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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 9, 2017 11:07:03 GMT -5
If you were a baseball player why wouldn't you want Boras on your side? This isn't a conjuring trick where he put Martinez under some evil spell.
Players come into his camp because he works for them like few other agents can. His presentations are legendary and, as a GM, you have to be prepared because he'll have numbers you've never heard of to back the demands.
He gets hired because he's the best at what he does, represent the player for all he's worth and then some.
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Nov 9, 2017 11:16:36 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Nov 9, 2017 11:16:36 GMT -5
Absolutely predictable. Boycott Boras. This changes everything. Even his asking prices send chills down the backs of GM's and most players who know the rest of the 40-man pie will have to be cut in smaller pieces. Trouble is, this incoming tide raises the $$ of guys like Santana, Hosmer (despite QO) even Nunez, MM, LoMo, Duda and Alonzo, etc. This could even make Arb negotiations more contentious. Boras cares only about one thing: big $$$$ contract for his player and biiig $$$$ commission for himself; screw the team, the fans, the community, other players owners. MLB's own version of Wall St. I fixed that for you. I gladly cheer for every dollar Boras earns for his clients, which only come at the expense of owners' wallets. Root for the millionaires over the billionaires. Always - or deconstructed for the rest of us non-millionaires: when it comes to cash and benefits, root for the workers, not the owners.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 9, 2017 12:11:58 GMT -5
I fixed that for you. I gladly cheer for every dollar Boras earns for his clients, which only come at the expense of owners' wallets. Root for the millionaires over the billionaires. Always - or deconstructed for the rest of us non-millionaires: when it comes to cash and benefits, root for the workers, not the owners. I root for the minor league players who are eating at Taco Bell 3 times a day for 10 years because baseball owners are too damn cheap to pay them enough to live on and eat healthy food. There are more than two classes in baseball. There are the owners, the superstar players and everyone else. I root for everyone else.
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Nov 9, 2017 12:24:00 GMT -5
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Post by jdb on Nov 9, 2017 12:24:00 GMT -5
At the end of the day I'd be surprised if Martinez got closer to $200M than $100M.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 9, 2017 12:53:02 GMT -5
The thing that sucks with Boras is that he forces teams to wait him out, leading to alternatives being taken away and in turn, that leads to overpaying because there are no alternatives.
It's a real crappy situation for teams to be in when the #1 most obvious target is represented by Boras.
This whole 'don't root for the billionaires' stuff really pisses me off. How about 'Don't root for Boras to make it impossible for Mookie Betts or Chris Sale to be extended'?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 9, 2017 13:55:34 GMT -5
The thing that sucks with Boras is that he forces teams to wait him out, leading to alternatives being taken away and in turn, that leads to overpaying because there are no alternatives. It's a real crappy situation for teams to be in when the #1 most obvious target is represented by Boras. This whole 'don't root for the billionaires' stuff really pisses me off. How about 'Don't root for Boras to make it impossible for Mookie Betts or Chris Sale to be extended'? I was trying to find a way to respond to jmei but my words weren't cutting it. Jimed, I think your posts have nailed how I feel about the situation. While I don't root for the billionaires the multi millionaires are hardly worth my sympathy. I remember the 1981 and 1994 strikes pretty well. The owners were trying to roll back the clock so there was no sympathy there, but the players were hardly sympathy worthy. Baseball goes beyond Employer/Employee. There's the third party - the fans - the guys who aren't millionaires or billionaires, who work jobs in which they won't make in a lifetime what a player makes in a few months....I can't connect with the players here, either. And these players in the past were quite ready to strike and it's the fans who lose out - the players are already financially set for a bunch of lifetimes. Boras is representing millionaires who are already loaded. I certainly don't get a Scott Boras to represent me and make sure I wind up with the highest paying job. It's a luxury that a typical working person can't fathom. And of course Boras doesn't want to know you if you're not an all-star or top prospect, etc. He doesn't cater to the fringe player. So we the fans look at it thru a prism of how is all this benefitting/screwing my team? You wonder how far this goes. Baseball isn't like basketball where one player can have THAT much of an impact like a Michael Jordan did. You can't have 1 player taking up a third of the payroll and expect to compete as Marlins fans know pretty well. So I do get the argument of why root for owners and I don't. But it's just hard being a regular working guy rooting for players to make money that's totally ridiculous, and having to hear Boras drone on about his player is the second coming of Babe Ruth. It does get nauseating. Especially when you consider how ridiculous it is that your paying for elite performances for a guy who won't likely deserve it down the road. Those extra years that Boras uses in competition between the teams can become very costly during the player's inevitable decline. At that point the player in a sense is almost ripping off the owner (of course you can conversely point out that young productive players are being exploited by owners - it's all out of whack.). The only silver lining is that over the past twenty something years, the millionaires and billionaires have figured out a better way to split the pie than they had before so I don't have to hear about strike every other year like I did growing up. Bringing this back to the 2018 Red Sox I don't want to see the team have to spend extra $ on JD Martinez to the point where it affects them for luxury tax penalties (I don't care about them paying extra - it's the other penalties, the kind that adversely affect team building.) I'm rooting for other(better quality) players to get the extra $ that Boras will get his client than be stuck with lesser surrounding players or having to tack on an extra year where JD Martinez is worth nowhere near what they're paying for him and the team gets crippled.
