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Post by grandsalami on Jun 27, 2016 22:32:00 GMT -5
“@peteabe: The #RedSox optioned Eduardo Rodriguez to Triple A after the game.”
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2016 23:00:59 GMT -5
“@peteabe: The #RedSox optioned Eduardo Rodriguez to Triple A after the game.” Noe Ramirez probably up for 4 days, then Wilkerson comes up. Go get 'em kid.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 27, 2016 23:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 27, 2016 23:58:45 GMT -5
What makes this Jersey eat pitchers up so bad?
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Post by nomar on Jun 28, 2016 7:17:41 GMT -5
Wilkerson needs to channel his inner Estrada/Bartolo.
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Post by sgfeer on Jun 28, 2016 8:06:56 GMT -5
Wilkerson needs to channel his inner Estrada/Bartolo. I'd settle for his inner Aaron Small.
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Post by trotfan on Jun 28, 2016 17:11:19 GMT -5
Why AAA ? Can he be sent to AA ? Erod is not even close At this point time to start over .
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Post by larrycook on Jun 28, 2016 17:15:53 GMT -5
I think Rodriguez has to get healthy first. Then we rework his mechanics and rebuild his confidence.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 28, 2016 17:16:35 GMT -5
Why AAA ? Can he be sent to AA ? Erod is not even close At this point time to start over. I'm perfectly willing to let the Sox' staff decide where he might work it out. Don't know that we have the expertise on the board to parse those decisions. I do know that he's not locating his pitches and the movement is off and on. I'll bet they have a workplan for him.
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Post by pedey on Dec 6, 2016 17:59:15 GMT -5
Are we going to have another thread like this come April simply because we now have 7 starters (Sale, Porcello, Price, Wright, Rodriguez, Buchholz, Pomeranz) and Rodriguez is the only one with options, plus being the youngest? Rodriguez needs to start in the major leagues. Nothing to prove in AAA. He has shown flashes of dominance. He posted a 3.30 ERA after being recalled last year.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 6, 2016 18:08:45 GMT -5
Are we going to have another thread like this come April simply because we now have 7 starters (Sale, Porcello, Price, Wright, Rodriguez, Buchholz, Pomeranz) and Rodriguez is the only one with options, plus being the youngest? Rodriguez needs to start in the major leagues. Nothing to prove in AAA. He has shown flashes of dominance. He posted a 3.30 ERA after being recalled last year. Lots of offseason left. Don't start complaining about the roster until they're done. I have to imagine a starter or two is traded to replenish prospects.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 6, 2016 18:57:44 GMT -5
Are we going to have another thread like this come April simply because we now have 7 starters (Sale, Porcello, Price, Wright, Rodriguez, Buchholz, Pomeranz) and Rodriguez is the only one with options, plus being the youngest? Rodriguez needs to start in the major leagues. Nothing to prove in AAA. He has shown flashes of dominance. He posted a 3.30 ERA after being recalled last year. Lots of offseason left. Don't start complaining about the roster until they're done. I have to imagine a starter or two is traded to replenish prospects. It shouldn't be Eduardo Rodriguez that's traded. It should be Buchholz if anything to clear salary to stay under the tax threshold. Eduardo should be optioned down to AAA this year to limit innings to start the season and to save starting pitching depth.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 6, 2016 18:59:25 GMT -5
Are we going to have another thread like this come April simply because we now have 7 starters (Sale, Porcello, Price, Wright, Rodriguez, Buchholz, Pomeranz) and Rodriguez is the only one with options, plus being the youngest? Rodriguez needs to start in the major leagues. Nothing to prove in AAA. He has shown flashes of dominance. He posted a 3.30 ERA after being recalled last year. AAA limits his innings, usually injuries sorts these things out anyways.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Dec 6, 2016 20:50:52 GMT -5
E-Rod is our 4th best starter. I think he should be left out of any AAA speculation
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Post by larrycook on Dec 6, 2016 21:15:44 GMT -5
Rodriguez must be untouchable.
This kid is on the verge of figuring it out and when he does, he has the potential to be the next sale!
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Post by telluricrook on Dec 6, 2016 21:49:51 GMT -5
Why AAA to limit his innings? That's a waste of innings. Start him off in Fort Myers and let Buchholz get off to his usual good starts and trade him for the prospects and Erod should be fresh for the rest of the season and postseason. Does that make sense to anyone?
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 7, 2016 23:33:00 GMT -5
Rodriguez must be untouchable. This kid is on the verge of figuring it out and when he does, he has the potential to be the next sale! Maybe not untouchable but a "knock your socks off" type of trade is the only one I'd consider. DD mentioned today that, with seven starters on the roster one or more could be moved. While E-Rod would bring the best return I hope he's not swayed by offers. Eduardo should be our fourth starter and a fixture in the rotation going forward.
