Daren Willman @darenw 7m7 minutes ago Yoan Moncado had a top speed of 21.2 MPH on his steal... That's moving.
JJ Cooper @jjcoop36 8m8 minutes ago San Diego, CA Yoan Moncada is fun on the basepaths. Steals second, goes to third on throwing error. Since July 1, 2015 Moncada is 80-of-91 on SBs.
Even world-class sprinters have only reached about 95% of peak velocity at 27 meters (30 yards/90 feet). 21.2 mph is 9.5 meters/second. World-class at 27 meters is 11 m/s. While that difference may seem like a good amount, those guys reach max velocity *very* quickly. Moncada's top speed is probably an 11 second 100m, which is pretty quick.
This is all very helpful, but isn't it also relevant that world class sprinters these days do not run on dirt wearing long pants and a helmet?
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Even world-class sprinters have only reached about 95% of peak velocity at 27 meters (30 yards/90 feet). 21.2 mph is 9.5 meters/second. World-class at 27 meters is 11 m/s. While that difference may seem like a good amount, those guys reach max velocity *very* quickly. Moncada's top speed is probably an 11 second 100m, which is pretty quick.
This is all very helpful, but isn't it also relevant that world class sprinters these days do not run on dirt wearing long pants and a helmet?
It's probably more relevant that sprinters start from blocks which feels like it gives an advantage in the first few steps of the race and acceleration. But maybe telson was giving numbers without the blocks, or maybe they don't actually help much I'm not sure.
Just looking at the right field corner railing catch by Jimenez. Notice who is close to Jimenez as he nearly goes over the railing? And he's slowed to a jog as he enters the frame.
Even world-class sprinters have only reached about 95% of peak velocity at 27 meters (30 yards/90 feet). 21.2 mph is 9.5 meters/second. World-class at 27 meters is 11 m/s. While that difference may seem like a good amount, those guys reach max velocity *very* quickly. Moncada's top speed is probably an 11 second 100m, which is pretty quick.
This is all very helpful, but isn't it also relevant that world class sprinters these days do not run on dirt wearing long pants and a helmet?
Sprinters also time workout programs so they hopefully peak at the time of the meet. Something baseball players can't do considering the meet is the entire season. I say any worthwhile comparison stops after top end speed.
Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 11, 2016 12:27:30 GMT -5
The information is very useful. He's not saying that Moncada is a sprinter. It's for comparison sake. Take what you all have laid out, that sprinters don't work on dirt, with helmets, that they have programs for working out, and so on. Despite all of those sprint-specific caveats, Moncada has a very good to exceptional ability to come up to speed. It's a qualitative, not a quantitative look at the guy, so please climb out of the weeds.
That was a good question about how that ball would play out in Fenway, ancient. Hard to know. The second deck looks as if it's about 20' to 25' above the field and he hit it a few rows back. Given the distance and the arc, I'd say high off the left-center wall, so probably a double.
That was a good question about how that ball would play out in Fenway, ancient. Hard to know. The second deck looks as if it's about 20' to 25' above the field and he hit it a few rows back. Given the distance and the arc, I'd say high off the left-center wall, so probably a double.
This link has video of the HR with the Stat Cast laser tracking, there is no doubt in my mind, that ball flies over the Monster. Somebody with better math skills than I, might be able to use the launch angle (24.5), exit speed (106.7mph) and distance (405ft) to prove it one way or the other. But the laser tracker is pretty definitive for me.
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The information is very useful. He's not saying that Moncada is a sprinter. It's for comparison sake. Take what you all have laid out, that sprinters don't work on dirt, with helmets, that they have programs for working out, and so on. Despite all of those sprint-specific caveats, Moncada has a very good to exceptional ability to come up to speed. It's a qualitative, not a quantitative look at the guy, so please climb out of the weeds.
Can I throw in one more interesting fun fact? World class powerlifters can beat world class sprinters over very short distances because they're so good at generating maximum force so quickly. After that they get absolutely smoked, but they get up to top speed a lot faster than sprinters do. Sprinters supposedly don't hit top speed til quite far into the race.
Actual book from a former track athlete and current strength and conditioning coach so I can't link the source.
Even world-class sprinters have only reached about 95% of peak velocity at 27 meters (30 yards/90 feet). 21.2 mph is 9.5 meters/second. World-class at 27 meters is 11 m/s. While that difference may seem like a good amount, those guys reach max velocity *very* quickly. Moncada's top speed is probably an 11 second 100m, which is pretty quick.
This is all very helpful, but isn't it also relevant that world class sprinters these days do not run on dirt wearing long pants and a helmet?
I figured anyone with a semblance of reason would figure that into the equation. Regardless, put him on a track and he's not coming close to 11 m/s. But for a baseball player, it's still *very* fast.
Edit: Actually, I gave his 100m equivalent taking that into account. 11 seconds flat is an outstanding time for anyone, let alone someone whose athletic pursuits are not dedicated solely to running.
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Also remember that sprinters do not have to immediately decelerate as would a base runner going from first to second. They are running 60 meters indoors and 100 meters outdoors through the finish line. Moncada was running a 30-yard sprint and had to decelerate to a dead stop at the end of the sprint (second base).
Also remember that sprinters do not have to immediately decelerate as would a base runner going from first to second. They are running 60 meters indoors and 100 meters outdoors through the finish line. Moncada was running a 30-yard sprint and had to decelerate to a dead stop at the end of the sprint (second base).
And baseball cleats ain't track shoes, but I think the analysis was based on his top speed (which may not actually be his top speed for all the reason mentioned in this thread) not his time for 30 yards. After all he did decelerate to stop at second, but he also had a lead of of first so not really 30 yards.