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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 25, 2016 6:29:29 GMT -5
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Post by Costigan on Aug 25, 2016 12:25:45 GMT -5
Kyle Hart is having a nice start to his professional career. 3 starts, 8 2/3 innings, 0 earned runs and 14 ks. 5 year starter who missed a year due to TJ.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 25, 2016 13:27:38 GMT -5
Kyle Hart is having a nice start to his professional career. 3 starts, 8 2/3 innings, 0 earned runs and 14 ks. 5 year starter who missed a year due to TJ. True, but fwiw, college pitchers should crush the GCL, never mind seniors. |
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Post by Costigan on Aug 25, 2016 13:34:20 GMT -5
Kyle Hart is having a nice start to his professional career. 3 starts, 8 2/3 innings, 0 earned runs and 14 ks. 5 year starter who missed a year due to TJ. True, but fwiw, college pitchers should crush the GCL, never mind seniors. Oh I know, just figured I'd mention it. |
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Post by bnich on Aug 25, 2016 18:32:14 GMT -5
Kyle Hart is having a nice start to his professional career. 3 starts, 8 2/3 innings, 0 earned runs and 14 ks. 5 year starter who missed a year due to TJ. Another tall lanky lefty, but this one with 4-5 years of college experience. As you said TJ surgery. One to keep an eye on. |
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Post by radiohix on Aug 25, 2016 19:11:03 GMT -5
From the early reports on Moncada's defense at 3rd, it looks like he could be really special down there.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Aug 25, 2016 19:15:28 GMT -5
From the early reports on Moncada's defense at 3rd, it looks like he could be really special down there. What does Moncada's defense at 3B have to do with how special he is "down there?" But seriously, given Shaw's difficulties the past few months, maybe the Sox ought to try bringing him up. Probably don't really have room before Sept. 1, though I guess they could bring him up the day before and slog their way with a short bench or short staff for one game. The problem may be that if Shaw was PO'd and complaining about not getting full playing time, we know how he'd feel about this. I'd note that Dalbec starts tonight's game with 2 BB. Maybe they're just going to pitch around him now? |
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Post by Costigan on Aug 25, 2016 19:26:14 GMT -5
Dubon just cleaned out a hanging breaking ball for a HR to left. Really put good contact on it.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 25, 2016 19:28:24 GMT -5
Mauricio Dubon has now 5 AA dingers!
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Post by Costigan on Aug 25, 2016 19:29:12 GMT -5
Dalbec is now 1-1 with a triple and two walks.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 25, 2016 19:33:19 GMT -5
From the early reports on Moncada's defense at 3rd, it looks like he could be really special down there. What does Moncada's defense at 3B have to do with how special he is "down there?" But seriously, given Shaw's difficulties the past few months, maybe the Sox ought to try bringing him up. Probably don't really have room before Sept. 1, though I guess they could bring him up the day before and slog their way with a short bench or short staff for one game. The problem may be that if Shaw was PO'd and complaining about not getting full playing time, we know how he'd feel about this. I'd note that Dalbec starts tonight's game with 2 BB. Maybe they're just going to pitch around him now? I wish they don't! He strikes out way too much (Over 30% in AA and already 2 Ks tonight). He needs to fix that (and it will take time) before promoting him to the bigs. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 25, 2016 19:34:05 GMT -5
From the early reports on Moncada's defense at 3rd, it looks like he could be really special down there. What does Moncada's defense at 3B have to do with how special he is "down there?" But seriously, given Shaw's difficulties the past few months, maybe the Sox ought to try bringing him up. Probably don't really have room before Sept. 1, though I guess they could bring him up the day before and slog their way with a short bench or short staff for one game. The problem may be that if Shaw was PO'd and complaining about not getting full playing time, we know how he'd feel about this. I'd note that Dalbec starts tonight's game with 2 BB. Maybe they're just going to pitch around him now? It would make no sense for the Sox to call him up the day before roster expansion because first time callups after expansion don't count towards a player's service time. That in turn means the Sox could wait 3 weeks next year before calling him up and get his entire age 28 season under control. If you are thinking so that he's eligible for the playoffs, that's not an issue. Any player on the DL for the playoffs (Smith, Swihart for example) can be replaced by any player on the 40 man. The Sox have one major advantage here, Sandy Leon. Since he's a good batter, it's unlikely the Sox will carry three catchers into the playoffs. That's pretty common when you have two catchers that can't hit. That allows for in game pinch hitting. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 25, 2016 20:08:05 GMT -5
Dalbec getting verrrry close to .400. 2/2 now.
Back on the 13th, Dalbec had an 0/4 4K game. Maybe, because of his college history, that was a wake up call. In the 8+ games since, only 2 Ks. Speculation of course, maybe they're not connected.
