI, ATL, BOS, DET, HOU, KC, LAD, NYM, OAK, PIT, TOR and WASH.
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Post by sdiaz1 on Nov 29, 2015 16:46:20 GMT -5
I wonder if a healthy Garcia could be a lights out lefty specialist. He once had awesome stuff while in Dodgers system, are there any post injury scouting? The stats last year were ugly, but could be rust related ass noise.
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Post by mannofsteele on Nov 30, 2015 8:44:22 GMT -5
Kimbrel, Uehara, Tazawa and Ross are likely the only guys that have the inside track at the major league roster. With: Barnes, Aro, Hembree, Escobar, Light, Layne, Mendez, Workman and Wright fighting it out for spots. There are varying levels of talent/stuff and control in the latter group that will have to be decided on between Farrell and management, so I could see a Rule 5 selection taken on an arm. The bullpen as much in a state of transition as the starting pitching is.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 30, 2015 9:59:24 GMT -5
Kimbrel, Uehara, Tazawa and Ross are likely the only guys that have the inside track at the major league roster. With: Barnes, Aro, Hembree, Escobar, Light, Layne, Mendez, Workman and Wright fighting it out for spots. There are varying levels of talent/stuff and control in the latter group that will have to be decided on between Farrell and management, so I could see a Rule 5 selection taken on an arm. The bullpen as much in a state of transition as the starting pitching is. I'd say Layne has the inside track as well, and Brandon Workman is out until June at the earliest (and more realistically around 8/1). Agree that they could look to the Rule 5 for a power lefty. The aforementioned Onelki Garcia is definitely a fit, to me. He is coming off a crummy year but he was coming off elbow surgery. And he has a fastball that misses bats - even in a bad year he was striking out more than 1/4 of opposing batters.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 30, 2015 11:11:43 GMT -5
could be rust related ass noise. They have a pill you can take for that now, I think. ---- As for current players, note that Wright, Mendez, and Escobar are all out of options. If they're not making your opening day bullpen, you're at least exposing them to waivers. Workman will be rehabbing or "rehabbing" for at least the first half, you'd think, and even still, he somewhat surprisingly has 2 options remaining.
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Post by sdiaz1 on Nov 30, 2015 23:19:50 GMT -5
Well that was an awesome typo on my part. Meant to say SSS noise, but oh well.
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