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Post by grandsalami on Oct 24, 2015 14:37:07 GMT -5
@nickcafardo: It appears former Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr will become Red Sox first base coach.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Oct 24, 2015 14:40:04 GMT -5
Oh my!
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 24, 2015 14:51:15 GMT -5
Weird.
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Post by nomar on Oct 24, 2015 14:50:51 GMT -5
LMFAO
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2015 14:52:08 GMT -5
I mean, this is a joke, right?
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Post by chavopepe2 on Oct 24, 2015 14:56:23 GMT -5
- The Onion
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 24, 2015 15:03:25 GMT -5
I mean, this is a joke, right? No. It's real. |
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Post by soxfan06 on Oct 24, 2015 15:05:46 GMT -5
We fired a respected coach in Arnie Beyeler to hire this buffoon to coach 1st base?
Only the Red Sox....
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Post by jimoh on Oct 24, 2015 15:06:14 GMT -5
Don't we need a better source than Cafardo?
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Post by nomar on Oct 24, 2015 15:10:43 GMT -5
From Theo and Ben to Amaro and Wren.
Who called that?
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Oct 24, 2015 15:15:01 GMT -5
No words but
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Post by Smittyw on Oct 24, 2015 15:24:46 GMT -5
Um...okay?
Better than in the front office.
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Post by ray88h66 on Oct 24, 2015 15:49:34 GMT -5
No idea if this is true. Hope it is just to get the blood boiling of the regs that know everything. I do remember the manager, J.F. , mentioning he played with him in Cleveland.
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Post by ianrs on Oct 24, 2015 15:53:34 GMT -5
File this under "last thing I would have expected the Red Sox to do this offseason."
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Post by shaqtus on Oct 24, 2015 16:02:10 GMT -5
I can't wait until he tells Xander after a single that he's been traded to the Rockies for two C-level prospects, and some international allocation money.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 24, 2015 16:13:57 GMT -5
@jonheymancbs: Ruben Amaro will be red sox 1B coach. @nickcafardo 1st
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 24, 2015 16:14:52 GMT -5
He was, like most first base coaches, in over his head as a general manager. That doesn't mean he can't be a capable first base coach. Good for Amaro for leaving the ego at the door and starting over as a field coach (which I don't believe he has ever been).
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Post by burythehammer on Oct 24, 2015 16:43:52 GMT -5
He was, like most first base coaches, in over his head as a general manager. That doesn't mean he can't be a capable first base coach. Good for Amaro for leaving the ego at the door and starting over as a field coach (which I don't believe he has ever been). I agree that the vast majority of first base coaches probably think RBI is an important statistic. That doesn't mean ours has to. |
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Post by amfox1 on Oct 24, 2015 16:46:28 GMT -5
He was, like most first base coaches, in over his head as a general manager. That doesn't mean he can't be a capable first base coach. Good for Amaro for leaving the ego at the door and starting over as a field coach (which I don't believe he has ever been). Keep in mind three things: 1. RAJ played for eight years in the major leagues. 2. RAJ played with John Farrell on the Indians. 3. RAJ's father was a first base coach, among other positions. Doesn't mean that this isn't shocking or amusing, though. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 24, 2015 16:52:50 GMT -5
He was, like most first base coaches, in over his head as a general manager. That doesn't mean he can't be a capable first base coach. Good for Amaro for leaving the ego at the door and starting over as a field coach (which I don't believe he has ever been). I agree that the vast majority of first base coaches probably think RBI is an important statistic. That doesn't mean ours has to. Well, that does imply he knows which way to direct approaching runners. How many GM types does the organization have in tow at this point? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:54:50 GMT -5
If true, this is disturbing on many levels. Why would Boston hire him? Why would he take the job? Why would he interview for the job? How many current or former GMs can dance on the head of a pin? Are GMs the new undervalued commodity?
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 24, 2015 17:06:28 GMT -5
I just can't believe this one. He would take a FO job somewhere before that.
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Post by ray88h66 on Oct 24, 2015 17:19:36 GMT -5
I just can't believe this one. He would take a FO job somewhere before that. It's on the Sox web site, so I guess it's true. In other news , the ghost of Dick Stewart has been hired to work with Hanley. Arod turned down the injection coaches position. Bonds will be interviewed on Monday. |
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 24, 2015 17:24:55 GMT -5
Two possibilities here and both stemming from the same fact - he was an extraordinarily poor general manager. One possibility is that he was looking for a front office job but there were no teams willing to offer him one, because again, awful GM, so his only course of staying in baseball was this gig or a similar one. The second possibility is that he's pretty self-aware about his reputation as a GM and he knows he's not going to get that opportunity again. So the only realistic way to repair his reputation in baseball is becoming a field manager, which he's going to have to work his way up to - he has no field coaching experience, after all.
Another side point. I've mentioned a couple times over the last year or so that Amaro's failing as a GM was his total, unbelievable, fanciful, fantastical belief in the value of his own players. He overpaid guys like Howard and Rollins, gave Ruiz a lot of money to stay even though they stunk, asked the world for Hamels, Utley, Rollins, etc. even though they were on big contract and trading them was his only shot at rebuilding. Having a wildly over-inflated opinion of the talent of the players on your own team is a really terrible trait in a GM (for pretty obvious and evident reasons), but in a first base coach? That might be a pretty useful quality to have.
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Post by artfuldodger on Oct 24, 2015 17:26:58 GMT -5
It appears that the reports are premature:
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