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Post by nomar on Aug 25, 2016 20:21:42 GMT -5
From the early reports on Moncada's defense at 3rd, it looks like he could be really special down there. What does Moncada's defense at 3B have to do with how special he is "down there?" He may actually be onto something. I'm a poor defensive third baseman and I'm nothing special down there. |
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Post by radiohix on Aug 25, 2016 20:23:25 GMT -5
Mauricio Dubon has now 5 AA dingers! Adds his 17th double for an OPS of .906 (1.061 OPS in August). |
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Post by joshv02 on Aug 25, 2016 20:33:23 GMT -5
It would make no sense for the Sox to call him up the day before roster expansion because first time callups after expansion don't count towards a player's service time. That in turn means the Sox could wait 3 weeks next year before calling him up and get his entire age 28 season under control. If you are thinking so that he's eligible for the playoffs, that's not an issue. Any player on the DL for the playoffs (Smith, Swihart for example) can be replaced by any player on the 40 man. The Sox have one major advantage here, Sandy Leon. Since he's a good batter, it's unlikely the Sox will carry three catchers into the playoffs. That's pretty common when you have two catchers that can't hit. That allows for in game pinch hitting. I believe they didn't burn an option if the brink hook up with less than ten days left in his season. This came up a few years ago, though I forget the player |
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Post by Costigan on Aug 25, 2016 20:44:55 GMT -5
Dubon has had a couple very erratic throws tonight.
Ysla with a K to end it for Portland, really animated dude.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 25, 2016 20:54:26 GMT -5
Jayce ( Daniel Nava II) Royce now up to .390 with 2 more hits tonight. He is at about 90 PA's at Salem now with another 45PA at Greenville, where he hit .378. When does it become not a short sample?
I realize he is way too old for this league, but is it possible the guy can just flat out hit? Does anyone have anything on his background?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 25, 2016 21:07:31 GMT -5
It would make no sense for the Sox to call him up the day before roster expansion because first time callups after expansion don't count towards a player's service time. That in turn means the Sox could wait 3 weeks next year before calling him up and get his entire age 28 season under control. If you are thinking so that he's eligible for the playoffs, that's not an issue. Any player on the DL for the playoffs (Smith, Swihart for example) can be replaced by any player on the 40 man. The Sox have one major advantage here, Sandy Leon. Since he's a good batter, it's unlikely the Sox will carry three catchers into the playoffs. That's pretty common when you have two catchers that can't hit. That allows for in game pinch hitting. I believe they didn't burn an option if the brink hook up with less than ten days left in his season. This came up a few years ago, though I forget the player It's not an option question, it's a service time question. Unless things have changed, players called up for roster expansion don't get service time. That in turn shortens the time that the Sox can call him up next year without accumulating a year's service time. He'd be a super-two but the Sox would still have the extra year of control. If the Sox called him up before roster expansion, they'd have to wait 30 or so days extra next year to bring him up. That's why historically, players called up before roster expansion, like Benintendi, almost always break camp with the big club and top prospects not called up before expansion almost never do. I don't believe that was changed in the last CBA but I could be wrong. ADD: A few years ago there were two plyers association complaints with a small difference. As minor leaguers, Polonco and Goldshmidt were offered long term contracts. Both declined. The players association filed complaints but only the Diamonbacks were forced into calling up Goldschmidt before the three weeks to save a years time. The difference in the two situations was that only Goldschmidt was offered a 25 man spot. Because of the wording, Goldshmidt ended up with a year's service time and Polonco (and Betts) weren't called up until after super two day. |
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 25, 2016 21:11:37 GMT -5
I just love Pennington, one of the steals of that years draft. Good things happen when you wait.
Please DD don't move this guy and def don't move Kopech and Groome.
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Post by jchang on Aug 25, 2016 21:12:31 GMT -5
Jayce ( Daniel Nava II) Royce now up to .390 with 2 more hits tonight. He is at about 90 PA's at Salem now with another 45PA at Greenville, where he hit .378. When does it become not a short sample? I realize he is way too old for this league, but is it possible the guy can just flat out hit? Does anyone have anything on his background? Don't forget the hbp, that really boosted Nava's obp in 13. |
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Post by jchang on Aug 25, 2016 21:17:26 GMT -5
I suppose the plan is for Kopech to pitch his next turn in the rotation, but then skip the one after that to start in the playoff?
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Post by joshv02 on Aug 25, 2016 21:27:22 GMT -5
I believe they didn't burn an option if the brink hook up with less than ten days left in his season. This came up a few years ago, though I forget the player It's not an option question, it's a service time question. Unless things have changed, players called up for roster expansion don't get service time. That in turn shortens the time that the Sox can call him up next year without accumulating a year's service time. He'd be a super-two but the Sox would still have the extra year of control. If the Sox called him up before roster expansion, they'd have to wait 30 or so days extra next year to bring him up. That's why historically, players called up before roster expansion, like Benintendi, almost always break camp with the big club and top prospects not called up before expansion almost never do. I don't believe that was changed in the last CBA but I could be wrong. ADD: A few years ago there were two plyers association complaints with a small difference. As minor leaguers, Polonco and Goldshmidt were offered long term contracts. Both declined. The players association filed complaints but only the Diamonbacks were forced into calling up Goldschmidt before the three weeks to save a years time. The difference in the two situations was that only Goldschmidt was offered a 25 man spot. Because of the wording, Goldshmidt ended up with a year's service time and Polonco (and Betts) weren't called up until after super two day. Right sorry that's what I meant. Same point |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 25, 2016 23:10:13 GMT -5
I don't believe that's correct (but can't say that I'm 100% sure), I think it's roster expansion as the cutoff. 10 days would mean that clubs would sometimes have players standing around after their regular AA and AAA seasons were over instead of collecting major league paychecks.
One of the service time gurus would likely know for sure unless that's you, lol.
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 26, 2016 0:56:15 GMT -5
I just love Pennington, one of the steals of that years draft. Good things happen when you wait. Please DD don't move this guy and def don't move Kopech and Groome. Well if they get traded we will get a good return. |
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