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Nov 9, 2017 13:58:18 GMT -5
Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 9, 2017 13:58:18 GMT -5
The thing that sucks with Boras is that he forces teams to wait him out, leading to alternatives being taken away and in turn, that leads to overpaying because there are no alternatives. It's a real crappy situation for teams to be in when the #1 most obvious target is represented by Boras. This whole 'don't root for the billionaires' stuff really pisses me off. How about 'Don't root for Boras to make it impossible for Mookie Betts or Chris Sale to be extended'? Part of Boras' job is to be the bad guy and deflect the negative reaction away from the players. Do you really think that a player who wants to sign an extension is suddenly going to be like "oh crap, I signed with Scott Boras, never mind then"? If you sign with Boras, you the player do not want to sign an extension. Scott Boras does not tell his clients what to do. He can offer advice, sure, but at the end of the day, the client decides. In 2004, Jason Varitek told Boras to get a contract done with the Red Sox. He did. Any of Boras' clients could do the same. It's not like it's some system where Boras drafts his clients and they become represented by him against their will.
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Nov 9, 2017 14:07:03 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Nov 9, 2017 14:07:03 GMT -5
The thing that sucks with Boras is that he forces teams to wait him out, leading to alternatives being taken away and in turn, that leads to overpaying because there are no alternatives. It's a real crappy situation for teams to be in when the #1 most obvious target is represented by Boras. This whole 'don't root for the billionaires' stuff really pisses me off. How about 'Don't root for Boras to make it impossible for Mookie Betts or Chris Sale to be extended'? Part of Boras' job is to be the bad guy and deflect the negative reaction away from the players. Do you really think that a player who wants to sign an extension is suddenly going to be like "oh crap, I signed with Scott Boras, never mind then"? If you sign with Boras, you the player do not want to sign an extension. Scott Boras does not tell his clients what to do. He can offer advice, sure, but at the end of the day, the client decides. In 2004, Jason Varitek told Boras to get a contract done with the Red Sox. He did. Any of Boras' clients could do the same. It's not like it's some system where Boras drafts his clients and they become represented by him against their will. I don't even begrudge Boras or the players he represents. They're simply taking advantage of the system that they all put in place to give the most benefit to the elite players and screw everyone else, just like everywhere else in life. Everyone would do the same, except Dustin Pedroia, David Ortiz and Jason Varitek. And on top of that, there is nothing more annoying than seeing players who don't belong in the majors making $20 million a year while guys in the minors have to eat ramen noodles and sleep on mattresses older than they are if they're not sleeping on the floor.
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Nov 9, 2017 16:01:32 GMT -5
Post by Guidas on Nov 9, 2017 16:01:32 GMT -5
At the end of the day I'd be surprised if Martinez got closer to $200M than $100M. Remember that Dombrowski believes in "quick strikes" during the off-season. Whereas Boras likes to hold up deals until the holidays or beyond. Should be interesting.
