|
Post by sammo420 on Aug 9, 2016 15:29:55 GMT -5
If they do make him available, we don't want him. Nobody comes even close to knowing him as well as the Twins do and they're giving up, you don't want him. I would 100% be interested in Buxton, especially if the Twins were giving up on him (which they are not). Right now he's doing a Jackie Bradley impression, mashing the minor leagues but struggling in the majors for his first two years while playing great defense. His minor league offensive profile is much better than what JBJ had as well. Seeing as he has options and a huge ceiling, there's not a team that wouldn't be interested in him. I should have clarified that I don't think the Twins are giving up yet. I do still believe that if a team somebody's been with for an extended period does eventually give up, then stay away. There are a few occasions where those guys pan out, but they're very few.
|
|
|
Post by telson13 on Aug 9, 2016 17:19:50 GMT -5
With Byron Buxton getting demoted yet again, does anyone think the Twins would make him available in a trade? And what might they get back? If they do make him available, we don't want him. Nobody comes even close to knowing him as well as the Twins do and they're giving up, you don't want him. Yeah, we didn't want David Ortiz either. The Twins *really* gave up on him. And I'm sure that the Brewers regretted taking Carlos Gomez off of the Twins' hands. The Twins are "giving up" on him exactly as much as the Sox "gave up" on JBJ. He has something like 450 PAs at age 22. He's got lots of development time left. The Twins stress a foot-planted, contact-oriented batting approach that doesn't work for some players. Buxton is supremely talented and might benefit a lot from a change of scenery, with a park and offensive approach more suited to his game.
|
|
|
Post by telson13 on Aug 9, 2016 17:37:46 GMT -5
With Moncada on the verge, would you trade JBJ for Buxton+Berrios? I think Buxton's (and Berrios, or James Paxton/Taijuan Walker; there are others) the type of player(s) the Sox need to target. I'd much prefer they not move JBJ, but Buxton is at a buy-low point. Doubt Shaw or Pomeranz gets it done.
FWIW, Paxton whiffed Trout four times (with a Zunino assist) the other day. Since he dropped his arm slot a little his velo is way up, and his stuff is generally nastier. He's got an injury history a mile long, but he's 27 and *averages* over 97 from the left. I'd have preferred him over Pomeranz.
|
|
|
Post by jimed14 on Aug 9, 2016 17:45:57 GMT -5
With Moncada on the verge, would you trade JBJ for Buxton+Berrios? I think Buxton's (and Berrios, or James Paxton/Taijuan Walker; there are others) the type of player(s) the Sox need to target. I'd much prefer they not move JBJ, but Buxton is at a buy-low point. Doubt Shaw or Pomeranz gets it done. FWIW, Paxton whiffed Trout four times (with a Zunino assist) the other day. Since he dropped his arm slot a little his velo is way up, and his stuff is generally nastier. He's got an injury history a mile long, but he's 27 and *averages* over 97 from the left. I'd have preferred him over Pomeranz. Paxton and Walker were never getting traded. I'm sure every team in baseball would want them.
|
|
|
Post by telson13 on Aug 9, 2016 18:19:02 GMT -5
With Moncada on the verge, would you trade JBJ for Buxton+Berrios? I think Buxton's (and Berrios, or James Paxton/Taijuan Walker; there are others) the type of player(s) the Sox need to target. I'd much prefer they not move JBJ, but Buxton is at a buy-low point. Doubt Shaw or Pomeranz gets it done. FWIW, Paxton whiffed Trout four times (with a Zunino assist) the other day. Since he dropped his arm slot a little his velo is way up, and his stuff is generally nastier. He's got an injury history a mile long, but he's 27 and *averages* over 97 from the left. I'd have preferred him over Pomeranz. Paxton and Walker were never getting traded. I'm sure every team in baseball would want them. Walker maybe not, but Paxton's kicked around quite a bit for three years. Probably not this year after his velocity was up (although he was still getting hit pretty hard). But last year, yes. And any player can be obtained, it's just a question of whether the asking price is worth it.
|
|
ericmvan
Veteran
Supposed to be working on something more important
Posts: 8,941
|
Post by ericmvan on Aug 10, 2016 2:30:20 GMT -5
Tigers in Seattle blow a 95.3% Win Probability (up 4-1 in the 8th with 2 out and a man on 1st) and go into extra innings, where they get a 90% WP, leading 5-4 with 1 out and nobody on in the bottom of the 15th ... and blow that when K-Rod gives up BB, 1B, 1B (plus error), SF.
It was apparently such a stunning defeat that it broke FG's Play Log update. They still have it 5-4 with 2 on, 26 minutes after the game ended.
