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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 16, 2017 17:09:29 GMT -5
I'm hoping Horford can step up in the playoffs and be more consistent, last night was great but I want to see more of that. I hope a lot of guys can be healthy and step up this year in the playoffs.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 17, 2017 19:59:52 GMT -5
For those of you unsure about giving Isaiah big money ... tonight is a nice preview of what the offense would look like without him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 18, 2017 8:39:10 GMT -5
If you added Fultz and someone from free agency, doesn't that make Isaah more expendable?
I'm all for keeping Isaah on this deal and letting him walk. Keeping him and Fultz (with Fultz coming off the bench for a year to get acclimated to the NBA).
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 18, 2017 9:08:55 GMT -5
I loved the win just as much as any win last night. Win without Isaah, gain a half game on Cleveland, and add to the Nets loss total. Awesome.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 18, 2017 13:50:50 GMT -5
If you let Isaiah walk on this contract then you've lost the asset. If you get Fultz and he's a scorer right away and you think he can replace Isaiah soon then you sick it up and trade Isaiah
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 18, 2017 14:03:41 GMT -5
If you let Isaiah walk on this contract then you've lost the asset. If you get Fultz and he's a scorer right away and you think he can replace Isaiah soon then you sick it up and trade Isaiah Yeah but you're making a good run at a title during that one year with Isaah. You're not getting much for Isaah on a rental contract anyways.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 18, 2017 14:09:13 GMT -5
We will see where they are next year but if they are making a good run at a title then you best be extending him.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 19, 2017 7:16:02 GMT -5
It looks like the Celts will have a legitimate shot at the 1st seed not that it really matters much but it does say something about the team. I will be looking forward to the 4/5 game vs Cleveland.
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Post by telluricrook on Mar 19, 2017 18:12:32 GMT -5
They should draft Josh Jackson!
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 19, 2017 22:39:44 GMT -5
It looks like the Celts will have a legitimate shot at the 1st seed not that it really matters much but it does say something about the team. I will be looking forward to the 4/5 game vs Cleveland. Honestly, I believe at this point they should be more worried about keeping up the 2nd seed.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 21, 2017 7:23:22 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Mar 22, 2017 10:38:24 GMT -5
Many of the top Draft Prospect Lists have reported in for March (Ford, DraftExpress, TSN and Bleacher Report) and a consensus is starting to build as we enter the Sweet 16. Note, NBA DraftNet seems to be down and NBA.com's Scott Howard-Cooper hasn't posted an update this month (David Aldridge is doing his positional breakdown). I've removed CBS bc a) the guy is new and I know nothing about his background and b) he's the outlier 10 of the top 15 prospects (and didn't even rank Jarrett Allen who seems to be a consensus top 20 guy).
- Fultz and Ball are 1 and 2 in all 4 cases - Jackson and Tatum are 3 and 4, respectively, with only TSN's Sam Vecenie (formerly at CBS) having them switched. - Smith, Fox, Monk, Isaac and Markkanen are all in the next grouping (all in the 5-10 range). - Ntilikina and Bridges are the next 2 (10 or 11 except for Vecenie who has Markkanen and Ntilikina at 10 and 9).
There really doesn't seem to be any crazy outliers through those 1st 11 (BR's Wasserman having Isaac at 5 when others have him 8 or 9 is probably the closest thing to an outlier).
A couple of other tidbits: - Surprised that Texas A&M Robert Williams returned to school. Seemed to be consensus lottery guy. - (Read no further WCP) Chad Ford heard from a GM that this draft has, potentially, 4 #1 caliber players (Fultz, Ball and Jackson for sure; Tatum possibly). - Unlike Fultz, Smith's lack of tourney presence could hurt him as he could get passed by Fox who is having a nice March (many reports but Wasserman is the latest to suggest this) - I'll be interested to see how the tiers break out. If you believe Ford's source, there will be 3 or 4 Tier 1's. The next tier (assuming Tatum's in the top) could either be that 5-10 grouping or it could expand to include Bridges and Ntilikina - Interested to see what happens to Giles. Doubt even the strongest of workouts can bring him back to where he was on the pre-season lists. He currently sits 13-27 but could get higher with better workouts. Maybe he stays 1 more year??? Probably not.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 22, 2017 15:17:11 GMT -5
Embiid likely headed for surgery again. Gotta feel for the guy. Great talent. Hopefully he will have a healthy and productive career.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 22, 2017 15:48:06 GMT -5
Lemme tell you guys about Chad Ford...