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Nov 9, 2017 16:04:00 GMT -5
Post by Guidas on Nov 9, 2017 16:04:00 GMT -5
The thing that sucks with Boras is that he forces teams to wait him out, leading to alternatives being taken away and in turn, that leads to overpaying because there are no alternatives. It's a real crappy situation for teams to be in when the #1 most obvious target is represented by Boras. This whole 'don't root for the billionaires' stuff really pisses me off. How about 'Don't root for Boras to make it impossible for Mookie Betts or Chris Sale to be extended'? Part of Boras' job is to be the bad guy and deflect the negative reaction away from the players. Do you really think that a player who wants to sign an extension is suddenly going to be like "oh crap, I signed with Scott Boras, never mind then"? If you sign with Boras, you the player do not want to sign an extension. Scott Boras does not tell his clients what to do. He can offer advice, sure, but at the end of the day, the client decides. In 2004, Jason Varitek told Boras to get a contract done with the Red Sox. He did. Any of Boras' clients could do the same. It's not like it's some system where Boras drafts his clients and they become represented by him against their will. Ditto Jeff Weaver, Carlos Gonzalez, and Stephen Strasburg.
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Nov 9, 2017 17:50:02 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 9, 2017 17:50:02 GMT -5
Varitek was a Boras client since leaving College. He didn't hire Boras to get him that 2004 deal. I have to believe Martinez signed with Boras now for him to do his magic and get him a massive offer. Not so he quickly signs or resigns for a fair deal. Sure Boras does what his clients want, but the timing of this makes it seem like the cost to sign Martinez just went way up. I was thinking 5 years 125 million before. Some people thought that was high, more like 4 years 100 million. I bet Boras wants 7 years now. He might not get it, but I can see him pitching the Red Sox on how perfect he is to replace Ortiz. Look what he did when he got old etc. I don't really care about the per year cost. 25 million compared to say 27 to 30 million isn't huge. It's that Boras is going to go after those huge long-term deals. I feel like Martinez just went from 5 years likely, maybe 6 years if it got crazy to 7 years likely, with Boras starting at 8 years. It's one thing to be a long-term Boras client, it's another to hire him right before free agency.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 9, 2017 17:50:44 GMT -5
If my kid threw 97, Boras would be the first guy I'd call.
Some of you will agree with me. Others are liars.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:41:41 GMT -5
Post by johnsilver52 on Nov 9, 2017 18:41:41 GMT -5
The thing that sucks with Boras is that he forces teams to wait him out, leading to alternatives being taken away and in turn, that leads to overpaying because there are no alternatives. It's a real crappy situation for teams to be in when the #1 most obvious target is represented by Boras. This whole 'don't root for the billionaires' stuff really pisses me off. How about 'Don't root for Boras to make it impossible for Mookie Betts or Chris Sale to be extended'? Part of Boras' job is to be the bad guy and deflect the negative reaction away from the players. Do you really think that a player who wants to sign an extension is suddenly going to be like "oh crap, I signed with Scott Boras, never mind then"? If you sign with Boras, you the player do not want to sign an extension. Scott Boras does not tell his clients what to do. He can offer advice, sure, but at the end of the day, the client decides. In 2004, Jason Varitek told Boras to get a contract done with the Red Sox. He did. Any of Boras' clients could do the same. It's not like it's some system where Boras drafts his clients and they become represented by him against their will. I'd go with that also.. The players.. Many at least.. Forget where they came from and get far too greedy after getting a huge chunk of change in their pockets and it goes to their heads after a couple of seasons. The owners? Many were born that way, or at least earned their way up the ladder from many decades of hard work.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:04:54 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 9, 2017 20:04:54 GMT -5
Part of Boras' job is to be the bad guy and deflect the negative reaction away from the players. Do you really think that a player who wants to sign an extension is suddenly going to be like "oh crap, I signed with Scott Boras, never mind then"? If you sign with Boras, you the player do not want to sign an extension. Scott Boras does not tell his clients what to do. He can offer advice, sure, but at the end of the day, the client decides. In 2004, Jason Varitek told Boras to get a contract done with the Red Sox. He did. Any of Boras' clients could do the same. It's not like it's some system where Boras drafts his clients and they become represented by him against their will. I don't even begrudge Boras or the players he represents. They're simply taking advantage of the system that they all put in place to give the most benefit to the elite players and screw everyone else, just like everywhere else in life. Everyone would do the same, except Dustin Pedroia, David Ortiz and Jason Varitek. And on top of that, there is nothing more annoying than seeing players who don't belong in the majors making $20 million a year while guys in the minors have to eat ramen noodles and sleep on mattresses older than they are if they're not sleeping on the floor. While some of the minor league rules need adjusting, like 25 dollars for food per day. They don't have to eat ramen noodles everyday either. They should be paid for spring training and always have a place to stay paid for by the team. Even if it's a one star type place. I would love to see them basically double the current rates on top of that. At the same time the lawsuit demanding a living wage of like 45,000 to 60,000 a year is crazy in my opinion. The idea of a living wage is basically dead in this Country and I see no reason why minor leaguers should get one for 6 months of playing a game. Nevermind look at the money given out in the draft and international market. In no way are all minor leaguers equal. 17 players taken in the draft got over a $100,000. When you average that out over the average minor league career the numbers look a lot better. Some got a lot more. While only 8 players got $5,000 or less out of 43 players. Then if you make the majors you move into the what top 10% income bracket in this Country even if you make the minimum. It's really hard to feel bad for players getting paid to play a game.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 9, 2017 20:16:55 GMT -5
I fixed that for you. I gladly cheer for every dollar Boras earns for his clients, which only come at the expense of owners' wallets. Root for the millionaires over the billionaires. I root for neither, I root for competence and professionalism. Which makes Boras even more awesome to me. You don't get to be as notorious as he is while doing a low key job if you're not really good. If he was a baseball player he'd be Mike Trout and frankly it's a shame he's not as celebrated.