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Post by larrycook on Dec 7, 2016 23:38:58 GMT -5
Rodriguez must be untouchable. This kid is on the verge of figuring it out and when he does, he has the potential to be the next sale! Maybe not untouchable but a "knock your socks off" type of trade is the only one I'd consider. DD mentioned today that, with seven starters on the roster one or more could be moved. While E-Rod would bring the best return I hope he's not swayed by offers. Eduardo should be our fourth starter and a fixture in the rotation going forward. My biggest fear is that neither Buchholz, wright or Pomeranz generate any excitement from the other teams and we end up trading Rodriguez for pennies on the dollar.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 7, 2016 23:44:02 GMT -5
Maybe not untouchable but a "knock your socks off" type of trade is the only one I'd consider. DD mentioned today that, with seven starters on the roster one or more could be moved. While E-Rod would bring the best return I hope he's not swayed by offers. Eduardo should be our fourth starter and a fixture in the rotation going forward. My biggest fear is that neither Buchholz, wright or Pomeranz generate any excitement from the other teams and we end up trading Rodriguez for pennies on the dollar. DD doesn't care about restocking our system! He keeps adding to team, and keeping our good young major league players. I just don't see him trading ERod or Pomeranz. Buchholz is the guy he'll trade for pennies on the dollar just to clear his salary. I could see him maybe thinking he's selling high on Wright, if another team really wants him.
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Post by larrycook on Dec 7, 2016 23:52:14 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that neither Buchholz, wright or Pomeranz generate any excitement from the other teams and we end up trading Rodriguez for pennies on the dollar. DD doesn't care about restocking our system! He keeps adding to team, and keeping our good young major league players. I just don't see him trading ERod or Pomeranz. Buchholz is the guy he'll trade for pennies on the dollar just to clear his salary. I could see him maybe thinking he's selling high on Wright, if another team really wants him. I am hoping you are correct! If Rodriguez puts it all together, he could have a break out year. Nothing wrong with 4 top of the rotation guys on one team!
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 8, 2016 0:10:35 GMT -5
Maybe not untouchable but a "knock your socks off" type of trade is the only one I'd consider. DD mentioned today that, with seven starters on the roster one or more could be moved. While E-Rod would bring the best return I hope he's not swayed by offers. Eduardo should be our fourth starter and a fixture in the rotation going forward. My biggest fear is that neither Buchholz, wright or Pomeranz generate any excitement from the other teams and we end up trading Rodriguez for pennies on the dollar. Dombrowski should be in a position of strength when dealing with trade of a starting pitcher. This is a bad year for free agents with Hill and Nova the best of a poor lot. So he should be in no hurry to trade Buchholz, for example, as desperate teams will come a knockin' as their options diminish in the offseason.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2016 1:55:38 GMT -5
E-Rod is our 4th best starter. I think he should be left out of any AAA speculation This is debatable that he's the fourth best starter if all 3 are healthy. Wright was more effective at least until his injury, it's a toss up between Pomeranz and Eduardo when both are going good.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2016 1:59:04 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that neither Buchholz, wright or Pomeranz generate any excitement from the other teams and we end up trading Rodriguez for pennies on the dollar. Dombrowski should be in a position of strength when dealing with trade of a starting pitcher. This is a bad year for free agents with Hill and Nova the best of a poor lot. So he should be in no hurry to trade Buchholz, for example, as desperate teams will come a knockin' as their options diminish in the offseason. They need to trade Buchholz soon for CBT reasons if they want to stay under the tax threshold this year.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 8, 2016 7:32:40 GMT -5
Dombrowski should be in a position of strength when dealing with trade of a starting pitcher. This is a bad year for free agents with Hill and Nova the best of a poor lot. So he should be in no hurry to trade Buchholz, for example, as desperate teams will come a knockin' as their options diminish in the offseason. They need to trade Buchholz soon for CBT reasons if they want to stay under the tax threshold this year. That is not true. CBT calculations are based on what is paid in salary which doesn't begin until the season starts, pro-rated for each day of the season.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2016 8:44:33 GMT -5
They need to trade Buchholz soon for CBT reasons if they want to stay under the tax threshold this year. That is not true. CBT calculations are based on what is paid in salary which doesn't begin until the season starts, pro-rated for each day of the season. I saw on another thread pointed out by Jmie and a Speier article that the Sox were approximately 12.5 million under the tax threshold when the off-season began. Chris Sale cost 6.5 million in the CBT this year. Moreland is about 5.5 million. Tyler Thornburg will cost about 2.5 million this year. This means they are already 2-3 million over the CBT. Clay Buchholz will cost this team even more each day he spends on this roster this season. He's the most expensive piece on a short term deal that is the most expendable.
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