And the O's lose to the A's by 1 run again. Welcome to West Coast fun, folks!
|
|
nomar
Veteran
Posts: 10,907
|
Post by nomar on Aug 10, 2016 8:28:24 GMT -5
La Stella is refusing to report to AAA for the Cubs. Likely demanding a trade or release. I'd take him in a second. Hill is only a rental and we could use a decent hitting 2B/3B type next year like Hill/La Stella.
|
|
|
Post by soxfanatic on Aug 10, 2016 8:56:59 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 12, 2016 21:15:11 GMT -5
|
|
nomar
Veteran
Posts: 10,907
|
Post by nomar on Aug 13, 2016 9:10:38 GMT -5
Papelbon requesting release. I know he's not doing too hot but I think I would give him a shot at this point. Our relievers have been so bad.
|
|
|
Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 13, 2016 12:13:04 GMT -5
Papelbon requesting release. I know he's not doing too hot but I think I would give him a shot at this point. Our relievers have been so bad. I'm not usually one to care about clubhouse stuff but I cannot think of anyone I'd want in the Red Sox clubhouse less than Jonathan Papelbon.
|
|
|
Post by grandsalami on Aug 14, 2016 15:22:00 GMT -5
Stanton out for the season.
|
|
nomar
Veteran
Posts: 10,907
|
Post by nomar on Aug 14, 2016 16:09:24 GMT -5
Stanton out for the season. Sad. Hope he moves to 1B or gets traded as a DH.
|
|
|
Post by amfox1 on Aug 14, 2016 17:12:44 GMT -5
Stanton out for the season. Sad. Hope he moves to 1B or gets traded as a DH. Stanton was hurt sliding into second base. Position switch wouldn't change it.
|
|
nomar
Veteran
Posts: 10,907
|
Post by nomar on Aug 14, 2016 17:48:28 GMT -5
Sad. Hope he moves to 1B or gets traded as a DH. Stanton was hurt sliding into second base. Position switch wouldn't change it. That's fair but it would still be less running and movement in general. A bit easier in the wear and tear department.
|
|
|
Post by theolearyfactor on Aug 15, 2016 11:06:40 GMT -5
Giancarlo has been in the bigs for 7 seasons now and has only played greater than 125 games twice. Why can't we, as baseball fans, have nice things? I don't want him to go down as one of baseball's "what-ifs" in terms of lost playing time.
|
|
|
Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 15, 2016 15:13:11 GMT -5
LAA DFA'ed Sean Coyle yesterday.
|
|
|
Post by bosox81 on Aug 15, 2016 15:16:45 GMT -5
Giancarlo has been in the bigs for 7 seasons now and has only played greater than 125 games twice. Why can't we, as baseball fans, have nice things? I don't want him to go down as one of baseball's "what-ifs" in terms of lost playing time. I still remember several people arguing that we should trade the farm for this guy because prospects bust and you should always get the "sure thing" if you can. Imagine how that would've turned out!
|
|
|
Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 15, 2016 21:57:17 GMT -5
Yankees took the Jays down, 1-0, so the Sox are one game behind Toronto and Baltimore, and NY is trying to fight its way into the conversation. We all need to strap in for the ride. The Division is turning into the madhouse it was predicted to be. This Boston team is young, but they can make their bones if they can hang in there - with Ortiz leading them on of course. One thing's for sure. It won't be boring.
|
|
|
Post by mattpicard on Aug 15, 2016 22:01:23 GMT -5
Rangers lose Shin-Soo Choo, likely for the season, with a fractured forearm on a HBP. Tough blow for the Rangers, and just a miserable season for Choo, who's had 4 DL trips, but hit decently when he could play. Rangers are probably going primarily with Profar/Mazara on the corners, but Beltran could move off DH more often with Gallo jumping into the picture.
|
|
|
Post by grandsalami on Aug 16, 2016 10:12:24 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by sammo420 on Aug 16, 2016 13:40:45 GMT -5
Giancarlo has been in the bigs for 7 seasons now and has only played greater than 125 games twice. Why can't we, as baseball fans, have nice things? I don't want him to go down as one of baseball's "what-ifs" in terms of lost playing time. I still remember several people arguing that we should trade the farm for this guy because prospects bust and you should always get the "sure thing" if you can. Imagine how that would've turned out! I remember when Lars Anderson was our Giancarlo Stanton. On a more serious note, I was pretty indifferent about the idea of trading for him, but the argument was he was the type of talent we needed to put us over the top and not the BS "sure thing" argument.
|
|
|
Post by bosox81 on Aug 16, 2016 16:33:17 GMT -5
I still remember several people arguing that we should trade the farm for this guy because prospects bust and you should always get the "sure thing" if you can. Imagine how that would've turned out! I remember when Lars Anderson was our Giancarlo Stanton. On a more serious note, I was pretty indifferent about the idea of trading for him, but the argument was he was the type of talent we needed to put us over the top and not the BS "sure thing" argument. No. Lars Anderson is our Steven Wright, thank you. And the more appropriate prospects to bring up would've been Xander, Barnes, Bradley, Chechinni, and Owens since those were the names being thrown around to trade for Stanton. Also, it was definitely the "sure thing" argument AND Stanton putting us over the top. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
|
|
|
Post by bosox81 on Aug 16, 2016 16:59:48 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by jimed14 on Aug 16, 2016 18:28:04 GMT -5
I still remember several people arguing that we should trade the farm for this guy because prospects bust and you should always get the "sure thing" if you can. Imagine how that would've turned out! I remember when Lars Anderson was our Giancarlo Stanton. On a more serious note, I was pretty indifferent about the idea of trading for him, but the argument was he was the type of talent we needed to put us over the top and not the BS "sure thing" argument. I remember when some suggested trading Mookie and Xander for Cliff Lee. Same argument.
|
|