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Nov 9, 2017 20:51:58 GMT -5
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Post by swingingbunt on Nov 9, 2017 20:51:58 GMT -5
I don't even begrudge Boras or the players he represents. They're simply taking advantage of the system that they all put in place to give the most benefit to the elite players and screw everyone else, just like everywhere else in life. Everyone would do the same, except Dustin Pedroia, David Ortiz and Jason Varitek. And on top of that, there is nothing more annoying than seeing players who don't belong in the majors making $20 million a year while guys in the minors have to eat ramen noodles and sleep on mattresses older than they are if they're not sleeping on the floor. While some of the minor league rules need adjusting, like 25 dollars for food per day. They don't have to eat ramen noodles everyday either. They should be paid for spring training and always have a place to stay paid for by the team. Even if it's a one star type place. I would love to see them basically double the current rates on top of that. At the same time the lawsuit demanding a living wage of like 45,000 to 60,000 a year is crazy in my opinion. The idea of a living wage is basically dead in this Country and I see no reason why minor leaguers should get one for 6 months of playing a game. Nevermind look at the money given out in the draft and international market. In no way are all minor leaguers equal. 17 players taken in the draft got over a $100,000. When you average that out over the average minor league career the numbers look a lot better. Some got a lot more. While only 8 players got $5,000 or less out of 43 players. Then if you make the majors you move into the what top 10% income bracket in this Country even if you make the minimum. It's really hard to feel bad for players getting paid to play a game. You're not the first person to demean players by referring to what they do as only "a game," but you should at least be honest about it. From when players report to spring training to their last game, it is already much longer than 6 months, and that doesn't even mention that in order to hone your craft enough to make real money, player's have to put in a full year of work. While firmly standing in my soap-box, I'll just add that the quality of baseball is dependent on prospects incrementally increaseing their skills when they increase levels in an organization. Baseball needs as many warm bodies in all minor league levels as possible in order to maxmize the potential of the players who will one day be stars. Up until now baseball has gotten away with the low levels being glorified sweat shops (minus the one or two people on each team who actually got a signing bonus), but luckily Boras, and a few other people in the industry are starting to shed light on the inequity of the situation. While you say that a living wage is "dead," (I don't agree with that but this isn't the place to discuss it), the truth is that without the minor leagues the entire sport is dead. And if players are that important to the sport (and they are) then they should be paid like it.
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Nov 9, 2017 21:33:39 GMT -5
Post by johnsilver52 on Nov 9, 2017 21:33:39 GMT -5
On that minor league players salary and food comment above..
I remember a certain long ago former milb and later mlb player who had a difficult time getting his bonus from Boston in the 70's. A really good friend at the time also for several years.
Players trading off discount food coupons, like buy 1 get 1 free for a ride somewhere to guys who had cars since few at the time had one. At least 3.. Sometimes 4 shacking up in 2-3 BR apartments.
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Nov 9, 2017 21:34:12 GMT -5
Post by TearsIn04 on Nov 9, 2017 21:34:12 GMT -5
I've always thought that if a handful of teams - let's say the RS, MFY, Dodgers and maybe the Cubs - shut Boras out, it would put a big dent in his ability to command top dollar.
