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Post by ramireja on May 15, 2016 16:50:05 GMT -5
"Neuro-scouting:" Enhanced dopamine response in the ventral striatum as he began writing a story about little Edward whose violin had been passed down from his recently deceased mother = 7 figure bonus
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Post by braziliansox on May 16, 2016 2:21:36 GMT -5
No way to draft another CF. Also he is too raw. You sound like Harold Reynolds, his shock when The Rockies drafted Rodgers, since "they have Tulo" was hilarious last year . Just draft BPA, whatever The position is.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 16, 2016 4:30:52 GMT -5
No way to draft another CF. Also he is too raw. You sound like Harold Reynolds, his shock when The Rockies drafted Rodgers, since "they have Tulo" was hilarious last year . Just draft BPA, whatever The position is. Trammell isn't BPA at all. Do you understand the pithcing is the strength of the draft as well as the organizational need?
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2016 5:39:04 GMT -5
Is pitching ever NOT an organizational need?
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Post by sox fan in nc on May 16, 2016 11:21:35 GMT -5
Is pitching ever NOT an organizational need? Not if your the Mets.
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Post by 0ap0 on May 16, 2016 11:36:17 GMT -5
Is pitching ever NOT an organizational need? The roster is more than half pitchers.
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Post by braziliansox on May 16, 2016 12:12:04 GMT -5
You sound like Harold Reynolds, his shock when The Rockies drafted Rodgers, since "they have Tulo" was hilarious last year . Just draft BPA, whatever The position is. Trammell isn't BPA at all. Do you understand the pithcing is the strength of the draft as well as the organizational need? I never said they should draft Trammell, I was Just responding to your "no way to draft another CF" argument flaws.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 16, 2016 12:19:07 GMT -5
In fairness, BA does have Trammell rated #14 overall. MLB.com has him rated #31.
That being said, the HS pitching is very strong this year. Braxton Garrett is the guy I hope falls to us, but we shall see.
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Post by nomar on May 16, 2016 12:22:03 GMT -5
Unless an extremely advanced college arm falls to us like a Nola, I'm fine with a HS arm as a few look enticing. BPA obviously still being the priority.
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Post by templeusox on May 16, 2016 12:36:55 GMT -5
Unless an extremely advanced college arm falls to us like a Nola, I'm fine with a HS arm as a few look enticing. BPA obviously still being the priority. I'm loving Eric Lauer right now. That would be a great pick.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 16, 2016 17:50:47 GMT -5
Unless an extremely advanced college arm falls to us like a Nola, I'm fine with a HS arm as a few look enticing. BPA obviously still being the priority. How did TBall work out?
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 16, 2016 18:07:56 GMT -5
Unless an extremely advanced college arm falls to us like a Nola, I'm fine with a HS arm as a few look enticing. BPA obviously still being the priority. How did TBall work out? I don't think Trey Ball would have been a top ten HS arm in this draft.
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Post by theolearyfactor on May 16, 2016 18:19:55 GMT -5
Unless an extremely advanced college arm falls to us like a Nola, I'm fine with a HS arm as a few look enticing. BPA obviously still being the priority. How did TBall work out? So because a high school pitcher we drafted in the first round hasn't lived up to expectations thus far we should avoid picking other high school arms in the first round altogether? Trey Ball comes from a cold weather state, we knew we were getting someone on the raw side. Don't use that to foreclose the option of picking a HS arm in the first round.
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Post by chavopepe2 on May 16, 2016 18:28:41 GMT -5
So because a high school pitcher we drafted in the first round hasn't lived up to expectations thus far we should avoid picking other high school arms in the first round altogether? Trey Ball comes from a cold weather state, we knew we were getting someone on the raw side. Don't use that to foreclose the option of picking a HS arm in the first round. Plus, we've had just about every other type of pick bomb too. Luckily Kolbrin Vitek didn't stop us from drafting Benintendi and Jason Place didn't keep us from drafting Blake Swihart. Just take the best guy available.