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Post by texs31 on Mar 22, 2017 16:17:58 GMT -5
Admittedly, he's not saying anything outlandish (or especially riveting).
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 23, 2017 4:43:50 GMT -5
I think according to Vegas, the Celtics have a 55 percent chance of the number 1 seed.
They have a real shot because they're one game back in the loss column and Cleveland has a tougher schedule. The Celtics also has a lot of home games left on the schedule.
At worst, the Celtics finish with the 2 seed. Just got to play out the schedule. Not a lot of tough opponents left on it. Everyone on the team seems really healthy too and they're playing well at the right time right now.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 23, 2017 6:20:08 GMT -5
It looks like the Celts will have a legitimate shot at the 1st seed not that it really matters much but it does say something about the team. I will be looking forward to the 4/5 game vs Cleveland. Honestly, I believe at this point they should be more worried about keeping up the 2nd seed. I don't think you took into consideration each teams remaining schedule. Celtics have far and away the easiest schedule and mostly home games. The #1 seed is a possible.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 23, 2017 9:15:32 GMT -5
I don't think you took into consideration each teams remaining schedule. Celtics have far and away the easiest schedule and mostly home games. The #1 seed is a possible. Yeah it's possible and the C's have looked way better since I posted that lol. The thing with this team is that they're so inconsistent that I can't see them climbing to the 1st seed, but it would definitely be awesome and the Cavs have also started to look fragile so yeah it's ON. I think I underrated their chances.
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Post by ianrs on Mar 23, 2017 18:34:44 GMT -5
Remember when people complained about Avery's 4 year/32 million dollar contract? Seems eons ago at this point. This team could legitimately get the number 1 seed and number 1 pick. What a year.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 24, 2017 6:57:28 GMT -5
I don't think you took into consideration each teams remaining schedule. Celtics have far and away the easiest schedule and mostly home games. The #1 seed is a possible. Yeah it's possible and the C's have looked way better since I posted that lol. The thing with this team is that they're so inconsistent that I can't see them climbing to the 1st seed, but it would definitely be awesome and the Cavs have also started to look fragile so yeah it's ON. I think I underrated their chances. Yes the C's have been inconsistent this year but have still won a lot of games. Can't overlook the fact the starting 5 haven't been on the court all that much this year, something like 25/30 games. I think they are capable of playing well in the playoffs if they get on a hot streak from 3, which they have done this year. They will also need to pick up the defensive intensity and collectively crash the boards. I do think this is the year they figure out the level of play in the playoffs requires more than they have given in the past few years.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 24, 2017 7:51:25 GMT -5
They picked up the defensive intensity about a month ago (not coincidentally, around when Bradley returned), but the rebounding remains a mystery from game to game.
When they're competent on the boards, they're almost a lock to win. Grande always posts the stat, but I think they're something like 22-2 when they're even or better on the glass.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 24, 2017 8:22:26 GMT -5
The Celtic starting 5 have only played 30 game together so far this season, the record is 23-7 in those games. That right there is reason to be optimistic in the playoffs, if they stay healthy they can make some noise.
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Post by jmei on Mar 24, 2017 8:53:05 GMT -5
The raw rebounds total stat is a little misleading. Even the worst rebounding team gets most of their defensive rebounds, which means that if the other team is missing a lot of shots, you're probably getting a lot of rebounds.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 24, 2017 9:46:59 GMT -5
Correct, but if the Celtics are around 20 games over .500 when they're even or better on the glass AND they're 20 games over .500 for the season, there's very likely a correlation.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 24, 2017 10:29:27 GMT -5
@jaredweissnba (CelticsBlog) says that he's spoken to a slew of FO people that say KO's top market value is around $13Mn. I know opinions are divided here on him but what do folks think?
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