But I also wonder whether anyone has looked at whether he gets more for his players than other agents or whether he's just a great self-promoter. He makes outrageous initial demands and puts together books that tout each player like he's Willie Mays, but is he actually getting more $$$ per WAR than other agents? I mean we see ridiculous contracts given out every year and he's not representing all these guys.
SSS and unscientific, but if you look at the worst RS contracts of the last seven or eight years, were any of them with Boras clients? I'm thinking Crawford, Hanley, Panda, Beckett, possibly Price and maybe a couple of others.
Pedro signed with the RS for market-setting money before the 1998 season. Not a Boras client. Manny Ramirez signed with us for what was huge money at the time. Not a Boras client. Ditto for Adrian Gonzalez.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Nov 9, 2017 21:43:20 GMT -5
I fixed that for you. I gladly cheer for every dollar Boras earns for his clients, which only come at the expense of owners' wallets. Root for the millionaires over the billionaires. Maybe, maybe not. One economic theory - espoused by Marvin Miller and others - is that a company is going to charge whatever it can command for its goods or services, regardless of what its expenses are. That nice 16-ounce Sam Adams draft might cost the bar only $2 because the bar buys large quantities of beer. But if the bar can get you to pay $7 for it, that's what you're going to pay. If you'll pay $8, then the bar will charge you $8, even if the bar's costs to purchase the beer and pay the bartender haven't gone up. Other economists say that of course if wages go up, a business is going to charge customers more to cover its costs. That's the argument righties often make when they're trying to stop an increase in the minimum wage. There's no question that the costs of BB tickets, broadcast rights and sponsorships have risen tremendously since player salaries began spiraling upward with the advent of free agency. Whether there's a cause-effect there is open to argument.
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Nov 9, 2017 22:33:39 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 9, 2017 22:33:39 GMT -5
While some of the minor league rules need adjusting, like 25 dollars for food per day. They don't have to eat ramen noodles everyday either. They should be paid for spring training and always have a place to stay paid for by the team. Even if it's a one star type place. I would love to see them basically double the current rates on top of that. At the same time the lawsuit demanding a living wage of like 45,000 to 60,000 a year is crazy in my opinion. The idea of a living wage is basically dead in this Country and I see no reason why minor leaguers should get one for 6 months of playing a game. Nevermind look at the money given out in the draft and international market. In no way are all minor leaguers equal. 17 players taken in the draft got over a $100,000. When you average that out over the average minor league career the numbers look a lot better. Some got a lot more. While only 8 players got $5,000 or less out of 43 players. Then if you make the majors you move into the what top 10% income bracket in this Country even if you make the minimum. It's really hard to feel bad for players getting paid to play a game. You're not the first person to demean players by referring to what they do as only "a game," but you should at least be honest about it. From when players report to spring training to their last game, it is already much longer than 6 months, and that doesn't even mention that in order to hone your craft enough to make real money, player's have to put in a full year of work. While firmly standing in my soap-box, I'll just add that the quality of baseball is dependent on prospects incrementally increaseing their skills when they increase levels in an organization. Baseball needs as many warm bodies in all minor league levels as possible in order to maxmize the potential of the players who will one day be stars. Up until now baseball has gotten away with the low levels being glorified sweat shops (minus the one or two people on each team who actually got a signing bonus), but luckily Boras, and a few other people in the industry are starting to shed light on the inequity of the situation. While you say that a living wage is "dead," (I don't agree with that but this isn't the place to discuss it), the truth is that without the minor leagues the entire sport is dead. And if players are that important to the sport (and they are) then they should be paid like it. It is a game though. I favor increasing pay, but to what levels? You can't debate that a living wage is just about dead, that's a fact. There's a reason why both parents work now a days, they have to. From a Baseball point of view the system has worked. Teams aren't struggling to find players to fill out their farm systems. Now no player shouldn't have a place to sleep or enough money to buy food. At the same time I see no reason why they need to be living the American dream while playing a game. I am honest about it, you do realize the lower minors play a lot fewer games right? They don't play 162 games like the pro's do. Ton's of people work full-time while training for sports like wrestling and mixed martial arts. One or two on each team who actually got a bonus? Out of the 43 players we signed from the draft 17 got over a $100,000, only 8 got $5,000 or less, with the rest some where in between the two. It's more like one of two guys for each draft class have made over a million before even playing their first game in the minors. The top talent gets more and the fringe guys get almost nothing. The guys that the Red Sox feel are important to the teams future are getting paid though. The Red Sox future is going to come from those 17 guys that got paid, not the 8 guys that got almost nothing. I know every now and than one of those low guys will surprise people, just not that often. It's nothing like sweat shops, which is almost always a persons only way to make a living. This is a game, If a player wants to make steady money go get a regular job. Also the 10 years guys that play in the minors and make no money is fairly rare. Most of the fringe guys have rather short careers.