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Post by telson13 on May 16, 2016 18:34:18 GMT -5
I don't think Trey Ball would have been a top ten HS arm in this draft. Definitely not. Not to mention, by that reasoning we should never draft another pitcher after the Ken Brett "experiment." That's the sort of logic that kept Rain Man off of every airline but Quantus.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 16, 2016 19:08:51 GMT -5
So because a high school pitcher we drafted in the first round hasn't lived up to expectations thus far we should avoid picking other high school arms in the first round altogether? Trey Ball comes from a cold weather state, we knew we were getting someone on the raw side. Don't use that to foreclose the option of picking a HS arm in the first round. Plus, we've had just about every other type of pick bomb too. Luckily Kolbrin Vitek didn't stop us from drafting Benintendi and Jason Place didn't keep us from drafting Blake Swihart. Just take the best guy available. Spot on!
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 16, 2016 19:24:04 GMT -5
Trammell isn't BPA at all. Do you understand the pithcing is the strength of the draft as well as the organizational need? I never said they should draft Trammell, I was Just responding to your "no way to draft another CF" argument flaws. Trammell is not BPA. We have 3 young CFs who are JBJ, Betts, and Bennyball even after trading away Margot. Now what is the logic to use # 12 pick to draft very raw pure CF who is not BPA? Oh?
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Post by jchang on May 16, 2016 19:24:13 GMT -5
Tball is doing well this year. Shy of 22yr, in hi-A. Perhaps AA in 2nd half, AAA next year, and in 2018 on redsox rotation?
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Post by myleskennefick on May 16, 2016 19:26:59 GMT -5
I never said they should draft Trammell, I was Just responding to your "no way to draft another CF" argument flaws. Trammell is not BPA. We have 3 young CFs who are JBJ, Betts, and Bennyball even after trading away Margot. Now what is the logic to use # 12 pick to draft very raw pure CF who is not BPA? Oh? If the Red Sox draft Trammell despite organizational depth at CF, wouldn't that suggest he was the BPA on their board (assuming it wasn't an under slot deal)?
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Post by iakovos11 on May 16, 2016 19:51:30 GMT -5
I never said they should draft Trammell, I was Just responding to your "no way to draft another CF" argument flaws. Trammell is not BPA. We have 3 young CFs who are JBJ, Betts, and Bennyball even after trading away Margot. Now what is the logic to use # 12 pick to draft very raw pure CF who is not BPA? Oh? Because you draft the BPA. Maybe they can't resign Betts, Bradley, and Benny to extensions and they'll need reinforcements. That seems like a reasonable outcome - and a good reason to draft the BPA, even if he's an OF'r.
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Post by larrycook on May 16, 2016 22:39:50 GMT -5
I think Whitley is a guy that could one day become an all star pitcher.
He has to get all the peices moving in the same direction, but man, he has some serious potential.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 17, 2016 6:42:29 GMT -5
The Red Sox organization in general has seemingly had some issues developing pitchers in recent years. Thats more what scares me than the actual player we'd likely draft and lead me to hope more for another bat at 12, which they've been more successful with.
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Post by jimed14 on May 17, 2016 7:12:35 GMT -5
The Red Sox organization in general has seemingly had some issues developing pitchers in recent years. Thats more what scares me than the actual player we'd likely draft and lead me to hope more for another bat at 12, which they've been more successful with. They really need to fix this so they don't have to trade 5 prospects for a pitcher every time they need one who isn't 30+.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 17, 2016 8:40:21 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not sure what the issue is but i'd be happy with a nice bat. May have to resort to free agency/trades/dumpster diving a bit for pitching in the next few years.
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Post by telson13 on May 17, 2016 9:23:37 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not sure what the issue is but i'd be happy with a nice bat. May have to resort to free agency/trades/dumpster diving a bit for pitching in the next few years. Well, I hope (and believe, to an extent) that Owens and Johnson are in the JBJ2014 zone. Both may yet turn out to be useable, even solid or good players, but they're having trouble making the adjustments needed to move up. I think the Sox will go BPA, which I think will turn out to be a HS/prep arm, so you may be right about the timetable. They do have Espinoza and Kopech due around the time Price can opt out and Porcello's deal is up, so you may be right about the dumpster dive. At the same time, their positional depth (and young, accomplished positional depth it looks like) gives them a position of strength to deal from for young/untested or undervalued/struggling pitching. There just isn't much in the way of college arms, unless they get lucky on a 2nd-round flier (like, Hanson falls). I'm not sold at all on Jeffries or Jones, *especially* at 12.
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