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Nov 10, 2017 0:11:49 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 10, 2017 0:11:49 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 10, 2017 7:10:05 GMT -5
If my kid threw 97, Boras would be the first guy I'd call. Some of you will agree with me. Others are liars. And if your kid was just an average minor league player, you'd still be supporting him. I mean of course everyone wants max money. It's just that the way it's setup is stupid and there's no harm in pointing that out. Boras is the best at revealing just how stupid it is. Cheering for someone to make $100 million instead of $200 million is hardly some outrageous behavior that is being equated to cheering for workers to be exploited by their greedy billionaire owners while the other 99% of baseball players have to go get real jobs after they're done playing baseball with no resume to work with. This Boras is the champion of the working class narrative is ridiculous.
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Nov 10, 2017 7:20:14 GMT -5
Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 10, 2017 7:20:14 GMT -5
If my kid threw 97, Boras would be the first guy I'd call. Some of you will agree with me. Others are liars. And if your kid was just an average minor league player, you'd still be supporting him. I mean of course everyone wants max money. It's just that the way it's setup is stupid and there's no harm in pointing that out. Boras is the best at revealing just how stupid it is. Cheering for someone to make $100 million instead of $200 million is hardly some outrageous behavior that is being equated to cheering for workers to be exploited by their greedy billionaire owners while the other 99% of baseball players have to go get real jobs after they're done playing baseball with no resume to work with.
This Boras is the champion of the working class narrative is ridiculous. Well said, yet again!
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Nov 10, 2017 8:43:38 GMT -5
Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 10, 2017 8:43:38 GMT -5
If my kid threw 97, Boras would be the first guy I'd call. Some of you will agree with me. Others are liars. And if your kid was just an average minor league player, you'd still be supporting him. I mean of course everyone wants max money. It's just that the way it's setup is stupid and there's no harm in pointing that out. Boras is the best at revealing just how stupid it is. Cheering for someone to make $100 million instead of $200 million is hardly some outrageous behavior that is being equated to cheering for workers to be exploited by their greedy billionaire owners while the other 99% of baseball players have to go get real jobs after they're done playing baseball with no resume to work with. This Boras is the champion of the working class narrative is ridiculous. He's not a champion of the working class, I never said he was. He's an agent for highly skilled baseball players, and he is one of the very best at it. I don't have a problem with that, at all.
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Nov 10, 2017 8:44:57 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Nov 10, 2017 8:44:57 GMT -5
I don't even begrudge Boras or the players he represents. They're simply taking advantage of the system that they all put in place to give the most benefit to the elite players and screw everyone else, just like everywhere else in life. Everyone would do the same, except Dustin Pedroia, David Ortiz and Jason Varitek. And on top of that, there is nothing more annoying than seeing players who don't belong in the majors making $20 million a year while guys in the minors have to eat ramen noodles and sleep on mattresses older than they are if they're not sleeping on the floor. While some of the minor league rules need adjusting, like 25 dollars for food per day. They don't have to eat ramen noodles everyday either. They should be paid for spring training and always have a place to stay paid for by the team. Even if it's a one star type place. I would love to see them basically double the current rates on top of that. At the same time the lawsuit demanding a living wage of like 45,000 to 60,000 a year is crazy in my opinion. The idea of a living wage is basically dead in this Country and I see no reason why minor leaguers should get one for 6 months of playing a game. Nevermind look at the money given out in the draft and international market. In no way are all minor leaguers equal. 17 players taken in the draft got over a $100,000. When you average that out over the average minor league career the numbers look a lot better. Some got a lot more. While only 8 players got $5,000 or less out of 43 players. Then if you make the majors you move into the what top 10% income bracket in this Country even if you make the minimum. It's really hard to feel bad for players getting paid to play a game. It's way harder to feel bad for players getting paid $100 million instead of $200 million. That's the only point I was making. If you want to stick up for the 'working man', stick up for the right ones. The ones with 9 figure contracts are not them.
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